Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On So, 06.09.20 23:28, Alexander E. Patrakov (patra...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > But surely a boot loader of all things should never try to write to the > > > place it is loading from? Booting should be idempotent (as long as it > > > works, for sure). The only sane policy would seem to be that the

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-07 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 9:28 PM Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 3:12 AM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > > > On Fr, 04.09.20 21:41, Dave Howorth (syst...@howorth.org.uk) wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:44:23 +0200 > > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > On Fr,

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-06 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 3:12 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Fr, 04.09.20 21:41, Dave Howorth (syst...@howorth.org.uk) wrote: > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:44:23 +0200 > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Fr, 04.09.20 17:10, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > > > > > > > No,

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 04.09.20 21:41, Dave Howorth (syst...@howorth.org.uk) wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:44:23 +0200 > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Fr, 04.09.20 17:10, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > > > > > No, that's not supported in sd-boot. A boot loader is a boot > > > > loader, it

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-04 Thread Dave Howorth
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 17:44:23 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fr, 04.09.20 17:10, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > > > No, that's not supported in sd-boot. A boot loader is a boot > > > loader, it should contain a fragile storage stack. It's kinda > > > what sd-boot is

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.09.20 um 17:44 schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Fr, 04.09.20 17:10, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > >>> No, that's not supported in sd-boot. A boot loader is a boot loader, >>> it should contain a fragile storage stack. It's kinda what sd-boot is >>> supposed to do better

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 04.09.20 17:10, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > No, that's not supported in sd-boot. A boot loader is a boot loader, > > it should contain a fragile storage stack. It's kinda what sd-boot is > > supposed to do better than grub. > > well, a boot loader should just *load*

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.09.20 um 16:58 schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Mo, 22.06.20 16:01, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > >> what is the best way to get a Fedora using legacy-boot to UEFI and at >> the same time switch from grub2 to systemd-boot? >> >> * how to get in installed from a live-iso

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 22.06.20 16:01, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > what is the best way to get a Fedora using legacy-boot to UEFI and at > the same time switch from grub2 to systemd-boot? > > * how to get in installed from a live-iso to > the existing setup on disk > * how to get the config

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-09-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 22.06.20 18:21, Mantas Mikulėnas (graw...@gmail.com) wrote: > > can /boot holding the kernel itself still be a Linux RAID1 or classical > > ext4 partition or is it required that the kernel and initrd live on the > > EFI partition too? > > For systemd-boot, the kernel is required to be on

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-07-06 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 18:03, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > Am 22.06.20 um 17:21 schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas: > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 5:01 PM Reindl Harald > > wrote: > > > > what is the best way to get a Fedora using legacy-boot to UEFI and at > > the same

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-06-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.06.20 um 17:21 schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 5:01 PM Reindl Harald > wrote: > > what is the best way to get a Fedora using legacy-boot to UEFI and at > the same time switch from grub2 to systemd-boot? > > > This isn't a

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-06-22 Thread Michał Zegan
The thing that loads kernel and initramfs must itself be able to read the fs, and systemd-boot delegates to uefi for that. So things should be in ESP or you should use grub2 on uefi too and have the grub image itself on ESP only. Not sure about the current required partition structure I.E. where

Re: [systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-06-22 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 5:01 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > what is the best way to get a Fedora using legacy-boot to UEFI and at > the same time switch from grub2 to systemd-boot? > This isn't a Fedora mailing list? > can /boot holding the kernel itself still be a Linux RAID1 or classical > ext4

[systemd-devel] howto switch from grub2-bios to systemd-boot

2020-06-22 Thread Reindl Harald
what is the best way to get a Fedora using legacy-boot to UEFI and at the same time switch from grub2 to systemd-boot? * how to get in installed from a live-iso to the existing setup on disk * how to get the config files right at the first try * how does it work with kernel-updates * how to get