Re: [systemd-devel] Removing unnecessary includes

2015-02-22 Thread Thomas H.P. Andersen
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen pho...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: On Sat, 07.02.15 10:29, Thomas H.P. Andersen (pho...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, I am looking at ways to automatically trim the

Re: [systemd-devel] pam_limits: Could not set limit for ...: Operation not permitted

2015-02-22 Thread Kai Krakow
Kai Krakow hurikha...@gmail.com schrieb: But now I got a new message in the log: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 Hmm, maybe Gentoo ships some dbus hookup for systemd user sessions that triggers this? It's triggered by gnome-keyring-daemon... I already set

Re: [systemd-devel] heads-up: chasing journal(?) related regression in 219 causing boot hang/fail

2015-02-22 Thread Martin Pitt
Lennart Poettering [2015-02-20 17:02 +0100]: To me this appears as if dbus is hanging for some reason. Have you checked what dbus is doing? D-Bus itself seems to be fine. There are services on it, busctl works, etc. Anyway, I now have a capable enough arsenal to reproduce that hang fully

Re: [systemd-devel] A use case for staged startup

2015-02-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Andrei Borzenkov arvidj...@gmail.com wrote: Do you really need to fully overlay root? I.e. is it possible to just (bind-)mount /etc, /var? /usr should be possible to retain read-only. Once the upper layer of the overlayfs is JFFS2 (as intended), then it's more

Re: [systemd-devel] Removing image from /var/lib/machines

2015-02-22 Thread Peter Paule
Does it make sense to avoid copying /etc/resolv.conf to a container if the filesystem is read-only? sudo /usr/bin/systemd-nspawn --read-only -M docker-centos-nginx --read-only /usr/sbin/nginx Failed to copy /etc/resolv.conf to /var/lib/machines/docker-centos-nginx/etc/resolv.conf:

Re: [systemd-devel] A use case for staged startup

2015-02-22 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Jeff Waugh: - systemd dutifully starts all the services it knows about during the initrd.target run, because they're all right there on the read-only filesystem … and because, I assume, they're implied by default.target. So why don't you start the system with some different target that

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Michael Biebl mbi...@gmail.com wrote: There is no such dependency in Debian either [1]. Luke simply has no idea what he is talking about. It would be great if Luke did some basic research and educate himself and not spread such misinformation. michael,

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] po: update French translation

2015-02-22 Thread Ronny Chevalier
Le 19 février 2015 23:31, Sylvain Plantefève sylvain.plantef...@gmail.com a écrit : --- po/fr.po | 76 +--- 1 file changed, 68 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git a/po/fr.po b/po/fr.po index 8e44e0c..58a0b85 100644 ---

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 08:24:37PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: so i'm not going to protest - i'm going to try a different approach. i'd like you to look at this list of debian packages that are dependent

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] cryptsetup-generator: support rd.luks.key=keyfile:keyfile_device

2015-02-22 Thread Jan Synacek
Andrei Borzenkov arvidj...@gmail.com writes: В Fri, 20 Feb 2015 10:56:42 +0100 Jan Synacek jsyna...@redhat.com пишет: To be more consistent with how dracut parses rd.luks.key, it is now allowed to specified it in the format keyfile[:keyfile_device]. Should keyfile_device be provided, it

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Martin Pitt
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [2015-02-23 2:08 +]: the problem, zbigniew, is that the intended use of this silent noop feature - to make it *possible* to have an alternative PID1 - *hasn't happened*. It sure has. Debian supports systemd, SysV init, and to a lesser degree OpenRC and

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
El 22/02/15 a las 23:08, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton escribió: the problem, zbigniew, is that the intended use of this silent noop feature - to make it *possible* to have an alternative PID1 - *hasn't happened*. any upstream software developer who has added in support for systemd has done

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
El 22/02/15 a las 22:37, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton escribió: well, you could provide hints in the documentation (and force them to be read by deliberately changing the API) Wow.. so what you want is even nuttier than I thought.. that would be a good place to start, showing people how

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Shawn Landden
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: i don't know if you've seen this yet: http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/02/15/1959209/removing-libsystemd0-from-a-live-running-debian-system my name's luke leighton, i'm a software libre advocate, and the

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:58:25PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Tobias Hunger tobias.hun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Luke, I am mostly a lurker on the systemd mailing list, so my opinion does not carry weight in this community. On Tue, Feb

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Cameron Norman
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:58:25PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Tobias Hunger tobias.hun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Luke, I am mostly a lurker on the systemd

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.com wrote: ...except that its introduction (usually --with-libsystemd) in those 100 (or so) packages has been done in a mutually-exclusive, hard-compile-time switch that *excludes* the possibility of dynamic (runtime)

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Tobias Hunger tobias.hun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Luke, I am mostly a lurker on the systemd mailing list, so my opinion does not carry weight in this community. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: so i'm not going

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: On Tue, 17.02.15 20:24, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (l...@lkcl.net) wrote: i note that there was announcement recently that the systemd team 'listens to users', so i am taking you at your word on that. Hmm,

Re: [systemd-devel] feature request: dlopen

2015-02-22 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:58:25PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: ...except that its introduction (usually --with-libsystemd) in those 100 (or so) packages has been done in a mutually-exclusive,