Re: [systemd-devel] No space left errors on shutdown with systemd-homed /home dir

2022-02-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 2:02 PM Colin Guthrie wrote: > > Goffredo Baroncelli wrote on 30/01/2022 09:27: > > On 29/01/2022 19.01, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 2:53 AM Goffredo Baroncelli > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I think that for the systemd uses cases (singled device FS), a simpl

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Re: version bump of minimal kernel version supported by systemd?

2022-03-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 4:30 AM Ulrich Windl wrote: > > I wonder: > > Why not providing some test suite instead: If the test suite succeeds, systemd > might work; if it doesn't, manual steps are needed. > My guess is that most people will quit trying once manual steps are needed. > In addition the

Re: [systemd-devel] version bump of minimal kernel version supported by systemd?

2022-03-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 4:30 PM Michael Biebl wrote: > > As far as Debian is concerned, we do have > > 4.9.x in old old stable aka stretch > 4.19.x in old stable aka buster > 5.10.x in stable aka bullseye > 5.16.x in unstable/bookworm > > We do provide backports of current systemd versions for bul

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Re: [systemd‑devel] version bump of minimal kernel version supported by systemd?

2022-04-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 8:15 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 10:23:21AM +, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 09:45 +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 09:33:50AM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote: > > > > > > > Greg KH schrieb am 24.03.

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:45 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 08:05 +0200, Ulrich Windl wrote: > > > > > Luca Boccassi schrieb am 05.04.2022 > > > > > um 22:07 in > > Nachricht <05cf10d04274dcbff07fed88e98dca2eebb24b7d.ca...@gmail.com>: > > > Hi, > > > > > > As part of our spring

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 8:07 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 06:51 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:45 AM Luca Boccassi > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 08:05 +0200, Ulrich Windl wrote: > > >

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 3:45 AM Ulrich Windl wrote: > > >>> Wols Lists schrieb am 06.04.2022 um 21:41 in > Nachricht : > > On 06/04/2022 10:34, Luca Boccassi wrote: > >>> Symlinking /sbin or /usr/sbin binaries to /usr is also a bad concept > >>> IMHO. > >>> > >>> It seems systemd is the new Micros

[systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-26 Thread Neal Gompa
Hey all, Some of you might know about the recent discussion in Fedora about dropping BIOS support[1][2]. While the end result for now is that we're not dropping it[3], several side discussions involved enabling systemd-boot as an option in Fedora in the future. While I *personally* am not a huge

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 6:47 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 07:12:02PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Hey all, > > Hi Neal, > > thank you for starting the discussion. I think it'd be good to figure > out what are the high-leve

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 8:55 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 6:47 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 07:12:02PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > Hi Neal, > > > > thank yo

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 7:41 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Di, 26.04.22 19:12, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > Some of you might know about the recent discussion in Fedora about > > dropping BIOS support[1][2]. While the end res

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:31 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 27.04.22 08:55, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > You mentioned that a few times, and we (at least Lennnart and I) have > > > asked for details. If there's something important miss

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:13 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 08:55:55AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 6:47 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 07:12:02PM -040

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:13 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 09:31:10AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 7:41 AM Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > It is not very friendly when you're in a failure scenario or hav

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:26 AM Dan Nicholson wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:10 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > Note that it means Fedora CI, pull requests from contributors, and > > releng auto-rebuilds will no longer work. Maintainers basically > > sig

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:46 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-04-27 at 11:26 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:13 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 09:31:10AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:49 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:26:14AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:13 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 09:31:10AM -04

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:59 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-04-27 at 11:48 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:46 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2022-04-27 at 11:26 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:19 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:40:36AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:26 AM Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:10 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > &

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 1:07 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:19 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:40:36AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:26 AM Dan Nicholson wrote: > > &

Re: [systemd-devel] Splitting sd-boot from systemd/bootctl for enabling sd-boot in Fedora

2022-05-09 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 10:30 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Fr, 06.05.22 10:12, Wols Lists (antli...@youngman.org.uk) wrote: > > > On 27/04/2022 14:53, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > I think we systematically disagree on one point here: I am pretty sure > > > picking a boot loader is genuine

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-nspawn container not starting on RHEL9.0

2022-08-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 11:16 AM Thomas Archambault wrote: > > Thank you again Lennart, and thx Kevin. > > That makes total sense, and accounts for the application's high level > start-up delay which appears to be what we are stuck with if we are over > xfs. Unfortunately, it's difficult to dictat

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Re: [systemd‑devel] systemd‑nspawn container not starting on RHEL9.0

2022-08-11 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 3:15 AM Ulrich Windl wrote: > > >>> Lennart Poettering schrieb am 10.08.2022 um 22:09 > in > Nachricht : > > On Mi, 10.08.22 10:13, Thomas Archambault (t...@tparchambault.com) wrote: > > > >> Thank you again Lennart, and thx Kevin. > >> > >> That makes total sense, and acc

Re: [systemd-devel] Any chance of a new stable v250 tag?

2022-12-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 4:16 PM Ian Pilcher wrote: > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd-stable/issues/233 > CentOS Stream 9 is being upgraded to systemd 252[1], so this will likely become unneeded soon. The systemd-extras package in EPEL will be upgraded to systemd 252 to go along with it event

Re: [systemd-devel] Linking /lib64 to /usr/lib

2023-02-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 9:45 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Di, 21.02.23 16:00, Adrian Vovk (adrianv...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Would you accept a patch to shared/base-filesystem that makes /usr/lib > > a fallback link target for /lib64? On my distro I don't support > > mul

Re: [systemd-devel] Linking /lib64 to /usr/lib

2023-02-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 11:39 AM Adrian Vovk wrote: > > Well it would only link /lib64 to /usr/lib if both Debian-style and > Fedora-style multilib don't exist and the loader is in lib, unless I'm > mistaken? I'm pretty sure it should be harmless to Fedora and openSUSE. > > Maybe it'd be prefera

Re: [systemd-devel] Feedback sought: can we drop cgroupv1 support soon?

2023-07-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 6:15 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Heya! > > It's currently a terrible mess having to support both cgroupsv1 and > cgroupsv2 in our codebase. > > cgroupsv2 first entered the kernel in 2014, i.e. *eight* years ago > (kernel 3.16). We soon intend to raise the baseline for

Re: [systemd-devel] Feedback sought: can we drop cgroupv1 support soon?

2023-07-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:52 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 at 13:45, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 6:15 AM Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > > > > Heya! > > > > > > It's currently a terrible

[systemd-devel] Dropping SysV init script support? (was: systemd prerelease 254-rc3)

2023-07-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 9:00 AM systemd tag bot wrote: > > * Support for System V service scripts is now deprecated and will be > removed in a future release. Please make sure to update your > software > *now* to include a native systemd unit file instead of a legacy >

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping SysV init script support? (was: systemd prerelease 254-rc3)

2023-07-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 11:40 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2023 at 16:30, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 9:00 AM systemd tag bot > > wrote: > > > > > > * Support for System V service scripts is now deprecated and

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 0/1] x86/kexec: UKI support

2023-09-11 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 7:15 PM Jarkko Sakkinen wrote: > > On Sat Sep 9, 2023 at 7:18 PM EEST, Jan Hendrik Farr wrote: > > Hello, > > > > this patch implements UKI support for kexec_file_load. It will require > > support > > in the kexec-tools userspace utility. For testing purposes the following

Re: [RFC] initoverlayfs - a scalable initial filesystem

2023-12-11 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 12:30 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:57:58AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Fr, 08.12.23 17:59, Eric Curtin (ecur...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > > Here is the boot sequence with initoverlayfs integrated, the > > > mini-initramfs contains

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd prerelease 256-rc1

2024-04-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 6:15 PM systemd tag bot wrote: > > A new systemd ☠️ pre-release ☠️ has just been tagged. Please download the > tarball here: > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/archive/v256-rc1.tar.gz > > NOTE: This is ☠️ pre-release ☠️ software. Do not run this on production >

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd prerelease 256-rc1

2024-04-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 9:41 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Do, 25.04.24 18:52, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > * systemd-gpt-auto-generator will stop generating units for ESP or > > > XBOOTLDR partitions if it finds mou

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd prerelease 256-rc1

2024-04-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 9:46 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Fr, 26.04.24 10:39, Dan Nicholson (d...@endlessos.org) wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 10:11 AM Adrian Vovk wrote: > > > > > > Perhaps Fedora can be adjusted to follow the BLS's recommended mount > > > points? > > > > The prob