On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 06:44, Ulrich Windl
wrote:
> Also you have to distinguish hating a product from hating some individual
> person, and "all the" time is definitely an exaggeration.
>
That distinction is very hard for the persons that spend a lot of their
time and money into making the produc
>>> Lennart Poettering schrieb am 29.08.2019 um 16:13
in
Nachricht <20190829141317.GB9510@gardel-login>:
[...]
> However, you are coming to this mailing list, in search for free
> support, and just dump insults and hate mails onto our doorstep, all
> the time. It's just massively annoying. Can't y
On Do, 29.08.19 08:19, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote:
> >
> > # After editing this file, run 'systemctl daemon‑reload' to update systemd
> > # units generated from this file.
> >
> >
>
> Unfortunately it's only half of the truth: Even if you do not modify
> /etc/fstab, b
Am 29.08.19 um 08:19 schrieb Ulrich Windl:
> I really don't understand what "unload this on our doorstep" means: Bring a
> common problem to your attention, while you consider any problems to be the
> user's fault?
at least you understand when you come up with "that's why i hate
systemd" and sim
>>> Lennart Poettering schrieb am 28.08.2019 um 14:41
in
Nachricht <20190828124149.GA8141@gardel-login>:
> On Mi, 28.08.19 09:33, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni‑regensburg.de)
wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> systemd in SLES 12 is causing endless frustration here:
>>
>> Yesterday I was migrating some fil
Am 28.08.19 um 19:11 schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
> The problem is that systemd is used to do things it was never intended
> to do.
>
> systemd was created to do one and only one single task - start static
> list of services during system boot (and stop them during shutdown but
> that is complement
28.08.2019 11:38, Ulrich Windl пишет:
>
> Some design concepts in systemd are just insane, the fstab issue being a good
> example for that.
>
The problem is that systemd is used to do things it was never intended
to do.
systemd was created to do one and only one single task - start static
list
Ulrich,
I also wasn't happy when SLES switched to systemd because it meant
that I had to learn a lot of new stuff and forget many of the
knowledge that I head collected over the years for system V.
But before I switched all my SLES/D 11 systems to SLE 12 I ran
a test host for about half a year t
>>> Frans de Boer schrieb am 28.08.2019 um 11:24 in Nachricht
<46281377-9749-7f60-f818-fa8b5d3f4...@fransdb.nl>:
[...]
>>> That is why I hate systemd!
>> believe it: systemd hates you too
Yeah, I feel it was written especially for me! ;-)
[...]
> righteous posture of some people, just because t
Am 28.08.19 um 10:38 schrieb Ulrich Windl:
> So far the time systemd saves during boot or shutdown is in no reasonable
> proportion to the many hours of extra work it caused for the administrator
> (me)
> to get a system up that systemd downed.
but the problem here is you and not systemd
* yo
>>> František Šumšal schrieb am 28.08.2019 um 10:18 in
Nachricht :
> On 8/28/19 9:33 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> systemd in SLES 12 is causing endless frustration here:
>>
>> Yesterday I was migrating some filesystems to a new device (multipath,
> MD-RAID, LVM, filesystem, mountpoints,
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