Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units -- version 2

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: >$ cat .config/systemd/user/gnome-session.target >[Unit] >Description=User systemd services for GNOME graphical session >Requires=graphical.target >PartOf=graphical.target > Is not this redundant?

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

Jan Alexander Steffens wrote on 06/07/16 10:44: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:51 AM Colin Guthrie > wrote: > > Martin Pitt wrote on 04/07/16 23:08: > >> > Why would you call it graphical-<$DE>.slice as opposed to > simply <$DE>.slice

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units -- version 2

Hello all, Colin, Jan, Zbigniew, thanks for your input! Based on that I have an updated proposal. Jan Alexander Steffens [2016-07-06 9:44 +]: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:51 AM Colin Guthrie wrote: > > Not commenting on the general approach (which I did read and

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

Martin Pitt [2016-07-06 13:47 +0200]: > I have a gut feeling that this should be expressible with systemd > dependencies -- i. e. "if gnome-session.service stops, then stop > gnome-session.target". Naïvely this would be > "PartOf=gnome-session.target" in gnome-session.service, but this does > not

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

Simon McVittie [2016-07-05 10:27 +0100]: > On 04/07/16 21:01, Martin Pitt wrote: > > A session type like "GNOME" or "KDE" then defines which top-level > > servcies it wants. > > Could this be done by having the .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions > or /usr/share/wayland-sessions start an

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:50 PM Martin Pitt wrote: > Martin Pitt [2016-07-06 13:47 +0200]: > > I have a gut feeling that this should be expressible with systemd > > dependencies -- i. e. "if gnome-session.service stops, then stop > > gnome-session.target". Naïvely this

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:21 PM Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > It's questionable if such application should reside in upstream systemd > since arguably systemd should have never created the graphical.target to > begin with ( if it had not we probably would not be having this

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units -- version 3, now working!

Andrei Borzenkov [2016-07-06 14:44 +0300]: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: > >$ cat .config/systemd/user/gnome-session.target > >[Unit] > >Description=User systemd services for GNOME graphical session > >Requires=graphical.target > >

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

Martin Pitt [2016-07-06 13:47 +0200]: > Simon McVittie [2016-07-05 10:27 +0100]: > > Could this be done by having the .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions > > or /usr/share/wayland-sessions start an appropriate systemd user unit > > directly, and wait for it to terminate? > > There is currently

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

Hello Jan, Jan Alexander Steffens [2016-07-06 11:57 +]: > Note that systemd makes a difference between "gnome-session.service became > inactive" and "gnome-session.service gets stopped". A service terminating > by itself is the former. > > Requires= and PartOf= will only propagate the

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

On 07/06/2016 02:34 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: This /usr/lib/systemd/user/graphical.target (and only that)*does* belong in to systemd, as it cannot sensibly be in any gnome-session/mate-session/kde-session/etc. package -- it's a shared resource/synchronization point between all of those. Having a

Re: [systemd-devel] How to set a limit for mounting roofs?

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:36 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: >> I figure it would be OK to merge a patch that makes the udev rules >> above set SYSTEMD_READY immediately if the device popped up

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Re: [systemd-devel] How to set a limit for mounting roofs?

Am Wed, 6 Jul 2016 06:21:17 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering : > On Mon, 04.07.16 12:32, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > I have a system where I get an indefinite > > > > "A start job is running for dev-vda2.device (xmin ys / no limit)" > > > > Is

Re: [systemd-devel] How to set a limit for mounting roofs?

Am Wed, 6 Jul 2016 06:26:03 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering : > On Tue, 05.07.16 14:00, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Chris Murphy > > wrote: > > > OK it must be this. > > > > > > :/# cat

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Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

Hello Jóhann, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson [2016-07-06 15:23 +]: > What I'm ( poorly ) trying to say is that you will need to make a clear > distinction of naming on the type units for the desktop environment and the > type units for the desktop environment user I don't understand the distinction

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

># gnome-user-graphical.target > >[Unit] >Description=User systemd services for graphical session >StopWhenUnneeded=yes So this is just another name for "my" gnome.target/gnome-session.target. As I said I'm not too fussed about how we name those, we should just decide about some convention.

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

Jóhann B. Guðmundsson [2016-07-06 14:02 +]: > Martin is proposing changes to and dependency's on the graphical.target I'm not changing anything. graphical.target as it exists in systemd today is for the *system* instance. I'm talking about the *user* instance, which has no graphical.target at

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

On 07/06/2016 12:51 PM, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:21 PM Jóhann B. Guðmundsson > wrote: It's questionable if such application should reside in upstream systemd since arguably systemd should have never created

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Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

Martin Pitt wrote on 04/07/16 23:08: >> > Why would you call it graphical-<$DE>.slice as opposed to simply >> > <$DE>.slice >> > which is part of the <$DE>.target and graphical target is link to that >> > <$DE>.target ( if shipped upstream it needs to be generic enough to cater >> > whatever is

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Re: [systemd-devel] How to set a limit for mounting roofs?

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 05.07.16 14:00, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Chris Murphy >> wrote: >> > OK it must be this. >> > >> > :/# cat

Re: [systemd-devel] Standardizing names for graphical session units

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:51 AM Colin Guthrie wrote: > Martin Pitt wrote on 04/07/16 23:08: > >> > Why would you call it graphical-<$DE>.slice as opposed to simply > <$DE>.slice > >> > which is part of the <$DE>.target and graphical target is link to that > >> >