Re: [systemd-devel] Configurability for systemd logging API

2015-07-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 30.07.15 08:16, SF Markus Elfring (elfr...@users.sourceforge.net) wrote:

> >> Such messages correspond to specific data structures.
> >> * The log origin and log level are repeated there while the recorded
> >>   information might occasionally not be detailed enough.
> >>   I find that such details can be better handled by the software build 
> >> system.
> …
> > I appreciate you wanting to help, but this is not helpful.
> 
> Thanks for your feedback.
> 
> 
> > Please post patches if you have suggestions for improvements.
> 
> I find that the change acceptance is unclear for fine-tuning of this software
> also around message log programming interfaces.
> Which design approaches do you find acceptable for further considerations?

I am sorry, I am sure you are trying to be helpful, but at this point
this is just not funny anymore, you are just raising the noise level,
stealing our time.

You are now on moderation. Sorry for having to do that. But even
though we asked you to provide explicit patches or explicit bug
reports you keep contributing only vague noise, and that's just time
consuming to deal with.

Sorry,

Lennart
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Re: [systemd-devel] Configurability for systemd logging API

2015-07-30 Thread SF Markus Elfring
>> I find that the change acceptance is unclear for fine-tuning of this software
>> also around message log programming interfaces.
>> Which design approaches do you find acceptable for further considerations?
> 
> Sorry, I really can't follow.

How do you generally think about any further fine-tuning of function calls
for logging purposes?


> If you post a patch we can take it from there.

My suggestion is not ready yet to be transformed into this format.

Would it make sense to extend logging parameters for the software build system?
Which extensions can be integrated into a build script like "configure.ac"?

Regards,
Markus
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Re: [systemd-devel] Configurability for systemd logging API

2015-07-30 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:16 AM, SF Markus Elfring
 wrote:
>>> Such messages correspond to specific data structures.
>>> * The log origin and log level are repeated there while the recorded
>>>   information might occasionally not be detailed enough.
>>>   I find that such details can be better handled by the software build 
>>> system.
> …
>> I appreciate you wanting to help, but this is not helpful.
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
>
>> Please post patches if you have suggestions for improvements.
>
> I find that the change acceptance is unclear for fine-tuning of this software
> also around message log programming interfaces.
> Which design approaches do you find acceptable for further considerations?

Sorry, I really can't follow. If you post a patch we can take it from there.

Cheers,

Tom
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Re: [systemd-devel] Configurability for systemd logging API

2015-07-29 Thread SF Markus Elfring
>> Such messages correspond to specific data structures.
>> * The log origin and log level are repeated there while the recorded
>>   information might occasionally not be detailed enough.
>>   I find that such details can be better handled by the software build 
>> system.
…
> I appreciate you wanting to help, but this is not helpful.

Thanks for your feedback.


> Please post patches if you have suggestions for improvements.

I find that the change acceptance is unclear for fine-tuning of this software
also around message log programming interfaces.
Which design approaches do you find acceptable for further considerations?

Regards,
Markus
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Re: [systemd-devel] Configurability for systemd logging API

2015-07-29 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi Markus,

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:54 PM, SF Markus Elfring
 wrote:
> Programs from the systemd software library output also some log messages
> as it is usual for such server applications.
>
> Such messages correspond to specific data structures.
> * The log origin and log level are repeated there while the recorded
>   information might occasionally not be detailed enough.
>   I find that such details can be better handled by the software build system.
>
> * The involved text repetition results in improvement possibilities
>   depending on preferred design directions.
>   Some substrings could be eventually shared between message variants
>   if this aspect can be selected as an optimisation goal
>   for the corresponding generation of executable software.
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_common_subsequence_problem

I appreciate you wanting to help, but this is not helpful. Please post
patches if you have suggestions for improvements.

Cheers,

Tom
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[systemd-devel] Configurability for systemd logging API

2015-07-29 Thread SF Markus Elfring
Hello,

Programs from the systemd software library output also some log messages
as it is usual for such server applications.

Such messages correspond to specific data structures.
* The log origin and log level are repeated there while the recorded
  information might occasionally not be detailed enough.
  I find that such details can be better handled by the software build system.

* The involved text repetition results in improvement possibilities
  depending on preferred design directions.
  Some substrings could be eventually shared between message variants
  if this aspect can be selected as an optimisation goal
  for the corresponding generation of executable software.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_common_subsequence_problem

Regards,
Markus
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