Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Arbitrary restrictions (e.g. for RuntimeDirectory)

2019-05-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.05.19 um 08:35 schrieb Ulrich Windl: >> stop it - if you would have read IT news (golem/heise) the last 7 years >> or so you would know about /run and why it is a top-directory >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard >> >> /run >> >> Run-time variable data:

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Arbitrary restrictions (e.g. for RuntimeDirectory)

2019-05-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 14.05.19 16:07, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote: > Hmm, like this:? > > systemd-analyze verify /run/systemd/generator.late/iotwatch.target > Failed to open /dev/tty0: Permission denied This is mostly a cosmetical message you can safely ignore. Moreover this has

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Arbitrary restrictions (e.g. for RuntimeDirectory)

2019-05-14 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> František Šumšal schrieb am 14.05.2019 um 15:46 in Nachricht : > On 5/14/19 8:39 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote: > František Šumšal schrieb am 13.05.2019 um 17:13 in >> Nachricht <064ac942-a4d7-b547-0705-22f3262f5...@sumsal.cz>: >>> On 5/13/19 8:20 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote: >>> >>> That's actually

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Arbitrary restrictions (e.g. for RuntimeDirectory)

2019-05-14 Thread František Šumšal
On 5/14/19 8:39 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote: František Šumšal schrieb am 13.05.2019 um 17:13 in > Nachricht <064ac942-a4d7-b547-0705-22f3262f5...@sumsal.cz>: >> On 5/13/19 8:20 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote: >> >> That's actually not true. The argument for `systemd-analyze verify` is a >> file name, >>

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Arbitrary restrictions (e.g. for RuntimeDirectory)

2019-05-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 14.05.19 08:35, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote: > >>> Reindl Harald schrieb am 13.05.2019 um 08:25 in > Nachricht <19612492-4b1e-0d87-5360-a67893873...@thelounge.net>: > > > > > Am 13.05.19 um 08:20 schrieb Ulrich Windl: > >>> Note that "/var/run" is a legacy alias

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Arbitrary restrictions (e.g. for RuntimeDirectory)

2019-05-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello all, Ulrich Windl [2019-05-14 8:35 +0200]: > I knew that. It doesn't answer _why_ /var/run is obsolete. The short reason is that /var can be on a separate partition, so it's not available during early mount or late shutdown, or in a rescue environment with only the root fs mounted. Some

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Arbitrary restrictions (e.g. for RuntimeDirectory)

2019-05-14 Thread Andrei Borzenkov
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:35 AM Ulrich Windl wrote: > > I knew that. It doesn't answer _why_ /var/run is obsolete. > /var/run needs /var which is not guaranteed to be there when you need it which complicates things. ___ systemd-devel mailing list

[systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Arbitrary restrictions (e.g. for RuntimeDirectory)

2019-05-14 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> František Šumšal schrieb am 13.05.2019 um 17:13 in Nachricht <064ac942-a4d7-b547-0705-22f3262f5...@sumsal.cz>: > On 5/13/19 8:20 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote: > >>> "systemd‑analyze verify" exists. Since a long long time. >> >> Not really: You can't verify a unit file while it's not "installed".

[systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Arbitrary restrictions (e.g. for RuntimeDirectory)

2019-05-14 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> Reindl Harald schrieb am 13.05.2019 um 08:25 in Nachricht <19612492-4b1e-0d87-5360-a67893873...@thelounge.net>: > > Am 13.05.19 um 08:20 schrieb Ulrich Windl: >>> Note that "/var/run" is a legacy alias for "/run". It's highly >>> recommended not to use the former anymore. >> >> It it