[systemd-devel] /etc/fstab dependences migrated between units due to automount feature

2019-08-29 Thread Daniel Otero Oubiña
Hi all! I have found a somehow strange systemd "feature" that I'm not sure if it's a bug. Let me know if you prefer having this reported on GitHub instead. First, let me explain my setup: I have a data filesystem that is split in two encrypted partitions (with LUKS) formated as a single btrfs rai

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: /etc/fstab obsolete?

2019-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.08.19 um 20:58 schrieb Dave Howorth: >> We do this for safety reasons. Please declare all your mounts as >> "nofail" and then systemd will boot up even without them being >> around. But of course things will fall apart badly then as soon as a >> device goes missing as all services will assu

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: /etc/fstab obsolete?

2019-08-29 Thread Dave Howorth
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:57:37 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Do, 29.08.19 07:46, Ulrich Windl > (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I agree to almost everything, except: > > > > The handling of /etc/fstab is a true mess. Maybe other config files > > are handles simil

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: /etc/fstab obsolete?

2019-08-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 29.08.19 07:46, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote: > Hi! > > I agree to almost everything, except: > > The handling of /etc/fstab is a true mess. Maybe other config files > are handles similarly, but I haven't discovered. For some reason > SLES does not set up a German

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: /etc/fstab obsolete?

2019-08-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 29.08.19 08:19, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote: > > > > # After editing this file, run 'systemctl daemon‑reload' to update systemd > > # units generated from this file. > > > > > > Unfortunately it's only half of the truth: Even if you do not modify > /etc/fstab, b

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: /etc/fstab obsolete?

2019-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.08.19 um 08:19 schrieb Ulrich Windl: > I really don't understand what "unload this on our doorstep" means: Bring a > common problem to your attention, while you consider any problems to be the > user's fault? at least you understand when you come up with "that's why i hate systemd" and sim