[systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s (was: Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?)

2011-05-09 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Montag, den 09.05.2011, 20:04 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering:

[…]

 We can now boot a reasonably complete GNOME userspace in less than
 1s.

Is there a demo image for that? What are the hardware specs?

Will you be on the LinuxTag? coreboot will be demoing systems, e. g.,
Lenovo X60/T60, where hardware initialization is also done in less than
one second [1]. Maybe we could demo a system with less than two seconds
from button push to a GNOME system? That would be good publicity.

[…]


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://www.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2011-May/064913.html


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Re: [systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s (was: Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?)

2011-05-09 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Paul Menzel
paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

 Am Montag, den 09.05.2011, 20:04 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering:

 […]

  We can now boot a reasonably complete GNOME userspace in less than
  1s.

 Is there a demo image for that? What are the hardware specs?

 Will you be on the LinuxTag? coreboot will be demoing systems, e. g.,
 Lenovo X60/T60, where hardware initialization is also done in less than
 one second [1]. Maybe we could demo a system with less than two seconds
 from button push to a GNOME system? That would be good publicity.

 […]

If you want to be fast, then I can help you with E17 setup, it's
faster than starting GNOME by a great margin ;-)

All I'd ask you is an SSD to make it faster, since loading stuff from
disk takes time. But that's not mandatory. Software stack just use
slim (DM,  in autologin mode) with standard Enlightenment E17 (if you
get it from SVN we collapsed/merged some modules/.so so it's even
faster as there is less runtime work).

I'll not be at LinuxTag, but I'll ask other developers and will let you know.

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Re: [systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s (was: Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?)

2011-05-09 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote:
  We can now boot a reasonably complete GNOME userspace in less than
  1s.
 
 Is there a demo image for that? What are the hardware specs?

Yes, a short and sweet way to reproduce these results would be
lovely. I was hoping to build a userspace with systemd for the
machines, but have not found time yet. It would be an impressive
demo. (We have Thinkpad X60, T60 and an AMD Fusion board.)

If it helps I'll gladly use sneakernet for file transfer.


//Peter


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Re: [systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s (was: Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?)

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 21:29, Paul Menzel (paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net) wrote:

 Am Montag, den 09.05.2011, 20:04 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
 
 […]
 
  We can now boot a reasonably complete GNOME userspace in less than
  1s.
 
 Is there a demo image for that? What are the hardware specs?

No image. Measured on Kay's X300 (a few years old) with SSD, a few weeks
ago. It's a OpenSUSE with a number of fixes and cleanups.

Note that these results are fluctuating. i.e. you won't get the exact
same results on each boot. Also: by bringing up userspace I was simply
referring to the time systemd spends doing that. What the services still
do is ignored by this value. it's just that systemd goes idle, and its
queues are empty and fully dispatched.

 Will you be on the LinuxTag? coreboot will be demoing systems, e. g.,
 Lenovo X60/T60, where hardware initialization is also done in less than
 one second [1]. Maybe we could demo a system with less than two seconds
 from button push to a GNOME system? That would be good publicity.

I'll be at LinuxTag, I live in Berlin. But quite frankly I won't have
the time to do spend time on that, sorry.

Lennart

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