Re: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading

2014-12-20 Thread Hoyer, Marko (ADITG/SW2)
Hi,

 -Original Message-
 From: systemd-devel [mailto:systemd-devel-
 boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
 Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:55 PM
 To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
 Subject: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading
 
 Hi,
 
 Is there a reason why systemd-modules-load is loading modules
 sequentially? Few things can happen simultaneously like resolving the
 symbols etc. Seems like modules_mutex is common on module loads which
 gets locked up on few occasions throughout the execution of
 sys_init_module.

We are actually doing this (in embedded systems which need to be up very fast 
with limited resources) and gained a lot. Mainly, IO and CPU can be better 
utilized by loading modules in parallel (one module is loaded while another one 
probes for hardware or is doing memory initialization).

 
 The other thought is, what is the preferred way of loading modules when
 they are needed. Do they have to be loaded on ExecStartPre= or as a
 separate service which has ExecStart that uses kmod to load them?
 Wouldn't it be useful to have something like ExecStartModule=?

I had such a discussion earlier with some of the systemd guys. My intention was 
to introduce an additional unit for module loading for exactly the reason you 
mentioned. The following (reasonable) outcome was:
- It is dangerous to load kernel modules from PID 1 since module loading can 
get stuck
- Since modules are actually loaded with the thread that calls the syscall, 
systemd would need additional threads
- Multi Threading is not really aimed in systemd for stability reasons
The probably safest way to do what you intended is to use an additional process 
to load your modules, which could be easily done by using ExecStartPre= in a 
service file. We are doing it exactly this way not with kmod but with a tool 
that loads modules in parallel.

Btw: Be careful with synchronization. We found that lots of kernel modules are 
exporting device nodes in the background (alsa, some graphics driver, ...). 
With the proceeding mentioned above, you are moving the kernel module loading 
and the actual use of the driver interface very close together in time. This 
might lead to race conditions. It is even worse when you need to access sys 
attributes, which are exported by some drivers even after the device is already 
available and uevents have been sent out. For such modules, there actually is 
no other way for synchronization but waiting for the attributes to appear.

 
 Umut
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[systemd-devel] [PATCH] man (5) machine-info: add hostnamed chassis type embedded

2014-12-20 Thread Peter Mattern
man machine-info lacks hostnamed chassis type embedded as introduced in 218. 
The following lines should fix this.

---
 man/machine-info.xml | 3 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/man/machine-info.xml b/man/machine-info.xml
index c654daa..9bf2bcb 100644
--- a/man/machine-info.xml
+++ b/man/machine-info.xml
@@ -139,7 +139,8 @@
 literalserver/literal,
 literaltablet/literal,
literalhandset/literal,
-   literalwatch/literal, as well as
+   literalwatch/literal and
+   literalembedded/literal as well as
 the special chassis types
 literalvm/literal and
 literalcontainer/literal for
-- 
2.2.1

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Re: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading

2014-12-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On 16 Dec 2014 17:21, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog u...@tezduyar.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
  u...@tezduyar.com wrote:
  The other thought is, what is the preferred way of loading modules
  when they are needed.
 
  Rely on kernel autoloading. Not all modules support that yet, but most
  do. What do you have in mind?

 We have some modules that we don't need them to be loaded so early. We
 much prefer them to be loaded when they are needed. For example we
 don't need to load the SD driver module until the service that uses SD
 driver is starting. With this idea in mind I started some
 investigation. Then I realized that our CPU utilization is not that
 high during module loading and I blame it to the sequential loading of
 modules. I am thinking this can be improved on systemd-modules-load
 side.

We can probably improve the module loading by making it use worker
processes similar to how udev works. In principle this could cause problems
with things making assumptions on the order of module loading, so that is
something to keep in mind. That said, note that most modules will be loaded
by udev which already does it in parallel...

  Do they have to be loaded on ExecStartPre= or as
  a separate service which has ExecStart that uses kmod to load them?
  Wouldn't it be useful to have something like ExecStartModule=?
 
  I'd much rather we improve the autoloading support...

 My understanding is autoloading support is loading a module if the
 hardware is available.

That, or for non-hardware modules when the functionally is first used
(networking, filesystems, ...).

 What I am after is though loading the module
 when they are needed.

This sounds really fragile to me (having to encode this dependency
everywhere rather than just always assume the functionality is available).

Cheers,

Tom
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[systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] verbs: allow matching by prefix

2014-12-20 Thread Dave Reisner
Be nice to command line users and allow matching prefixes of verbs,
similar to the way getopt_long operates. If the prefix cannot be
resolved to a singular verb, log the ambiguity and return an error.
---
I'm not thrilled about adding this to every manpage out of concern that it
might get out of sync, but I don't really see a better way.

 man/bootctl.xml|  3 ++-
 man/busctl.xml |  3 ++-
 man/coredumpctl.xml|  3 ++-
 man/hostnamectl.xml|  3 ++-
 man/kernel-install.xml |  3 ++-
 man/localectl.xml  |  3 ++-
 man/loginctl.xml   |  3 ++-
 man/systemctl.xml  |  3 ++-
 man/telinit.xml|  3 ++-
 src/shared/verbs.c | 58 ++
 src/test/test-verbs.c  |  9 
 11 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)

diff --git a/man/bootctl.xml b/man/bootctl.xml
index 5254022..93363bd 100644
--- a/man/bootctl.xml
+++ b/man/bootctl.xml
@@ -79,7 +79,8 @@
 xi:include href=standard-options.xml 
xpointer=version /
 /variablelist
 
-paraThe following commands are understood:/para
+paraCommands can be specified by exact match or unambiguous 
prefix match.
+The following commands are understood:/para
 
 variablelist
 varlistentry
diff --git a/man/busctl.xml b/man/busctl.xml
index 285725e..a215a7e 100644
--- a/man/busctl.xml
+++ b/man/busctl.xml
@@ -260,7 +260,8 @@ along with systemd; If not, see 
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/.
   refsect1
 titleCommands/title
 
-paraThe following commands are understood:/para
+paraCommands can be specified by exact match or unambiguous prefix match.
+The following commands are understood:/para
 
 variablelist
   varlistentry
diff --git a/man/coredumpctl.xml b/man/coredumpctl.xml
index ed84621..28cce85 100644
--- a/man/coredumpctl.xml
+++ b/man/coredumpctl.xml
@@ -111,7 +111,8 @@
 
 /variablelist
 
-paraThe following commands are understood:/para
+paraCommands can be specified by exact match or unambiguous 
prefix match.
+The following commands are understood:/para
 
 variablelist
 varlistentry
diff --git a/man/hostnamectl.xml b/man/hostnamectl.xml
index de15402..51cb995 100644
--- a/man/hostnamectl.xml
+++ b/man/hostnamectl.xml
@@ -135,7 +135,8 @@
 xi:include href=standard-options.xml 
xpointer=version /
 /variablelist
 
-paraThe following commands are understood:/para
+paraCommands can be specified by exact match or unambiguous 
prefix match.
+The following commands are understood:/para
 
 variablelist
 varlistentry
diff --git a/man/kernel-install.xml b/man/kernel-install.xml
index d4d0180..aa6aca2 100644
--- a/man/kernel-install.xml
+++ b/man/kernel-install.xml
@@ -79,7 +79,8 @@ along with systemd; If not, see 
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/.
 
   refsect1
 titleCommands/title
-paraThe following commands are understood:/para
+paraCommands can be specified by exact match or unambiguous prefix match.
+The following commands are understood:/para
 variablelist
   varlistentry
 termcommandadd replaceableKERNEL-VERSION/replaceable 
replaceableKERNEL-IMAGE/replaceable/command/term
diff --git a/man/localectl.xml b/man/localectl.xml
index b472b6b..8f5b442 100644
--- a/man/localectl.xml
+++ b/man/localectl.xml
@@ -113,7 +113,8 @@
 xi:include href=standard-options.xml 
xpointer=no-pager /
 /variablelist
 
-paraThe following commands are understood:/para
+paraCommands can be specified by exact match or unambiguous 
prefix match.
+The following commands are understood:/para
 
 variablelist
 varlistentry
diff --git a/man/loginctl.xml b/man/loginctl.xml
index 749db92..f2162ac 100644
--- a/man/loginctl.xml
+++ b/man/loginctl.xml
@@ -165,7 +165,8 @@
 xi:include href=standard-options.xml 
xpointer=no-pager /
 /variablelist
 
-paraThe following commands are understood:/para
+paraCommands can be specified by exact match or unambiguous 
prefix match.
+The following commands are understood:/para
 
 variablelist
 varlistentry
diff --git a/man/systemctl.xml b/man/systemctl.xml
index d1991e0..91fcba3 100644
--- a/man/systemctl.xml
+++ b/man/systemctl.xml
@@ -557,7 +557,8 @@ along with systemd; If not, see 
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/.
   refsect1
 titleCommands/title
 
-paraThe following commands are understood:/para
+paraCommands can be specified by exact match or unambiguous prefix match.
+The following commands are understood:/para
 
 

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] test-verbs: add unit tests for verbs minilib

2014-12-20 Thread Dave Reisner
---
 Makefile.am   |  9 +-
 src/test/test-verbs.c | 78 +++
 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
 create mode 100644 src/test/test-verbs.c

diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am
index baa1398..db7dd46 100644
--- a/Makefile.am
+++ b/Makefile.am
@@ -1384,7 +1384,8 @@ tests += \
test-locale-util \
test-execute \
test-copy \
-   test-cap-list
+   test-cap-list \
+   test-verbs
 
 EXTRA_DIST += \
test/a.service \
@@ -1651,6 +1652,12 @@ test_tmpfiles_LDADD = \
 test_namespace_SOURCES = \
src/test/test-namespace.c
 
+test_verbs_SOURCES = \
+   src/test/test-verbs.c
+
+test_verbs_LDADD = \
+   libsystemd-shared.la
+
 test_namespace_LDADD = \
libsystemd-core.la
 
diff --git a/src/test/test-verbs.c b/src/test/test-verbs.c
new file mode 100644
index 000..0fcdd9e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/test/test-verbs.c
@@ -0,0 +1,78 @@
+/***
+  This file is part of systemd.
+
+  Copyright 2014 systemd developers
+
+  systemd is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
+  under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by
+  the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or
+  (at your option) any later version.
+
+  systemd is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
+  WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+  MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
+  Lesser General Public License for more details.
+
+  You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public License
+  along with systemd; If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/.
+***/
+
+#include macro.h
+#include strv.h
+#include verbs.h
+
+static int noop_dispatcher(int argc, char *argv[], void *userdata) {
+return 0;
+}
+
+#define test_dispatch_one(argv, verbs, expected) \
+optind = 0; \
+assert_se(dispatch_verb(strv_length(argv), argv, verbs, NULL) == 
expected);
+
+static void test_verbs(void) {
+static const Verb verbs[] = {
+{ help,VERB_ANY, VERB_ANY, 0,
noop_dispatcher },
+{ list-images, VERB_ANY, 1,0,
noop_dispatcher },
+{ list,VERB_ANY, 2,VERB_DEFAULT, 
noop_dispatcher },
+{ status,  2,VERB_ANY, 0,
noop_dispatcher },
+{ show,VERB_ANY, VERB_ANY, 0,
noop_dispatcher },
+{ terminate,   2,VERB_ANY, 0,
noop_dispatcher },
+{ login,   2,2,0,
noop_dispatcher },
+{ copy-to, 3,4,0,
noop_dispatcher },
+{}
+};
+
+/* not found */
+test_dispatch_one(STRV_MAKE(command-not-found), verbs, -EINVAL);
+
+/* found */
+test_dispatch_one(STRV_MAKE(show), verbs, 0);
+
+/* found, too few args */
+test_dispatch_one(STRV_MAKE(copy-to, foo), verbs, -EINVAL);
+
+/* found, meets min args */
+test_dispatch_one(STRV_MAKE(status, foo, bar), verbs, 0);
+
+/* found, too many args */
+test_dispatch_one(STRV_MAKE(copy-to, foo, bar, baz, quux, 
qaax), verbs, -EINVAL);
+
+/* no verb, but a default is set */
+test_dispatch_one(STRV_MAKE_EMPTY, verbs, 0);
+}
+
+static void test_verbs_no_default(void) {
+static const Verb verbs[] = {
+{ help, VERB_ANY, VERB_ANY, 0, noop_dispatcher },
+{},
+};
+
+test_dispatch_one(STRV_MAKE(NULL), verbs, -EINVAL);
+}
+
+int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
+test_verbs();
+test_verbs_no_default();
+
+return 0;
+}
-- 
2.2.0
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Re: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading

2014-12-20 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:45:34AM +, Hoyer, Marko (ADITG/SW2) wrote:
 Hi,
 
  -Original Message-
  From: systemd-devel [mailto:systemd-devel-
  boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
  Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:55 PM
  To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
  Subject: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading
  
  Hi,
  
  Is there a reason why systemd-modules-load is loading modules
  sequentially? Few things can happen simultaneously like resolving the
  symbols etc. Seems like modules_mutex is common on module loads which
  gets locked up on few occasions throughout the execution of
  sys_init_module.
 
 We are actually doing this (in embedded systems which need to be up
 very fast with limited resources) and gained a lot. Mainly, IO and CPU
 can be better utilized by loading modules in parallel (one module is
 loaded while another one probes for hardware or is doing memory
 initialization).

If you have control over your kernel, why not just build the modules
into the kernel, then all of this isn't an issue at all and there is no
overhead of module loading?

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Re: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading

2014-12-20 Thread Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:45:34AM +, Hoyer, Marko (ADITG/SW2) wrote:
 Hi,

  -Original Message-
  From: systemd-devel [mailto:systemd-devel-
  boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
  Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:55 PM
  To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
  Subject: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading
 
  Hi,
 
  Is there a reason why systemd-modules-load is loading modules
  sequentially? Few things can happen simultaneously like resolving the
  symbols etc. Seems like modules_mutex is common on module loads which
  gets locked up on few occasions throughout the execution of
  sys_init_module.

 We are actually doing this (in embedded systems which need to be up
 very fast with limited resources) and gained a lot. Mainly, IO and CPU
 can be better utilized by loading modules in parallel (one module is
 loaded while another one probes for hardware or is doing memory
 initialization).

 If you have control over your kernel, why not just build the modules
 into the kernel, then all of this isn't an issue at all and there is no
 overhead of module loading?

For us, licenses are the problem.
Umut


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Re: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading

2014-12-20 Thread Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
Hi Marko,

Thank you very much for your feedback!

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Hoyer, Marko (ADITG/SW2)
mho...@de.adit-jv.com wrote:
 Hi,

 -Original Message-
 From: systemd-devel [mailto:systemd-devel-
 boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
 Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:55 PM
 To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
 Subject: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading

 Hi,

 Is there a reason why systemd-modules-load is loading modules
 sequentially? Few things can happen simultaneously like resolving the
 symbols etc. Seems like modules_mutex is common on module loads which
 gets locked up on few occasions throughout the execution of
 sys_init_module.

 We are actually doing this (in embedded systems which need to be up very fast 
 with limited resources) and gained a lot. Mainly, IO and CPU can be better 
 utilized by loading modules in parallel (one module is loaded while another 
 one probes for hardware or is doing memory initialization).


 The other thought is, what is the preferred way of loading modules when
 they are needed. Do they have to be loaded on ExecStartPre= or as a
 separate service which has ExecStart that uses kmod to load them?
 Wouldn't it be useful to have something like ExecStartModule=?

 I had such a discussion earlier with some of the systemd guys. My intention 
 was to introduce an additional unit for module loading for exactly the reason 
 you mentioned. The following (reasonable) outcome was:

Do you have links for the discussions, I cannot find them. systemd
already has a service that loads the modules.

 - It is dangerous to load kernel modules from PID 1 since module loading can 
 get stuck
 - Since modules are actually loaded with the thread that calls the syscall, 
 systemd would need additional threads
 - Multi Threading is not really aimed in systemd for stability reasons
 The probably safest way to do what you intended is to use an additional 
 process to load your modules, which could be easily done by using 
 ExecStartPre= in a service file. We are doing it exactly this way not with 
 kmod but with a tool that loads modules in parallel.

 Btw: Be careful with synchronization. We found that lots of kernel modules 
 are exporting device nodes in the background (alsa, some graphics driver, 
 ...). With the proceeding mentioned above, you are moving the kernel module 
 loading and the actual use of the driver interface very close together in 
 time. This might lead to race conditions. It is even worse when you need to 
 access sys attributes, which are exported by some drivers even after the 
 device is already available and uevents have been sent out. For such modules, 
 there actually is no other way for synchronization but waiting for the 
 attributes to appear.

We are aware of the potential complications and races. But good to be
reminded :)

Umut



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Re: [systemd-devel] How to create a systemd service?

2014-12-20 Thread Kai Krakow
jenia.ivlev jenia.iv...@gmail.com schrieb:

 I want to start synapse (its a program that allows to run programs more
 easily) at login using systemd. So I created this systemd-service config
 file:
 
 [Unit]
 Description=Syanpse start up
 After=lxdm.service
 
 [Service]
 User=jenia
 ExecStart=/usr/bin/synapse
 
 [Install]
 WantedBy=multi-user.target
 
 I doesnt work neither automatically, nor by calling
 /usr/lib/systemd/system/synapse.service as so:
 systemctl start synapse
 
 It tells me:
 
 ● synapse.service - Syanpse start up
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/synapse.service; enabled)
Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Tue 2014-12-16 21:23:11
EST; 8min ago
   Process: 8545 ExecStart=/usr/bin/synapse (code=exited,
   status=1/FAILURE)
  Main PID: 8545 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
 
 Dec 16 21:23:11 station1 systemd[1]: Started Syanpse start up.
 Dec 16 21:23:11 station1 synapse[8545]: [02:23:11.039206 Info]
 Starting up... Dec 16 21:23:11 station1 synapse[8545]:
 [02:23:11.040620 Gtk-Warning] cannot open display: Dec 16 21:23:11
 station1 systemd[1]: synapse.service: main process exited,
 code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Dec 16 21:23:11 station1 systemd[1]:
 Unit synapse.service entered failed state. Dec 16 21:23:11 station1
 systemd[1]: synapse.service failed.

The error say cannot open display.

 How do I make this work, can someone please tell me?

You cannot run synapse as a system service. It's an X client which needs 
access to your X session after you logged in. I'm not sure if it could be 
solved by using systemd in --user mode but probably at least not now. 
There are afforts to use systemd in user mode to spawn the xsession of the 
user and use it as session manager, i.e. in KDE. But currently this does not 
work well enough to not be complicated.

So I suggest sticking synapse into your session autostart like so (as a 
user, not root):

$ ln -snf $(which synapse) $HOME/.config/autostart/

Then logout and in again.

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Re: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading

2014-12-20 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 06:40:49PM +0100, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:45:34AM +, Hoyer, Marko (ADITG/SW2) wrote:
  Hi,
 
   -Original Message-
   From: systemd-devel [mailto:systemd-devel-
   boun...@lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
   Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:55 PM
   To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
   Subject: [systemd-devel] Improving module loading
  
   Hi,
  
   Is there a reason why systemd-modules-load is loading modules
   sequentially? Few things can happen simultaneously like resolving the
   symbols etc. Seems like modules_mutex is common on module loads which
   gets locked up on few occasions throughout the execution of
   sys_init_module.
 
  We are actually doing this (in embedded systems which need to be up
  very fast with limited resources) and gained a lot. Mainly, IO and CPU
  can be better utilized by loading modules in parallel (one module is
  loaded while another one probes for hardware or is doing memory
  initialization).
 
  If you have control over your kernel, why not just build the modules
  into the kernel, then all of this isn't an issue at all and there is no
  overhead of module loading?
 
 For us, licenses are the problem.

Then you are on your own, and be prepared to deal with the legal issues
involved.

No sympathy here.

greg k-h
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Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] test-verbs: add unit tests for verbs minilib

2014-12-20 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Dave Reisner dreis...@archlinux.org wrote:
 ---
  Makefile.am   |  9 +-
  src/test/test-verbs.c | 78 
 +++
  2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
  create mode 100644 src/test/test-verbs.c

 diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am
 index baa1398..db7dd46 100644
 --- a/Makefile.am
 +++ b/Makefile.am
 @@ -1384,7 +1384,8 @@ tests += \
 test-locale-util \
 test-execute \
 test-copy \
 -   test-cap-list
 +   test-cap-list \
 +   test-verbs

Make sure you also add /test-verbs to the top level .gitignore.

Cheers,
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