Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
Hi On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:51:18AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Lennart Poettering [2015-04-28 17:48 +0200]: >> > Hmm, so, anyone found out anything useful about this? None of the >> > links above has anything useful really. I have never seen this issue >> > myself, so I kinda am relying on input from those who experiencing >> > this. >> > >> > Is this still an issue with current, unpatched git (which has fsckd >> > removed among other changes). >> >> Good news! I restarted my Reboot Loop Smoke Test Of Doom, and git >> master indeed seems fine. So a git bisect run [1] and a few hours >> later tells me that apparently >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=6410 fixes >> this for good. Thanks to Zbigniew and Coverity! :-) > As I wrote in the commit message, I didn't see anything wrong in the > original code. But if you say it helps... I don't mind. Original code did this (simplified): msg_control = alloca(CMSG_SPACE(cred) + CMSG_SPACE(fds)); msg_controllen = CMSG_LEN(fds); ... msg_controllen += CMSG_LEN(cred); However, this is _wrong_. "msg_controllen" is the sum of all CMSG_SPACE(), not CMSG_LEN(). The latter doesn't add alignment to the length of the payload. The new code correctly uses CMSG_SPACE(), probably by accident. Thanks David ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:51:18AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hello all, > > Lennart Poettering [2015-04-28 17:48 +0200]: > > Hmm, so, anyone found out anything useful about this? None of the > > links above has anything useful really. I have never seen this issue > > myself, so I kinda am relying on input from those who experiencing > > this. > > > > Is this still an issue with current, unpatched git (which has fsckd > > removed among other changes). > > Good news! I restarted my Reboot Loop Smoke Test Of Doom, and git > master indeed seems fine. So a git bisect run [1] and a few hours > later tells me that apparently > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=6410 fixes > this for good. Thanks to Zbigniew and Coverity! :-) As I wrote in the commit message, I didn't see anything wrong in the original code. But if you say it helps... I don't mind. > Thus it seems the bug was really introduced in > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=a354329f72 and > the reverted commit > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=13790add4bf64 > merely exposed the bug as journald was (one of the) first user of fd > storage. > > Commit 6410 applies cleanly on top of v219-stable, so I replaced > our reverted patch with a backport of that fix, and successfully > re-tested a package with that. Can we get this into v219-stable? I'll push to -stable. > (FTR: This bug was reported before fsckd, so that had nothing to do > with it) > > Thanks, > > Martin (who is happy that this excruciating bug finally seems fixed) > > [1] Every time I use this a small kitten comes back to life! > > -- > Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de > Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) > ___ > systemd-devel mailing list > systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Wed, 29.04.15 11:51, Martin Pitt (martin.p...@ubuntu.com) wrote: > Hello all, > > Lennart Poettering [2015-04-28 17:48 +0200]: > > Hmm, so, anyone found out anything useful about this? None of the > > links above has anything useful really. I have never seen this issue > > myself, so I kinda am relying on input from those who experiencing > > this. > > > > Is this still an issue with current, unpatched git (which has fsckd > > removed among other changes). > > Good news! I restarted my Reboot Loop Smoke Test Of Doom, and git > master indeed seems fine. So a git bisect run [1] and a few hours > later tells me that apparently > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=6410 fixes > this for good. Thanks to Zbigniew and Coverity! :-) Ah thank you very much for tracking this down! Much appreciated! /me strikes this one of his list. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
Hello all, Lennart Poettering [2015-04-28 17:48 +0200]: > Hmm, so, anyone found out anything useful about this? None of the > links above has anything useful really. I have never seen this issue > myself, so I kinda am relying on input from those who experiencing > this. > > Is this still an issue with current, unpatched git (which has fsckd > removed among other changes). Good news! I restarted my Reboot Loop Smoke Test Of Doom, and git master indeed seems fine. So a git bisect run [1] and a few hours later tells me that apparently http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=6410 fixes this for good. Thanks to Zbigniew and Coverity! :-) Thus it seems the bug was really introduced in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=a354329f72 and the reverted commit http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=13790add4bf64 merely exposed the bug as journald was (one of the) first user of fd storage. Commit 6410 applies cleanly on top of v219-stable, so I replaced our reverted patch with a backport of that fix, and successfully re-tested a package with that. Can we get this into v219-stable? (FTR: This bug was reported before fsckd, so that had nothing to do with it) Thanks, Martin (who is happy that this excruciating bug finally seems fixed) [1] Every time I use this a small kitten comes back to life! -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Tue, 28.04.15 20:33, Tobias Hunger (tobias.hun...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi Lennart, > > I only cared since it was blocking systemd 219 in arch. I never had > any problem and assumed this was fixed since systemd 219 landed in > Arch a while back. OK, everyone who maintains this in distros, please provide me with the data i asked for below, or otherwise this issue will stay unfixed in the next release, too. Martin, any chance you can help with this? > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Sun, 12.04.15 17:58, Tobias Hunger (tobias.hun...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > >> Hi Lennart, > >> > >> I just asked about the status of this, so I have links handy: > >> > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1423811 > >> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/44016 > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=778970 > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201964 > >> > >> All of these distros currently do not ship 219 or have 219 with said > >> patch reverted. > >> > >> First referrence to the issue on this list: > >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-February/028640.html > >> > >> I was wondering about the status a couple of days ago: > >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-April/030540.html > > > > Hmm, so, anyone found out anything useful about this? None of the > > links above has anything useful really. I have never seen this issue > > myself, so I kinda am relying on input from those who experiencing > > this. > > > > Is this still an issue with current, unpatched git (which has fsckd > > removed among other changes). > > > > What precisely hangs? > > > > What's the process list if this hangs? (use the debug shell, to get this) > > > > What are the backtraces when this happens of the relevant programs? > > i.e. of PID 1, of journald, and the other processes that run in > > userspace? > > > > what does "systemctl list-jobs" show? > > > > does this happen with journald in the initrd in the same version as on > > the host? > > > > is this reproducible without initrd in the mix? > > > > Lennart > > > > -- > > Lennart Poettering, Red Hat > Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
Hi Lennart, I only cared since it was blocking systemd 219 in arch. I never had any problem and assumed this was fixed since systemd 219 landed in Arch a while back. Best Regards, Tobias On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 12.04.15 17:58, Tobias Hunger (tobias.hun...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Hi Lennart, >> >> I just asked about the status of this, so I have links handy: >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1423811 >> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/44016 >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=778970 >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201964 >> >> All of these distros currently do not ship 219 or have 219 with said >> patch reverted. >> >> First referrence to the issue on this list: >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-February/028640.html >> >> I was wondering about the status a couple of days ago: >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-April/030540.html > > Hmm, so, anyone found out anything useful about this? None of the > links above has anything useful really. I have never seen this issue > myself, so I kinda am relying on input from those who experiencing > this. > > Is this still an issue with current, unpatched git (which has fsckd > removed among other changes). > > What precisely hangs? > > What's the process list if this hangs? (use the debug shell, to get this) > > What are the backtraces when this happens of the relevant programs? > i.e. of PID 1, of journald, and the other processes that run in > userspace? > > what does "systemctl list-jobs" show? > > does this happen with journald in the initrd in the same version as on > the host? > > is this reproducible without initrd in the mix? > > Lennart > > -- > Lennart Poettering, Red Hat ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Sun, 12.04.15 17:58, Tobias Hunger (tobias.hun...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi Lennart, > > I just asked about the status of this, so I have links handy: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1423811 > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/44016 > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=778970 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201964 > > All of these distros currently do not ship 219 or have 219 with said > patch reverted. > > First referrence to the issue on this list: > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-February/028640.html > > I was wondering about the status a couple of days ago: > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-April/030540.html Hmm, so, anyone found out anything useful about this? None of the links above has anything useful really. I have never seen this issue myself, so I kinda am relying on input from those who experiencing this. Is this still an issue with current, unpatched git (which has fsckd removed among other changes). What precisely hangs? What's the process list if this hangs? (use the debug shell, to get this) What are the backtraces when this happens of the relevant programs? i.e. of PID 1, of journald, and the other processes that run in userspace? what does "systemctl list-jobs" show? does this happen with journald in the initrd in the same version as on the host? is this reproducible without initrd in the mix? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
Hi Lennart, I just asked about the status of this, so I have links handy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1423811 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/44016 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=778970 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201964 All of these distros currently do not ship 219 or have 219 with said patch reverted. First referrence to the issue on this list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-February/028640.html I was wondering about the status a couple of days ago: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-April/030540.html Best Regards, Tobias On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sat, 11.04.15 03:13, David Herrmann (dvd...@kemper.freedesktop.org) wrote: > >> Before 220: >> >> +* Figure out why 13790add4 breaks boot across all distributions. Revert it >> if >> + we cannot get it fixed. >> + > > Hmm, what's this about? Works fine here? > > Lennart > > -- > Lennart Poettering, Red Hat > ___ > systemd-devel mailing list > systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Sat, 11.04.15 03:13, David Herrmann (dvd...@kemper.freedesktop.org) wrote: > Before 220: > > +* Figure out why 13790add4 breaks boot across all distributions. Revert it if > + we cannot get it fixed. > + Hmm, what's this about? Works fine here? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO man/journalctl.xml man/sd_journal_open.xml src/journal src/libsystemd-bus src/shared src/systemd
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 01:05:33PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: > journal: add ability to browse journals of running OS containers > > This adds the new library call sd_journal_open_container() and a new > "-M" switch to journalctl. Particular care is taken that journalctl's > "-b" switch resolves to the current boot ID of the container, not the > host. For anyone reading this... In related news, 'journalctl -D /path/to/journal -b -0' also shows the "current"/last boot in the directory specified with -D. Zbyszek ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Fri, 11.01.13 21:16, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > > I mean, we have a huge amount of docs now, I somehow think that merging > > that all into one gigantic file doesn't really scale and just creates > > noise (i.e. why would you want systemd-delta's man page in your data set > > if you grep for a config setting?). So I'd rather vote for two index pages: > > > > systemd.index(1) as an index of all man pages we have (i.e. a man > > version of the HTML index we already have) > > > > systemd.config(5) as index of all configuration settings, from all > > configuration files. > What about existing systemd.directives(5)? I totally forget we already have that. It probably needs a lot of updating to be complete. And we probably should link it up at more places so that people actually get to know about it. People like me for example... ;-) Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 09:00:44PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 11.01.13 11:23, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: > > > >> List of all zsh's man pages appears on top of zshall(1) simply because > > >> it includes zsh(1) as well :) > > > > > > Uh, ah. I prefer having systemdall however as an index only. Not really > > > convinced such a merged page makes much sense for us. > > > > As Tollef said it can be quite useful. I often find myself > > half-remembering a directive and then going through each of systemd.unit > > systemd.service and systemd.exec trying to find it each time with > > variations on the name in case I'm remembering it slightly wrong. > > > > An index is useful but a single man page with everything in it what I > > can grep is really useful at times. > > Hmm, there is an item on the TODO list to have an explicit index > somewhere of all settings, with references to the various man pages we > have. I.e. something where all settings from the unit files, > logind.conf, system.conf, journal.conf and so on are listed, with > references to the actual man pages. > > I mean, we have a huge amount of docs now, I somehow think that merging > that all into one gigantic file doesn't really scale and just creates > noise (i.e. why would you want systemd-delta's man page in your data set > if you grep for a config setting?). So I'd rather vote for two index pages: > > systemd.index(1) as an index of all man pages we have (i.e. a man > version of the HTML index we already have) > > systemd.config(5) as index of all configuration settings, from all > configuration files. What about existing systemd.directives(5)? Zbyszek ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Fri, 11.01.13 11:23, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: > >> List of all zsh's man pages appears on top of zshall(1) simply because > >> it includes zsh(1) as well :) > > > > Uh, ah. I prefer having systemdall however as an index only. Not really > > convinced such a merged page makes much sense for us. > > As Tollef said it can be quite useful. I often find myself > half-remembering a directive and then going through each of systemd.unit > systemd.service and systemd.exec trying to find it each time with > variations on the name in case I'm remembering it slightly wrong. > > An index is useful but a single man page with everything in it what I > can grep is really useful at times. Hmm, there is an item on the TODO list to have an explicit index somewhere of all settings, with references to the various man pages we have. I.e. something where all settings from the unit files, logind.conf, system.conf, journal.conf and so on are listed, with references to the actual man pages. I mean, we have a huge amount of docs now, I somehow think that merging that all into one gigantic file doesn't really scale and just creates noise (i.e. why would you want systemd-delta's man page in your data set if you grep for a config setting?). So I'd rather vote for two index pages: systemd.index(1) as an index of all man pages we have (i.e. a man version of the HTML index we already have) systemd.config(5) as index of all configuration settings, from all configuration files. Does that make sense? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Thu, 10.01.13 21:17, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 08:30:53PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Thu, 10.01.13 03:30, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:10:58PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > +* add a man page "systemdall" that lists all of systemd's man pages, > > > > inspired by zsh's "zshall" page > > > > > > Shouldn't just make-man-index.py be tweaked to generate .xml instead > > > (like make-directive-index.py) ? > > > > Interesting idea, I like it. But maybe for the man page we want slightly > > more info included than the HTML index has, for example the NAME section > > of the man pages? > Hm, isn't NAME section already included in index.html? Oh, indeed. Not sure what I was thinking > > Btw, systemd(1) is already taken, so systemd.all (or systemdall) it'll > have to be. Maybe systemd.index? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
В Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:23:41 + Colin Guthrie пишет: > 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 10/01/13 19:29 did gyre and gimble: > > On Thu, 10.01.13 21:06, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > >> В Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:30:53 +0100 > >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek пишет: > >> > >>> On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:10:58PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: > +* add a man page "systemdall" that lists all of systemd's man pages, > inspired by zsh's "zshall" page > >>> > >>> Shouldn't just make-man-index.py be tweaked to generate .xml instead > >>> (like make-directive-index.py) ? > >>> > >> > >> zshall(1) does not actually "lists all of zsh's man pages". This is > >> what zsh(1) does. zshall(1) actually includes all of zsh man pages, > >> making it one bug large man page similar to bash. > >> > >> List of all zsh's man pages appears on top of zshall(1) simply because > >> it includes zsh(1) as well :) > > > > Uh, ah. I prefer having systemdall however as an index only. Not really > > convinced such a merged page makes much sense for us. > > As Tollef said it can be quite useful. I often find myself > half-remembering a directive and then going through each of systemd.unit > systemd.service and systemd.exec trying to find it each time with > variations on the name in case I'm remembering it slightly wrong. > > An index is useful but a single man page with everything in it what I > can grep is really useful at times. > systemd.info with index of all directives sounds even better ... not sure how easy it is to generate it from man systemd sources. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 10/01/13 19:29 did gyre and gimble: > On Thu, 10.01.13 21:06, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> В Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:30:53 +0100 >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek пишет: >> >>> On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:10:58PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: +* add a man page "systemdall" that lists all of systemd's man pages, inspired by zsh's "zshall" page >>> >>> Shouldn't just make-man-index.py be tweaked to generate .xml instead >>> (like make-directive-index.py) ? >>> >> >> zshall(1) does not actually "lists all of zsh's man pages". This is >> what zsh(1) does. zshall(1) actually includes all of zsh man pages, >> making it one bug large man page similar to bash. >> >> List of all zsh's man pages appears on top of zshall(1) simply because >> it includes zsh(1) as well :) > > Uh, ah. I prefer having systemdall however as an index only. Not really > convinced such a merged page makes much sense for us. As Tollef said it can be quite useful. I often find myself half-remembering a directive and then going through each of systemd.unit systemd.service and systemd.exec trying to find it each time with variations on the name in case I'm remembering it slightly wrong. An index is useful but a single man page with everything in it what I can grep is really useful at times. Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/ Open Source: Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/ PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/ Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/ ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
]] Lennart Poettering > Uh, ah. I prefer having systemdall however as an index only. Not really > convinced such a merged page makes much sense for us. That doesn't sound like systemdall, it sounds like systemd(7). The useful thing about zshall (and by extension systemdall) is it's more greppable than a zillion smaller pages. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 09:30:02PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Jan 10, 2013 9:17 PM, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 08:30:53PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Thu, 10.01.13 03:30, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:10:58PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > +* add a man page "systemdall" that lists all of systemd's man > pages, inspired by zsh's "zshall" page > > > > > > > > Shouldn't just make-man-index.py be tweaked to generate .xml instead > > > > (like make-directive-index.py) ? > > > > > > Interesting idea, I like it. But maybe for the man page we want slightly > > > more info included than the HTML index has, for example the NAME section > > > of the man pages? > > Hm, isn't NAME section already included in index.html? > > > > Btw, systemd(1) is already taken, so systemd.all (or systemdall) it'll > > have to be. > > How about making it part of systemd(1)? The list is now >200 items long. But I guess that if it landed in 'SEE ALSO' in systemd(1), that could work. Zbyszek ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 08:30:53PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 10.01.13 03:30, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:10:58PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > +* add a man page "systemdall" that lists all of systemd's man pages, > > > inspired by zsh's "zshall" page > > > > Shouldn't just make-man-index.py be tweaked to generate .xml instead > > (like make-directive-index.py) ? > > Interesting idea, I like it. But maybe for the man page we want slightly > more info included than the HTML index has, for example the NAME section > of the man pages? Hm, isn't NAME section already included in index.html? Btw, systemd(1) is already taken, so systemd.all (or systemdall) it'll have to be. Zbyszek ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Thu, 10.01.13 03:30, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:10:58PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > +* add a man page "systemdall" that lists all of systemd's man pages, > > inspired by zsh's "zshall" page > > Shouldn't just make-man-index.py be tweaked to generate .xml instead > (like make-directive-index.py) ? Interesting idea, I like it. But maybe for the man page we want slightly more info included than the HTML index has, for example the NAME section of the man pages? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Thu, 10.01.13 21:06, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: > В Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:30:53 +0100 > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek пишет: > > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:10:58PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > +* add a man page "systemdall" that lists all of systemd's man pages, > > > inspired by zsh's "zshall" page > > > > Shouldn't just make-man-index.py be tweaked to generate .xml instead > > (like make-directive-index.py) ? > > > > zshall(1) does not actually "lists all of zsh's man pages". This is > what zsh(1) does. zshall(1) actually includes all of zsh man pages, > making it one bug large man page similar to bash. > > List of all zsh's man pages appears on top of zshall(1) simply because > it includes zsh(1) as well :) Uh, ah. I prefer having systemdall however as an index only. Not really convinced such a merged page makes much sense for us. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
В Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:30:53 +0100 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek пишет: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:10:58PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > +* add a man page "systemdall" that lists all of systemd's man pages, > > inspired by zsh's "zshall" page > > Shouldn't just make-man-index.py be tweaked to generate .xml instead > (like make-directive-index.py) ? > zshall(1) does not actually "lists all of zsh's man pages". This is what zsh(1) does. zshall(1) actually includes all of zsh man pages, making it one bug large man page similar to bash. List of all zsh's man pages appears on top of zshall(1) simply because it includes zsh(1) as well :) ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] TODO
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:10:58PM -0800, Lennart Poettering wrote: > +* add a man page "systemdall" that lists all of systemd's man pages, > inspired by zsh's "zshall" page Shouldn't just make-man-index.py be tweaked to generate .xml instead (like make-directive-index.py) ? Zbyszek ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
