Re: [systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-05 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 16:52 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 04.11.13 16:10, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote: And I figure other ones to add here are: - mandb cache cleanups - rotation of legacy log files (are there more usecases you can come up with?)

Re: [systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-04 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/03/2013 02:36 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: In addition to that, would it make sense for distributions to start porting their cron jobs to use systemd? in Fedora we already have started that migration process for relevant units ( not all packages that contain ron jobs should be/will be

Re: [systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 03.11.13 15:36, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote: Heya, systemd already allows launching specific tasks based on a timer, and intervals, and I was wondering whether power awareness was something planned for launching and stopping units. MacOS X 10.9 has some additional

Re: [systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-04 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 15:27 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sun, 03.11.13 15:36, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote: Heya, systemd already allows launching specific tasks based on a timer, and intervals, and I was wondering whether power awareness was something planned for

Re: [systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 04.11.13 16:10, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote: And I figure other ones to add here are: - mandb cache cleanups - rotation of legacy log files (are there more usecases you can come up with?) All these are exclusively cronjobs, i.e. services triggered only by

Re: [systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-04 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Monday 2013-11-04 16:52, Lennart Poettering wrote: Those _were_ all cron jobs. I don't think that any of those should be cron jobs, especially the 4 AM update-db or man-db runs. Anacron is just patching over the fact that most machines aren't running at that time of day. Well, but if

[systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
Heya, systemd already allows launching specific tasks based on a timer, and intervals, and I was wondering whether power awareness was something planned for launching and stopping units. MacOS X 10.9 has some additional metadata for units that allows launchd to stop and start particular tasks

Re: [systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-03 Thread Kay Sievers
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: systemd already allows launching specific tasks based on a timer, and intervals, and I was wondering whether power awareness was something planned for launching and stopping units. MacOS X 10.9 has some additional

Re: [systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 16:06 +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: systemd already allows launching specific tasks based on a timer, and intervals, and I was wondering whether power awareness was something planned for launching and

Re: [systemd-devel] Power aware units

2013-11-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 17:07 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: snip Systemd should not get any direct or indirect dependency on upower for primary service management tasks. It just doesn't sound right to do dependencies in this direction. That doesn't strike me as as crazy as it may seem.