Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-12-10 Thread Andy Lutomirski
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Jiri Kosina jkos...@suse.cz wrote: On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, David Herrmann wrote: Agreed, mostly. My only real

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-12-09 Thread Andy Lutomirski
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Jiri Kosina jkos...@suse.cz wrote: On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, David Herrmann wrote: Agreed, mostly. My only real concern is that this could be annoying for the userspace developers who

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-03 Thread David Herrmann
Hi On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: I want to get U2F (universal second factor, sometimes called security key or even gnubby) working on Linux. U2F tokens are HID devices that speak a custom protocol. The intent is that user code will speak to then

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-03 Thread Andy Lutomirski
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM, David Herrmann dh.herrm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: I want to get U2F (universal second factor, sometimes called security key or even gnubby) working on Linux. U2F tokens are HID devices

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-03 Thread David Herrmann
Hi On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM, David Herrmann dh.herrm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: I want to get U2F (universal second factor, sometimes

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-03 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, David Herrmann wrote: Agreed, mostly. My only real concern is that this could be annoying for the userspace developers who will need to target Linux and HIDAPI separately. Admittedly the Linux support will be trivial. I see. I'll not stop you from using hidraw, I'd

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-03 Thread Andy Lutomirski
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Jiri Kosina jkos...@suse.cz wrote: On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, David Herrmann wrote: Agreed, mostly. My only real concern is that this could be annoying for the userspace developers who will need to target Linux and HIDAPI separately. Admittedly the Linux support

[systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Andy Lutomirski
I want to get U2F (universal second factor, sometimes called security key or even gnubby) working on Linux. U2F tokens are HID devices that speak a custom protocol. The intent is that user code will speak to then using something like HIDAPI. The trick is that, for HIDAPI to work, something

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014, Andy Lutomirski wrote: I want to get U2F (universal second factor, sometimes called security key or even gnubby) working on Linux. U2F tokens are HID devices that speak a custom protocol. The intent is that user code will speak to then using something like HIDAPI. The

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi Andy, On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: I want to get U2F (universal second factor, sometimes called security key or even gnubby) working on Linux. U2F tokens are HID devices that speak a custom protocol. The intent is that user code will speak to

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Andy Lutomirski
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Jiri Kosina jkos...@suse.cz wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2014, Andy Lutomirski wrote: I want to get U2F (universal second factor, sometimes called security key or even gnubby) working on Linux. U2F tokens are HID devices that speak a custom protocol. The intent is

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Andy Lutomirski
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: Hi Andy, On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: I want to get U2F (universal second factor, sometimes called security key or even gnubby) working on Linux. U2F tokens are HID devices that

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014, Andy Lutomirski wrote: Hmmm ... please keep in mind that report_descriptor is actually in debugfs, so it's a bit questionable whether you can rely on it being present on well-defined location on all systems. Huh? I have

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014, Jiri Kosina wrote: Alternatively, you can just write udev rule which triggers on HID devices, issues HIDIOCGRDESC ioctl() on the just-created hidraw node, and decides afterwards whether node permissions need to be altered ... right? Just to make myself clear here -- this

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: Hi Andy, On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: I want to get U2F (universal second factor, sometimes called

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Andy Lutomirski
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Benjamin Tissoires benjamin.tissoi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Jiri Kosina jkos...@suse.cz wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2014, Jiri Kosina wrote: Alternatively, you can just write udev rule which triggers on HID devices, issues HIDIOCGRDESC

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Benjamin Tissoires
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Benjamin Tissoires benjamin.tissoi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Jiri Kosina jkos...@suse.cz wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2014, Jiri Kosina wrote: Alternatively, you can

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Andy Lutomirski
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Benjamin Tissoires benjamin.tissoi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Benjamin Tissoires benjamin.tissoi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Jiri Kosina

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Benjamin Tissoires
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Benjamin Tissoires benjamin.tissoi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Benjamin Tissoires

Re: [systemd-devel] Supporting U2F over HID on Linux?

2014-11-02 Thread Andy Lutomirski
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Benjamin Tissoires benjamin.tissoi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Andy Lutomirski l...@amacapital.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Benjamin Tissoires benjamin.tissoi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Andy