Re: [systemd-devel] ruby bindings

2016-10-04 Thread David Timothy Strauss
For what it's worth, I try to encourage projects to identify their bindings as simply for systemd, even if the journal support is the first (and only) set of APIs available. It's just so easy to support the other APIs once the journal is already supported, and daemons that want to use the journal

Re: [systemd-devel] Zero downtime restart of Web application (Nginx, Puma, JRuby)

2016-07-15 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Jul 14, 2016, 19:07 Kai Hendry wrote: > I would love to see that 10 lines of shell you claimed, but I think you > might be underestimating the fine work that went into Dokku! > It's not so much underestimating the work in Dokku as much as leveraging what systemd

Re: [systemd-devel] Zero downtime restart of Web application (Nginx, Puma, JRuby)

2016-07-14 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Dokku would be about a 5-10 lines of shell script with services running in systemd. On Wed, Jul 13, 2016, 20:41 Kai Hendry wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jun 2016, at 07:56 PM, Paul Menzel wrote: > > Is that possible by just using systemd, or is a load balancer like > > HAProxy or

Re: [systemd-devel] Adding a Timer section to .service files

2016-07-08 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 9:07 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > Ultimately it's really a design decision: tabular file formats have > the benefit of being a lot more dense, but are neither particularly > extensible nor self-explanatory (as you need to know what each column >

Re: [systemd-devel] Zero downtime restart of Web application (Nginx, Puma, JRuby)

2016-07-06 Thread David Timothy Strauss
You either need a load balancer (less elegant) or need to make use of the Linux kernel's SO_REUSEPORT option so the new application can bind to the same port as the old one (at which point the old application should unbind the port and shut itself down).

Re: [systemd-devel] rkt container engine fetch user/perm patterns

2016-05-31 Thread David Timothy Strauss
There could be a (potentially socket-activated) service that handles requests for image downloads. On Tue, May 31, 2016, 11:06 Brandon Philips wrote: > Hello Everyone- > > The rkt container engine wants to run with different permissions pre-start > and start. In pre-start it

Re: [systemd-devel] Seeking advice for configuring SystemCallFilter=

2016-01-22 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Rebooting an old thread now that we're finally testing this out. > "strace" should do the job. It should give you a pretty good idea of all syscalls a process uses. That's what I used when testing SyscallFilters=. This turns out to be less useful than it seems. There are two major ways to

Re: [systemd-devel] Seeking advice for configuring SystemCallFilter=

2016-01-22 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:36 PM Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > There's a third way: > > ExecStart=/usr/bin/strace -D -ff -o /tmp/myservice.trace > /usr/bin/myservlce --foo > Do you know if that would pass through file descriptors for socket activation?

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme bindings

2015-11-16 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Would you be interested in moving this work to the systemd umbrella project on GitHub? You would still manage the team, but it may get more visibility. On Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 19:27 Jan Synáček wrote: > Hello, > > if anybody lurking here and hacking on systemd also likes

Re: [systemd-devel] about socket

2015-11-11 Thread David Timothy Strauss
The wording of your questions isn't clear to me. Do you mean that A and B are socket-activated services, each requiring C? And when you say "the message of A and the message of B," do you mean packets going to the sockets for A and B? If so, a packet going to A or B will also start C. The

Re: [systemd-devel] A few GitHub team changes

2015-10-16 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:35 AM Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > What makes up that members list [1] in the first place? > I think it includes anyone on any team associated with the organization. It also provides organization-level permissions for things like making new

Re: [systemd-devel] A few GitHub team changes

2015-10-13 Thread David Timothy Strauss
In case anyone in the former owners group is checking here, you would have received an email saying you've been removed from the "Core" team. GitHub wanted me to rename it, so I did to "Core" before ultimately realizing it served no further purpose. No one should have any less access to systemd

[systemd-devel] A few GitHub team changes

2015-10-13 Thread David Timothy Strauss
I made a few minor GitHub team changes: (1) The "Owners" team is now deleted. GitHub migrated the access this team originally provided to an "owner" attribute, making the team unnecessary. Leaving the team would have only caused the actual owners to be out-of-sync with the named "Owners" team.

Re: [systemd-devel] run no more than one of foo@.service at a time

2015-10-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
If you only want one instance running, why not just create one service and reconfigure/restart it? On Mon, Oct 5, 2015, 09:04 Johannes Ernst wrote: > I have a foo@.service. When started as > systemctl start foo@abc > I’d like all other currently active foo@…

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Please register for systemd.conf 2015 now, only 14 tickets left!

2015-09-28 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 18:14 Lennart Poettering wrote: > We are close to being sold out now, only 14 tickets are still > available now. If you intend to attend, make sure to register for the > conference *now*, before it's too late and all tickets are gone. > > Register

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd and hostname supplied by DHCP

2015-09-28 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:19 AM Alessio Igor Bogani < alessioigorbog...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi systemd developers and users, > > The systemd 219 brought with Yocto "Fido" can't set hostname supplied > by DHCP on my Beaglebone: > > eth0: eth0: could not bring up interface:

Re: [systemd-devel] RFC: filter and search journalctl

2015-08-07 Thread David Timothy Strauss
I think you should look into forwarding your logs to a more sophisticated aggregator, like the ELK stack. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] SysVInit service migration to systemd

2015-06-26 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM Mantas Mikulėnas graw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Lesley Kimmel ljkimme...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all; I've been working with RHEL5/6 for the past several years and have developed many init scripts/services which generally use lock

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Git development moved to github

2015-06-09 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Let's just try the GitHub tracker. I like how it associates issues with pull requests and supports auto-linking for commit IDs, user names, and other issue numbers. Is there any serious use case for systemd upstream it doesn't support? ___ systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Git development moved to github

2015-06-03 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:03 PM Kay Sievers k...@vrfy.org wrote: Could you please check your old repos at: https://github.com/systemd and move or delete them if they are no longer needed. One of them at least has a comment like This is old. Actual repo is on my davidstrauss account. Will

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Git development moved to github

2015-06-02 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Looks like everything's in place now at the new github.com/systemd/systemd home. I've halted the Jenkins CI from pushing to that repository (which was formerly the mirror updated whenever CI passed). I'll probably update CI to merely push a branch like master-passing so there's still a way to get

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Git development moved to github

2015-06-01 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:20 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 08:12:37PM +0200, David Herrmann wrote: [1] https://github.com/systemd-devs/systemd Is there a particular reason not to use the existing https://github.com/systemd/systemd ? No

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] core: introduce ExitOnIdle= and ExitOnIdleSec=

2015-04-21 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: So I see no use case for idle timer based cleanup. Can you please explain why they are better than on-demand cleanup? We do it on Pantheon's infrastructure because many daemons have a resource footprint that is more

Re: [systemd-devel] regarding to cgroup siblings mask

2015-03-30 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 7:56 PM, WaLyong Cho walyong@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, it seems not. When I added MemoryLimit= option to just one service, cgroups for every unit were generated on memory cgroup. It looks like memory_limit and cpu_quota_per_sec_usec both have this potential issue. The

Re: [systemd-devel] regarding to cgroup siblings mask

2015-03-27 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:33 PM, WaLyong Cho walyong@samsung.com wrote: Thanks, understood. But I think this propagation is needed only for taking weight argument such like CPUShares=weight, StartupCPUShares=weight, BlockIOWeight=weight, StartupBlockIOWeight=weight,

Re: [systemd-devel] regarding to cgroup siblings mask

2015-03-26 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:29 AM, WaLyong Cho walyong@samsung.com wrote: If this can be configurable, how about add a configuration for cgroup mask propagation to siblings? I believe the way to prevent propagation is to separate the units into different slices.

Re: [systemd-devel] regarding to cgroup siblings mask

2015-03-26 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:29 AM, WaLyong Cho walyong@samsung.com wrote: Could anyone explain why? An admin using CPUShares= or a similar proportional CGroup controller probably assumes that setting the shares to twice the default (for example) increases the relative proportion of resources

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] systemctl: add edit verb

2014-10-24 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Does this make sense? Speaking as a nano user and someone who barely knows how to quit vim, I still think the decision of the default editor should be vi or the distribution's choice.

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH, v3 3/3] find_symlinks: adds a cache of enabled unit symbolic link state

2014-10-23 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: With your patch you generate a system-wide cache for that, but when do you flush it precisely? What's the logic there? It updates on daemon-reload or daemon-reexec, consistent with how we load modified unit files.

Re: [systemd-devel] How to use cgroups for Tracker?

2014-10-18 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Martyn Russell mar...@lanedo.com wrote: True, but some users (I am guessing with low end machines) are complaining about Tracker while they're trying to use their system. I said that having an active user does not inherently imply resource contention, not that

Re: [systemd-devel] Starting different services from same process

2014-10-17 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Paassen, Hiram van hiram.van.paas...@mastervolt.com wrote: Is it possible to start multiple different services from one process? In short, that is not sanely possible. If you care about latency for accessing the service, even on the first request, then just don't

Re: [systemd-devel] How is desktop container getting along?

2014-10-17 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Leslie Zhai xiangzha...@gmail.com wrote: But there are only lots of use cases about Linux Server and web application, as a Linux desktop geek, I often consider about the disadvantage of traditional deployment of Linux desktop application. Krita, for example, an

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] logind: Support /etc/systemd/logind.conf.d/*.conf

2014-10-16 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Changes like this make config management so much easier. +1 ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] A schedule for the systemd hackfest next week?

2014-10-15 Thread David Timothy Strauss
I would like to discuss the state of systemd scalability on dense/large systems. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] How to use cgroups for Tracker?

2014-10-15 Thread David Timothy Strauss
I'm responding here only to the systemd list. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Martyn Russell mar...@lanedo.com wrote: Another option would be to use systemd. However, I am mindful that it's not available everywhere just yet (but soon will be I hear) I am also aware, I might get a biased

[systemd-devel] stunnel now supports socket activation

2014-10-14 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Mark Theunissen, part of the team here at Pantheon, got our changes upstream in version 5.05: https://www.stunnel.org/sdf_ChangeLog.html Progress! ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v2] Added test for unit file state returned by unit_file_get_state and unit_file_get_list. Made test-enabled units more basic, removing superfluous fields. Cleaned up test p

2014-10-09 Thread David Timothy Strauss
It looks like newlines at the end of the new files are inconsistent (No newline at end of file). Other than that +1. It's great to add tests, have them pass on master, optimize master (the next patch), and then still have them pass. ___ systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Made test-enabled units more basic, removing superfluous fields.

2014-10-07 Thread David Timothy Strauss
I think the test additions need to be rebased into a single commit onto master rather than the initial patch plus the fixes as a second commit. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Added test for unit file state returned by unit_file_get_state and unit_file_get_list.

2014-10-04 Thread David Timothy Strauss
It would be good if the test units were more basic, not things including Crash recovery kernel arming. This makes it seems like the contents are substantial to the tests, when they're not. Just run something like ExecStart=/usr/bin/echo to make it clear that the units are stubs. Then, anything but

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Added test for unit file state returned by unit_file_get_state and unit_file_get_list.

2014-10-03 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Just to give some context, at Pantheon, we're working on optimizations for the enabled part of systemd core. The first step we're doing is enhancing the test suite. The additions here pass on master and will also pass with the changes we'll submit after more tests are in core.

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-socket-proxyd slapd

2014-07-26 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Would you be willing to post the entire unit files for everything here, just so future users can see them? Presumably, you're using JoinsNamespaceOf=proxy-to-directory-400.service in vgp.master-ldap-400.service? ___ systemd-devel mailing list

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-socket-proxyd slapd

2014-07-16 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: This won't work, since proxyd now cannot connect to port 400. There is now a way to make that work with JoinsNamespaceOf= ___ systemd-devel mailing list

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd fails to get DHCPv4 lease with disabled IPv6

2014-07-14 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: yes is a synonym for both and no for none. These are odd semantics, given that IPv6 is completely configurable using router advertisements for even DNS information (that is, no DHCP whatsoever). Perhaps the option should be

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Add DEPLOYMENT to hostnamectl

2014-07-08 Thread David Timothy Strauss
As someone who deploys developer VMs and production ones, this is useful. Will it be possible to make units have ConditionDeployment=? That would allow disabling, say, pushes of log messages to our log aggregation servers from development and testing deployments.

Re: [systemd-devel] Extending machine-info to include machine roles

2014-07-08 Thread David Timothy Strauss
I don't see much value in choosing a role from a predefined list. Rarely do machines fit into one single, straightforward role. It would be more useful to support machine tags/labels/roles that map to units, especially if that's dynamically configurable using, say, DHCP(v6). Then, something may

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Improve xz compression performance.

2014-07-08 Thread David Timothy Strauss
+1 on anything that makes the journal faster on heavy workloads. It remains a major bottleneck on our systems. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

[systemd-devel] Seeking advice for configuring SystemCallFilter=

2014-07-08 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Is there a good way to empirically determine the additional calls required for an application, sort of like selinux permissive mode? We're often running user code on our servers, and we'd like to perform analysis and gradually roll out filtering. We'd like to be as non-disruptive as possible.

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd-networkd: Prepend static nameserver to DHCP-discovered nameservers

2014-06-17 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas graw...@gmail.com wrote: I mean, as long as the first-listed server responds – and localhost always responds – then the fallback servers won't be used at all. Localhost can be subject to two types of failure: * The local daemon being down. *

Re: [systemd-devel] Soliciting feedback for golang bindings to the systemd journal C API

2014-06-10 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Dan Mace dm...@redhat.com wrote: Which only handles writes via the Unix socket. The implementation we're prototyping supports journal queries in ways that (to my knowledge) aren't possible without either forking to external tools (e.g. journalctl) or

Re: [systemd-devel] Soliciting feedback for golang bindings to the systemd journal C API

2014-06-09 Thread David Timothy Strauss
The CoreOS crew has already done most of this work by writing a native Go implementation (rather than wrapping the C APIs). ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] How to escape from systemd slice

2014-05-27 Thread David Timothy Strauss
One of the cleanest ways to do what you want is to create a D-Bus-activated systemd service (or socket-activated, if that's more appropriate). That allows activation completely outside the user's session without elevated privileges. Of course, it requires considerable work for each service to do

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] units: use KillMode=process for systemd-nspawn@.service

2014-05-27 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Is there a downside to using KillMode=mixed instead? ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] units: use KillMode=process for systemd-nspawn@.service

2014-05-27 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan Liu net...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect one downside is that if the container takes longer than the timeout to shutdown then it will go on a SIGKILL-ing spree... which could be a problem if a container process was in the middle of saving to disk while

Re: [systemd-devel] timesyncd, dnssec

2014-05-22 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld ja...@zx2c4.com wrote: Temporary work around is to hard code IPs into NTP. It'd be neat to do the following: (1) Do a DNS lookup for NTP servers, fetching DNSSec information. (2) If a signature/clock sync issue is the only barrier to

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] core: Filter by state behind the D-Bus API, not in the systemctl client.

2014-05-12 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Bumping this for review. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] User and Group permissions for .socket files

2014-05-12 Thread David Timothy Strauss
An alternative workaround is to put the socket into a directory that has the permissions desired. If you can't read the directory, you can't use a socket in that directory. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] timer: allow user to control activation time of cron-like timers

2014-05-11 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Alex B pkunk...@gmail.com wrote: It's ok for one timer, but not for the set of them. In general I'm want to schedule all maintenance tasks to 5 a.m. or lunch break and forget about them. This applies both for distro provided timers an my own. I'd personally

Re: [systemd-devel] Disable timers

2014-04-29 Thread David Timothy Strauss
systemctl disable or systemctl mask. You also have to stop it first, as that only changes the default. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] core: Filter by state behind the D-Bus API, not in the systemctl client.

2014-04-28 Thread David Timothy Strauss
This is a completed version of the patch Lennart and I worked on at the hackfest. The version we worked on had separate string arguments for each type of state. This patch harmonizes it more with the way systemctl --state already works, which is an array of possible states to match across all

Re: [systemd-devel] [ systemd-devel ] [PATCH] Fix Bug 72611 (systemctl is-enabled scales poorly with many units

2014-04-15 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Posting here for discussion at the systemd hackfest today. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Two git trees

2014-04-11 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Tests are back to passing, so GitHub is now in sync with the freedesktop.org git. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd 212 RemoveIPC=yes breaks postgresql

2014-04-11 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Yuck, I figure we need to ignore RemoveIPC for all system users, not just for root. This still seems dangerous to me. I'm sure I have services running under users where I've forgotten the system flag for the

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd 212 RemoveIPC=yes breaks postgresql

2014-04-11 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Maybe if any service is running something as a user *or* it's a system user, that user is immune to RemoveIPC? ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] cgroup: After MemmoryAccounting=yes running scope has no memusage

2014-04-09 Thread David Timothy Strauss
+1 from me. Seems like a good bugfix. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Two git trees

2014-04-08 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: I think it is synchronized after successful jenkins runs, so it is always buildable and unit tests pass. That's my GitHub mirror, not anything on freedesktop.org.

Re: [systemd-devel] Two git trees

2014-04-08 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: https://github.com/systemd/systemd is not yours? Nope, that's mine. You were right. I misread the two trees as the authenticated and anonymous git on freedesktop.org for some reason. They were out of sync

Re: [systemd-devel] Two git trees

2014-04-08 Thread David Timothy Strauss
CI is back online, but test-dhcp-option is currently failing, so it won't update on GitHub until that's fixed. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not debug

2014-04-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Jason St. John jstj...@purdue.edu wrote: init.debug would be better than systemd.debug, in my opinion. It is shorter (less typing and no possible end-user confusion over systemd.debug vs. system.debug), and it is init-agnostic. Other init systems (OpenRC,

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not debug

2014-04-03 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Florian Albrechtskirchinger falbrechtskirchin...@gmail.com wrote: Both you and Tom Gundersen raised the point of assisting end-users with boot issues. 'dbg' (as suggested, shorthand for 'dbg=kri') is as concise and simple as it gets. -1 on this because it moves

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] run systemd-tmpfiles-clean only when we have AC power

2014-04-03 Thread David Timothy Strauss
-1 on adding ConditionACPower=true I frequently only plug in my laptop after putting it to sleep and then disconnect it before waking it up again. It'd be possible to run cleanup less frequently when on battery, but that would just delay the work and increase the impact (which is pretty

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd 212 RemoveIPC=yes breaks postgresql

2014-04-02 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Oh dear. Perhaps there's a way to use cgroups data to more selectively do cleanup when there's overlap between regular users and service users? ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] Failed to start Sendmail Mail Transport Agent

2014-03-28 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Lee Atkinson linuxle...@gmail.com wrote: .reading the Fedora 18 Users Guide Fedora 18 is not a currently supported release, and its systemd is ancient by this mailing list's standards. ___ systemd-devel mailing list

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build: change tcpwrappers support to disabled by default

2014-03-25 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: So on Fedora tcpwrap is unlikely to go away soon. Not necessarily. We just decided this morning in the server working group that we would only include it if base OS insists:

Re: [systemd-devel] Topics for the Linux Storage, Filesystem MM Summit

2014-03-25 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Other than for zswap discussions, I spent the whole time on the storage and file system side. I've filled in the topics that came up (or I could topically ask about), and I have some good contacts now if answering any others proves essential. Outside the file system/MM space, at least one Ganesha

Re: [systemd-devel] Restarting a socket starts the associated service

2014-03-24 Thread David Timothy Strauss
It's already reported (by me): https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75185 ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-journal-remote

2014-03-18 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: Curl requires the whole file to be exported first, which isn't great, because it wants to give the content size in the header. I'm note sure if it is possible to tell it to not do that. I'm think you just

Re: [systemd-devel] Forwarding logs to another systems journal

2014-03-13 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Anand Neeli anand.ne...@gmail.com wrote: I have multiple systems, How do i forward logs from one system running systemd-journald to another remote systems journal service, so that all the logs are stored on a centralized machine. Have went through

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] man: systemd-bootchart - fix spacing in command

2014-03-06 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Applied. Thanks! ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Talks comparing systemd and launchd.

2014-03-06 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: Several of the ground breaking ideas in systemd seem to come directly from launchd. systemd makes no claim to be original or ground-breaking with many of its ideas. As you mention, some come from launchd. Others come from

Re: [systemd-devel] Talks comparing systemd and launchd.

2014-03-06 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: Now my philosophical sticking point is how big pid1 should be to do what it needs to do. Practically, I am trying to understand where those boundaries should be and how to communicate that information. A large amount of

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] core: add startup resource control option

2014-03-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
When is startup considered over? I'd like if it meant before the WantedBy unit was started so this value still has use for arbitrary startup. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] How to build systemd with statically linking

2014-03-01 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:46 AM, 황재영 j-zero.hw...@samsung.com wrote: I've tried to build systemd(v43) with statically linking. That version is ancient. I'm afraid you won't find much help with it here. Have you tried a newer release? ___ systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] statically linking systemd-socket-proxyd

2014-02-27 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Vincent Batts vba...@redhat.com wrote: Can we get a Makefile target for compiling the systemd-socket-proxyd as statically linked? For it to be portable for any guest container. I think that would be neat. While I wrote much of that proxy, I'm not versed well

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] sd-dhcp: implement IPv4 link-local support

2014-02-27 Thread David Timothy Strauss
This is a lot of code, and this approach is largely obsoleted by link-local IPv6 addressing, which also has the benefits of being simpler, deterministic (at least with RFC 4862), and collision-proof. Both Apple [1] and Microsoft [2] prefer IPv6 link-local as the best practice. Is it really that

[systemd-devel] Topics for the Linux Storage, Filesystem MM Summit

2014-02-27 Thread David Timothy Strauss
I'll be attending the Linux Storage, Filesystem MM Summit in March. Are there any topics germane to systemd I should put on the agenda or discuss with other folks there? Things I have in mind so far: * Next steps for mount and automount units * That's it so far. I'm mostly attending for my

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC] socket-proxyd: resolve addrinfo using sd-resolve

2014-02-20 Thread David Timothy Strauss
It's not ridiculous, but it's also no better. This patch still blocks the main event loop during each lookup. Proper integration of non-blocking lookup would involve using sd_resolve_get_fd() to integrate with the main event loop. ___ systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Docker, Supervisor and systemd

2014-02-20 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Paul Menzel paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Or is there a reason why systemd should not be used for that? Distro portability, but that's rapidly dying as a reason. ___ systemd-devel mailing list

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] It's release time!

2014-02-19 Thread David Timothy Strauss
The only thing in master I'm still having to patch in production is the is-enabled code path so it doesn't look up all the symlinks. I don't see that as a release blocker, though. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] It's release time!

2014-02-19 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: did you see the changes I made to the cgroup mask propagation bits? I reworked some code there to make sure that the mask doesn't keep increasing, but actually can lose bits again if cgroup properties are unset.

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] It's release time!

2014-02-19 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Now, as far as I can see I didn't break your scalibility changes, but I was wondering if you could give this a test run with your huge number of units setup? With 4000 units (2000 sockets and 2000 corresponding

Re: [systemd-devel] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047614

2014-02-12 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: That's some downstream distro bug. And this is Fedora mailinglist. RHEL issues are offtopic here. This is not a Fedora mailing list at all. ___ systemd-devel mailing list

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add SELinuxContext configuration item

2014-02-06 Thread David Timothy Strauss
In order to maximize consistency with newly committed options in systemd-nspawn, would it make sense to allow independent configuration of the process and file labels instead? ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Elided sees widespread use in the kernel and libc for locks: http://lwn.net/Articles/534758/ They're not referring to adding ellipses, though. They're talking about just removing locks. In that sense, elide and ellipsize are not synonyms. ___

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/1] Add SELinux support to systemd-nspawn

2014-02-04 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: processlabel The actual code processes this option as label. I'll fix all of this up (including the asprintf) and then commit. ___ systemd-devel mailing list

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/1] Add SELinux support to systemd-nspawn

2014-02-04 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Pushed with the following changes: * Lennart's suggestions for option names. * Lennart's other suggestion for no asprintf() in the options processing. Moved the concatenation to strjoin() on use. * Removed redundant trailing NULL in the arguments to strjoin(). * Removed invalid option -s from

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/1] Add SELinux support to systemd-nspawn

2014-02-02 Thread David Timothy Strauss
We would find this extremely useful. Our #1 long-term feature need is a containerization tool that supports both socket activation and selinux. libvirt-lxc has the former, but I'm seeing inconsistent documentation on the latter. I'd be glad to see systemd-nspawn get good support.

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Fix a typo

2014-02-02 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: I'm not certain if the current version is gramatically correct, but the proposed version seems wrong: there's just one sender, so only singular form makes sense. The current text makes more sense to me.

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/1] Allow systemd to run without assigning container to machine.slice

2014-01-30 Thread David Timothy Strauss
This seems applicable to what I'm working on (SaaS/PaaS company), but I'm not sure I understand the distinction in capability this change makes. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop Before=paths/sockets/timers.target from DefaultDependencies.

2014-01-29 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: What's the rationale here? Three possibilities for an *enabled* timer with DefaultDependencies=true: (1) WantedBy=timers.target, which redundantly adds Before=timers.target (because DefaultDependencies already

Re: [systemd-devel] What do I need to do to force systemd to create folders in the cgroups tree?

2014-01-28 Thread David Timothy Strauss
You're using both onelan-player.slice and onelan-players.slice in your example. Correct this first. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

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