Re: [systemd-devel] We are working on trying to scale up to > 1000 containers.

2013-06-24 Thread David Strauss
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:55 AM, David Strauss wrote: > For example, you certainly wouldn't want the box to go into swap because of > start-up allocation spikes. I should clarify: that's not a context-switching example. It's just another case where throttling might help. -- David Strauss | da

Re: [systemd-devel] We are working on trying to scale up to > 1000 containers.

2013-06-24 Thread David Strauss
In our case, the issue wasn't kernel process creation; it was the CPU and I/O overhead of service start-up. At some point, the system gets dominated by context-switching, and throughput suffers. For example, you certainly wouldn't want the box to go into swap because of start-up allocation spikes.

Re: [systemd-devel] We are working on trying to scale up to > 1000 containers.

2013-06-20 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 18.06.13 09:11, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> One concern we have is what will happen to systemd if we start 1000 services >> at boot. >> >> systemctl start httpd_sandbox.target >> >> For example. >> >> Is there

Re: [systemd-devel] We are working on trying to scale up to > 1000 containers.

2013-06-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 18.06.13 09:11, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: > One concern we have is what will happen to systemd if we start 1000 services > at boot. > > systemctl start httpd_sandbox.target > > For example. > > Is there anything we can do to throttle the start of so many unit files. Or

Re: [systemd-devel] We are working on trying to scale up to > 1000 containers.

2013-06-18 Thread David Strauss
We have machines with thousands of containers on them. The key for us was understanding that we didn't need thousands of containers to run after start-up; we needed thousands of containers to be *accessible* after start-up. The vast majority of our containers use socket activation or "resurrection"

[systemd-devel] We are working on trying to scale up to > 1000 containers.

2013-06-18 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 One concern we have is what will happen to systemd if we start 1000 services at boot. systemctl start httpd_sandbox.target For example. Is there anything we can do to throttle the start of so many unit files. Or would systemd do something itself.