(This is more proper for a systemd-users mailing list, but I can't
find one.)
I'd like to customize my systemd. (I'm running Fedora Linux 19, with
systemd-204-20.fc19.x86_64.)
I have a line in /etc/fstab like this, which refers to a logical
volume on a USB storage device:
/dev/Freeze02/Store2
From: Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net
Note that a concept of mount at boot if it is there, otherwise don't
cannot work.
It worked until a week or two ago. I want it back.
I'm sure you're right that in the abstract, it cannot be made to
work. But that isn't the problem I'm facing.
From: Thomas Suckow thomas.suc...@pnnl.gov
From: Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net
Note that a concept of mount at boot if it is there, otherwise don't
cannot work.
It worked until a week or two ago. I want it back.
I'm sure you're right that in the abstract, it cannot
From: Mantas Mikulėnas graw...@gmail.com
For fstab, the units are created by a 'generator'
(systemd-fstab-generator), which writes them under /run/systemd/generator
every time the configuration is reloaded.
I'm not at my PC right now so I cannot check, but I /do/ remember someone
From: Andrei Borzenkov arvidj...@gmail.com
Here's an interesting fact: What systemd does (in this situation)
isn't true automounting; rather it waits for the *first* time the
device/volume becomes available, and then mounts it. Any later
attachments of the volume do not cause
From: wor...@alum.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley)
When reading /etc/fstab a few special mount options are
understood by systemd which influence how dependencies are
created for mount points from /etc/fstab. [...] If
x-systemd.device-timeout= is specified it may be used
From: Andrei Borzenkov arvidj...@gmail.com
bor@opensuse:~/src/systemd systemctl show boot.mount -p WantedBy --no-pager
WantedBy=dev-sda1.device
Which has the effect that if device was not present at boot but appears
later, the very appearance of device triggers start of mount unit -
From: Simon McVittie simon.mcvit...@collabora.co.uk
In my Store.mount file, I see no indication of an executable which
implements the unit.
I think it's always mount(8), which has its own extension mechanism to
dispatch per-filesystem if necessary (e.g. mount.cifs).
What I was thinking
From: Mantas Mikulėnas graw...@gmail.com
What I was thinking of is, what is the program that reads (directly or
indirectly) the Store.mount file and from that decides exactly how to
call mount(8), and when to call it?
It's systemd itself (pid 1).
My guess was that the name of this
From: Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie
I'm maybe missing something, but in the case of mount units, isn't that
framework program mount(8)?
It has a mechanism for parsing default options that apply to all mounts
and then calling out to the appropriate, filesystem specific mount
program
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice tobias.geerinckx.r...@gmail.com
Step back, and define exactly what it is you actually need^Wwant to do.
For a certain entry in /etc/fstab (which will in practice always have
the option nofail), if the device is not available until booting is
over (which I'm willing
From: Andrei Borzenkov arvidj...@gmail.com
At least, it is impossible to achieve what the goal of OP was -
attempt to automount device exactly once on system boot and give up if
it was not successful. Which had been semantic of /etc/fstab for quite
some time.
I don't have a need to
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice tobias.geerinckx.r...@gmail.com
That's not to say that it didn't happen to work most of the time. I
just hoped systemd could do better. I still do.
I agree that systemd's current default behavior is better than the
previous default. But there are some cases where
From: Philippe De Swert philippedesw...@gmail.com
There is a very unlikely case where this can happen since gcc usually
does the sane thing. But let's make sure found_last is initialized anyway.
You'd better -- the C standard does *not* require the compiler to
intialize local (auto)
From: Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
Did you ever ask yourself why your project provokes that amount of
resistance and polarity? Did you ever ask yourself whether this
really is just resistance against anything new from people who
just do not like new or whether it contains*valuable*
Let me offer this as a suggestion of what might be the root of some
issues:
One of the lessons in Fred Brooks' The Mythical Man-Month is that it
takes three times more effort to produce a *program product* as it
does to produce the *program*. That is, 2/3 of the effort is not to
make the
From: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl
More seriously, the idea of having shell scripts which you're going
to modify to customize your setup is simply crazy. How robust would
your changes be? How would you ever handle upgrades? How would more
than one admin manage a machine
From: Simon Peeters peeters.si...@gmail.com
2014-10-07 19:12 GMT+02:00 Jon Stanley jonstan...@gmail.com:
[Service]
ExecStartPre=/something/that/sets/var
ExecStart=/some/file $var
ExecStart=/bin/sh -c . /something/that/sets/var; /some/file $var
Yeah, I think some thing like this would
From: Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com
We really should be more specific and call it virtualbox and hyper-v
instead, similar to say virt-what and other similar tools. I will be happy
write the patches if this makes sense.
At the least, we need documentation that tells the user what name
From: Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no
What we do, however, is to expose the configuration state using the
sd-network C API, which external programs can watch and react on (see
how timesyncd and resolved currently works).
In a situation where one wants to do what a hook does, having a
separate
From: David Herrmann dh.herrm...@gmail.com
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Daniel Buch boogiewasth...@gmail.com wrote:
Nice, I was in the process of implementing this. Looks good to me. But I
think it would be better to use vi instead of vim if no editor is set.
Vim is not installed on
From: Mantas Mikulėnas graw...@gmail.com
Normally $VISUAL would be first, followed by $EDITOR...
(But in practice nobody sets them to different values anyway, since no
programs aside from mailx care about the distinction. So it's fine
either way, and just ignoring $VISUAL would be just as
From: Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net
We are always interested in technical feedback.
We are not very interested in FUD mails that tell us how we'd force
people, how we'd behave like microsoft and so on. That's not useful,
that's pretty much only hurtful.
I haven't read this
I am running Fedora 16 with kernel 3.14.19-100.fc19.x86_64 and
systemd-204-21.fc19.x86_64.
On startup (and sometimes shutdown), I see a message like this in
/var/log/messages:
Oct 6 13:53:37 hobgoblin modprobe[623]: modprobe: ERROR: missing
parameters. See -h.
This message appears to be
From: Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net
Please, let's discuss this elsewhere. Let's keep a strict technical
focus on this ML!
I believe that you mean that outsiders are welcome here to provide
assistance to systemd as it has already been implemented. One
difficulty is that outsiders
From: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl
That mostly applies to people who actually don't use systemd and are
commenting from the peanut gallery. Actual *users* when they are unhappy
are unhappy about bugs.
That is not entirely true. I'm a user (because systemd is in Fedora
19),
Simon McVittie simon.mcvit...@collabora.co.uk writes:
On 18/12/14 08:05, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Any initscript that is using su - would [cause badness]
Don't do that then? Init scripts are fairly clearly not login sessions.
Which init scripts do that?
More to the point, why would an
Simon McVittie simon.mcvit...@collabora.co.uk writes:
On 18/12/14 14:10, Dale R. Worley wrote:
Simon McVittie simon.mcvit...@collabora.co.uk writes:
On 18/12/14 08:05, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
Any initscript that is using su - would [cause badness]
Don't do that then? Init scripts are fairly
Andrei Borzenkov arvidj...@gmail.com writes:
There is not a single word about login session in su man page.
It says it starts login shell - but login session is not created by
shell so I do not see where you draw this conclusion from.
The primary reason to use su - in this cases is a) get a
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