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2014-01-16 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Michael Biebl at 16/01/14 18:22 did gyre and gimble: > 2014/1/16 Kay Sievers : >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: >>> 2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : >> Well, it can certainly continue to use and build against the old version for a while, no? >>> >

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2014-01-16 Thread Michael Biebl
2014/1/16 Kay Sievers : > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: >> 2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : > >>> Well, it can certainly continue to use and build against the old version >>> for a while, no? >> >> We'd have to make pre-systemd-209 and systemd-209 packages >> co-installable (

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2014-01-16 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > 2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : >> Well, it can certainly continue to use and build against the old version >> for a while, no? > > We'd have to make pre-systemd-209 and systemd-209 packages > co-installable (different source package names et

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2014-01-16 Thread Michael Biebl
2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : > On Thu, 16.01.14 18:27, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> >> 2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : >> > On Thu, 16.01.14 17:33, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> 2014/1/16 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : >> >> > I am also a bit worried about

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2014-01-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 16.01.14 17:19, Simon McVittie (simon.mcvit...@collabora.co.uk) wrote: > > On 16/01/14 15:41, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > There are some exceptions to this though. For example, I am unsure about > > libsystemd-daemon: it's relatively easy to maintain this in its own lib, > > sicne so fa

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2014-01-16 Thread Michael Biebl
2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : > On Thu, 16.01.14 17:33, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> >> 2014/1/16 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : >> > I am also a bit worried about so-bumps: currently we have very nice >> > backwards >> > compatibility, without any API removals. -daemon, -id128, -j

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2014-01-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 16.01.14 18:27, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > > 2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : > > On Thu, 16.01.14 17:33, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > >> > >> 2014/1/16 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : > >> > I am also a bit worried about so-bumps: currently we have very nice

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2014-01-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On 16/01/14 15:41, Lennart Poettering wrote: > There are some exceptions to this though. For example, I am unsure about > libsystemd-daemon: it's relatively easy to maintain this in its own lib, > sicne so far it actually doesn't use any of the shared code, because > its' embeddable. But then agaiu

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2014-01-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 16.01.14 17:33, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > > 2014/1/16 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : > > I am also a bit worried about so-bumps: currently we have very nice > > backwards > > compatibility, without any API removals. -daemon, -id128, -journal, -login > > are all still .so.0

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2014-01-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 16.01.14 17:24, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > > There are some exceptions to this though. For example, I am unsure about > > libsystemd-daemon: it's relatively easy to maintain this in its own lib, > > sicne so far it actually doesn't use any of the shared code,

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2014-01-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 16.01.14 17:31, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > 2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : > > So I am pretty sure libsystemd-id128, libsystemd-login, > > libsystemd-journal should just end up in a single libsystemd.so together > > with the event loop, the bus, the asyncns stuff and more. Al

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2014-01-16 Thread Michael Biebl
2014/1/16 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : > I am also a bit worried about so-bumps: currently we have very nice backwards > compatibility, without any API removals. -daemon, -id128, -journal, -login > are all still .so.0. But libsystemd-bus (libsystemd now) is much harder to > keep this way, among ot

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2014-01-16 Thread Michael Biebl
2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : > So I am pretty sure libsystemd-id128, libsystemd-login, > libsystemd-journal should just end up in a single libsystemd.so together > with the event loop, the bus, the asyncns stuff and more. All this > functinality requires each other, and should nto pull in its own

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2014-01-16 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > 2014/1/16 Lennart Poettering : >> So I am pretty sure libsystemd-id128, libsystemd-login, >> libsystemd-journal should just end up in a single libsystemd.so together >> with the event loop, the bus, the asyncns stuff and more. All this >> fun

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2014-01-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 04:41:48PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 13.01.14 22:58, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > > > Eeeh, why? This new name suggests that this libary is for systemd > > functionality. But so far it is a generic. Also, we have > > libsystemd-d

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2014-01-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 13.01.14 22:58, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > Eeeh, why? This new name suggests that this libary is for systemd > functionality. But so far it is a generic. Also, we have > libsystemd-daemon, libsystemd-id128, etc. As a consumer of the library, > I'd much prefer

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2014-01-14 Thread Kay Sievers
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> commit c813ca40c859ff8abc8bc6aabc3f1e896623eb67 >> Author: Tom Gundersen >> Date: Mon Jan 13 19:12:16 2014 +0100 >> >> libsystemd-dhcp: merge into libsystemd > OK. Hmm, maybe DHCP should stay as a separate lib? We shou

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2014-01-13 Thread Thomas H.P. Andersen
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:10:20PM -0800, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> commit 5681d7fb8be37771c152d21ea6e95597d664e3f1 >> Author: Tom Gundersen >> Date: Mon Jan 13 21:03:28 2014 +0100 >> >> libsystemd-dns: merge into libsyste

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2014-01-13 Thread Kay Sievers
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> libsystemd-bus: rename to libsystemd >> >> Documentation was updated to refer to either 'libsystemd' or 'sd-bus' in >> place >> of libsystemd-bus. > Eeeh, why? This new name suggests that this libary is for systemd > funct

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2014-01-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:10:20PM -0800, Tom Gundersen wrote: > commit 5681d7fb8be37771c152d21ea6e95597d664e3f1 > Author: Tom Gundersen > Date: Mon Jan 13 21:03:28 2014 +0100 > > libsystemd-dns: merge into libsystemd > > Also rename sd-dns -> sd-resolv. Looks good. > commit 0b5447