Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd on by default?

2014-02-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.02.2014 04:41, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 04:00:10AM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: systemd-networkd seems to get started by default in 209. Why is this? What if I don't want to use it to manage my networks? Why does it have to be on by default? I

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd on by default?

2014-02-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.02.2014 16:44, schrieb Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Reindl Harald at 21/02/14 08:45 did gyre and gimble: Am 21.02.2014 04:41, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 04:00:10AM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: systemd-networkd seems to get started by default

Re: [systemd-devel] Forwarding logs to another systems journal

2014-03-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.03.2014 20:54, schrieb Anand Neeli: I have multiple systems, How do i forward logs from one system running systemd-journald to another remote systems journal service, so that all the logs are stored on a centralized machine. that's not the job of journald and falls into the use-case

Re: [systemd-devel] How to manually set service in failed state

2014-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2014 22:59, schrieb Usman: I am trying to test some code with respect to my services setup. I have two services, lets say service_a and service_b. In service_a unit file I have this: OnFailure=service_b And from the man page for OnFailure unit I get this: A space-separated

Re: [systemd-devel] Building systemd from git

2014-03-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.03.2014 15:02, schrieb Kevin Wilson: --prefix etc. I assume you mean: --prefix /etc and not prefix /etc is it so ? KW no: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera you don't want your binary tree in /etc On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek

Re: [systemd-devel] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047614

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2014 21:19, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Wed, 12.02.14 20:05, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: maybe systemd-upstream should consider slow down development and spend more energy in quality and stability Well, firstly, it's hardly your business how we spend our time

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v4] use systemd.debug on the kernel command line, not debug

2014-04-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.04.2014 23:22, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: The whole issue started with bug #76935: the original reporter was seemingly unaware of available kernel commandline options, and his comments fairly quickly degenerated to rude personal attacks. It's something that one sees quite

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd 212 RemoveIPC=yes breaks postgresql

2014-04-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.04.2014 03:01, schrieb Lennart Poettering: Tradditionally on Linux this is done via login.defs, but I am really not convinced this should be runtime configurable. I'd prefer to detect the minimal normal UID at compile time, and then use that to distuingish normal from system users

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] timer: allow user to control activation time of cron-like timers

2014-05-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.05.2014 18:30, schrieb Alex B: 2014-05-11 20:09 GMT+04:00 Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com: On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 07:53:55PM +0400, Alexander Bashmakov wrote: Issue was rised in this thread: https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2014-May/036162.html Disclaimer: I

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build: Honour SUID_CFLAGS and SUID_LDFLAGS

2014-05-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.05.2014 22:02, schrieb Cristian Rodríguez: El 17/05/14 14:56, Dave Reisner escribió: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 12:39:47PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: This is the standard* way used to pass special linker/compiler flags such as -fPIE and -pie * Standard in the sense it is

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 17/17] networkd: add dhcp server support

2014-05-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.05.2014 20:14, schrieb Kirill Elagin: The container usecase alone is already the reason why I am so very sure I want this stuff, and that it needs to be in networkd, and just work. I want this fully automatic, so that we can create a hundred of veth tunnels, and

Re: [systemd-devel] Delaying (SSH) key generation until the urandom pool is initialized

2014-06-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.06.2014 11:50, schrieb Florian Weimer: On 05/05/2014 04:35 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Hmm? Well, a virtualized OS has to trust the hypervisor, there's no way around that. I'm referring to this: * This function will use the architecture-specific hardware random * number

Re: [systemd-devel] Restart best practices

2014-06-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.06.2014 11:48, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 06/05/2014 05:00 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: I think it would make sense to recommend that packagers and upstream packages adopt Restart=on-failure or Restart=on-abnormal (where the former is not appropriate) for all long-running

[systemd-devel] no fsck at boot

2014-06-08 Thread Reindl Harald
touch /forcefsck leads in deprecated warnings but in fact at least on Fedora 19 *you need it* because the fsck don't happen otherwise for sure, the last reboot of the machine below complaind too so why don't it happen at boot? Jun 8 14:51:31 localhost

Re: [systemd-devel] no fsck at boot

2014-06-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.06.2014 17:05, schrieb Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Reindl Harald at 08/06/14 13:59 did gyre and gimble: touch /forcefsck leads in deprecated warnings but in fact at least on Fedora 19 *you need it* because the fsck don't happen otherwise for sure, the last reboot of the machine

Re: [systemd-devel] How to quiet cron sessions logging with systemd-212?

2014-06-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.06.2014 17:28, schrieb Leonid Isaev: On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 10:48:31AM +0300, Leho Kraav wrote: Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 10:48:31 +0300 From: Leho Kraav l...@kraav.com To: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net, systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] How

Re: [systemd-devel] no fsck at boot

2014-06-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.06.2014 21:26, schrieb Alexander E. Patrakov: 10.06.2014 00:57, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.06.2014 20:45, schrieb Alexander E. Patrakov: 10.06.2014 00:04, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.06.2014 17:05, schrieb Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Reindl Harald at 08/06/14 13:59 did gyre

Re: [systemd-devel] How to quiet cron sessions logging with systemd-212?

2014-06-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.06.2014 21:07, schrieb Leonid Isaev: On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 08:08:43PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: all the decades before crond did run fine, logs exactly what you need to know if /var/log/secure and /var/log/crond without writing *hundret thousands* loglines all day long on machines

Re: [systemd-devel] How to quiet cron sessions logging with systemd-212?

2014-06-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.06.2014 22:32, schrieb Leonid Isaev: On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:19:20PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: [...] on our production infrastrcuture these messages would be *a lot* more than all other logs summarized *and* they are spitted to /var/log/messages to make things worst But why

Re: [systemd-devel] How to quiet cron sessions logging with systemd-212?

2014-06-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.06.2014 12:20, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Mon, 09.06.14 09:33, Leho Kraav (l...@kraav.com) wrote: After upgrading systemd 208 - 212, every single cron job creates this flood in systemd journal: Can I quiet this down somehow? The idea with the journal is that we log

Re: [systemd-devel] How to quiet cron sessions logging with systemd-212?

2014-06-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.06.2014 18:01, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Tue, 10.06.14 13:24, Leho Kraav (l...@kraav.com) wrote: On 10.06.2014 13:20, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 09.06.14 09:33, Leho Kraav (l...@kraav.com) wrote: After upgrading systemd 208 - 212, every single cron job creates this flood

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd not initializing

2014-06-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.06.2014 16:35, schrieb Cristian Rodríguez: El 13/06/14 05:19, Jay D Bhatt escribió: Thanks. I surely forgot to attach log. Now you can find it attached. Nope, there is no attached log in your message because he sent the attachment one message before and found it useful to drop

Re: [systemd-devel] mdns support to networkd

2014-06-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.06.2014 21:09, schrieb Vasiliy Tolstov: 2014-06-23 16:13 GMT+04:00 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net: Both. mDNS is a very much a peer-to-peer system, hence all participants tend to implement both sides. I actually intend to make this useful enough so that we can use it for

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] install: enable timesyncd by default

2014-06-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.06.2014 14:43, schrieb Michael Olbrich: This treats it similarly to networkd, resolved and others and it matches what 90-systemd.preset does. --- Makefile.am | 3 +++ 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+) diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am index 4b292b2..bfef1c3 100644 ---

Re: [systemd-devel] xz troubles

2014-07-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.07.2014 02:20, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: this is in some sense a continuation of the subject of xz compression for coredumps. I've been benchmarking systemd-journal-remote + nc upload speed on some fake data in which the MESSAGE fields are a few kb, big enough to trigger

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build: Honour SUID_CFLAGS and SUID_LDFLAGS

2014-07-02 Thread Reindl Harald
the main question is *why* is it systemd's business? that flags are generelly set at the distribution level and in case of Fedora they can differ between archs because each arch has it's own %{optflags} the whole mess exists because upstream projects don't leave their fingers from that flags at

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] journal: add LZ4 as optional compressor

2014-07-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.07.2014 21:47, schrieb Lennart Poettering: BTW, have you checked whether reuseing the XZ context might make the XZ more competitive? please try a simple test compress 50 MB with XZ and GZ, LZO, LZ4 or BZIP2 - XZ is *magnitudes* slower in any case, there is simply nothing to optimize - XZ

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] journal: add LZ4 as optional compressor

2014-07-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.07.2014 12:22, schrieb Jon Severinsson: Am 06.07.2014 21:47, schrieb Lennart Poettering: BTW, have you checked whether reuseing the XZ context might make the XZ more competitive? On Sun Jul 6 15:01:11 PDT 2014 Reindl Harald wrote: please try a simple test compress 50 MB with XZ

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] sysusers: allow overrides in /etc and /run

2014-07-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.07.2014 16:59, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 07/10/2014 12:51 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: An administrator might want to block a certain sysusers config file from being executed, e.g. to block the creation of a certain user. --- src/sysusers/sysusers.c | 2 ++ 1 file

Re: [systemd-devel] sysusers and login.defs checks

2014-07-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.07.2014 23:38, schrieb Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 20/07/14 22:31 did gyre and gimble: Those defaults could be set from a compile time check of login.defs too. FWIW, at least here, /etc/login.defs is not readable by regular users so any build system that builds

Re: [systemd-devel] How to reduce systemd logging to syslog ?

2014-07-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.07.2014 03:10, schrieb sur...@emailengine.net: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014, at 05:31 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: 2. tell systemd to log less with 'systemd-analyze set-log-level notice'. Won't that lower the log level 'into' the journal as well? hopefully I'm happy to have

Re: [systemd-devel] How to reduce systemd logging to syslog ?

2014-07-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.07.2014 15:18, schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:41 AM, sur...@emailengine.net wrote: 2014-07-20T00:15:01.978142-07:00 core systemd[1]: Starting Session 2 of user root. 2014-07-20T00:15:01.979526-07:00 core systemd[1]: Started

Re: [systemd-devel] sysusers and login.defs checks

2014-07-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2014 22:47, schrieb Colin Walters: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014, at 09:43 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: I am pretty strongly against this. Making this administrator configurable apepars very wrong, this really should be a decision for the distribution vendor, and that's it. You list one

Re: [systemd-devel] Changing configurations with networkd

2014-07-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.07.2014 12:47, schrieb Tom Gundersen: I think the lease should be remembered and reused in this case. In general, saving the lease to disk is probably not a good idea. We would need to store it on /var, and we may need to start the DHCP server before /var has been mounted. To the extent

[systemd-devel] Fwd: race conditions after SIGTERM

2014-07-24 Thread Reindl Harald
conditions like below * stop mysqld instance 1 * stop mysqld instance 2 * the services still flush data but systemctl already returned * rsync both datadir * corruption Original-Nachricht Betreff: race conditions after SIGTERM Datum: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:42:51 +0200 Von: Reindl Harald

Re: [systemd-devel] race conditions after SIGTERM

2014-07-26 Thread Reindl Harald
in case of a non-forking daemon knows trustable when it is finished Am 24.07.2014 13:24, schrieb Reindl Harald: maybe that's a systemd thing i know Fedora 19 has not a recent systemd but the question remains if systemctl in case of Type=simple may act the same way while stop a service

Re: [systemd-devel] race conditions after SIGTERM

2014-07-27 Thread Reindl Harald
or twice a day and is hence not relieable to reproduce Am 25.07.2014 12:11, schrieb Reindl Harald: and it happended again how can it be that if i have running mysqld-instances as Type=simple directly starting mysqld that it is not safe after systemctl stop returns to rsync the datadirs i had

Re: [systemd-devel] Support for pre-restart check

2014-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.07.2014 12:22, schrieb Ansgar Burchardt: while looking at how to convert sysvinit scripts to service files in Debian, I noticed that some scripts do an additional sanity check during the restart action. That is, they run an extra command to validate the configuration and only restart

[systemd-devel] documentation and required version

2014-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html such error messages caused by list all sort of options without any information when they where introduced are really annoying - the docs should clearly say the minimum required systemd version and the more options are added the

Re: [systemd-devel] Support for pre-restart check

2014-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.07.2014 13:42, schrieb Ansgar Burchardt: On 07/30/2014 13:26, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/30/2014 10:22 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Add an ExecRestartPre option in the [Service] section. These commands are executed when a restart is requested, before the service is stopped. If

Re: [systemd-devel] documentation and required version

2014-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.07.2014 13:58, schrieb Tom Gundersen: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html such error messages caused by list all sort of options without any information when they where

Re: [systemd-devel] Support for pre-restart check

2014-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.07.2014 14:19, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 07/30/2014 12:09 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 30.07.14 12:22, Ansgar Burchardt (ans...@debian.org) wrote: while looking at how to convert sysvinit scripts to service files in Debian, I noticed that some scripts do an additional

Re: [systemd-devel] Support for pre-restart check

2014-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.07.2014 14:35, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 07/30/2014 12:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: they don't Perhaps not in your world which seems to differ from many don't jump on that personal level if you would have *read* really what you respond to and not stop at the first two words

Re: [systemd-devel] Support for pre-restart check

2014-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.07.2014 15:04, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 07/30/2014 12:34 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: *how* should that both help in calling apachectl -t *before* stop the service and in case of a error-repsonse keep it running? ExecStartPre= takes care of the startup check as in the usecase

Re: [systemd-devel] documentation and required version

2014-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.07.2014 17:31, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: Some of our man pages in section 3 partially have history, see e.g. [1]. I think having such information is very useful, but keeping it accurate is harder then it might seem at first. For example look at SocketUser/SocketGroup settings.

Re: [systemd-devel] Support for pre-restart check

2014-07-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.07.2014 um 07:03 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 07/31/2014 12:16 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: I think the use case is pretty clear tho'. Config (or general machine state) has transitioned from working to broken in the time since the service was started and while it's really not a nice

Re: [systemd-devel] Support for pre-restart check

2014-07-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.07.2014 um 02:41 schrieb Michael Biebl: 2014-07-30 14:34 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: ExecStopPre would be better suited as the pre-restart check because it would achieve the goal and also prevent stop a service until it's configuration is fixed - that catchs cases

Re: [systemd-devel] Support for pre-restart check

2014-08-01 Thread Reindl Harald
please don't break reply-to-list with reply-all Am 31.07.2014 um 13:30 schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas: On Jul 31, 2014 12:57 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 31.07.2014 um 02:16 schrieb Colin Guthrie: Reindl Harald wrote on 30/07/14 13:34: *how

Re: [systemd-devel] documentation and required version

2014-08-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.08.2014 um 17:09 schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Wed, 30.07.14 13:21, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html such error messages caused by list all sort of options without any information when they where

Re: [systemd-devel] race conditions after SIGTERM

2014-08-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.08.2014 um 14:22 schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Sun, 27.07.14 19:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 02:46:05PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: after that happend a few minutes ago systemd on F19: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: [systemd-devel] race conditions after SIGTERM

2014-08-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.08.2014 um 14:24 schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Sun, 27.07.14 20:04, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: but that still don't explain why ExecStopPost=/usr/bin/true or whatever ExecStopPost solves that and if it is not supported why systemctl don't return after the one

Re: [systemd-devel] race conditions after SIGTERM

2014-08-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.08.2014 um 19:51 schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Thu, 14.08.14 21:38, Andrei Borzenkov (arvidj...@gmail.com) wrote: Which is what we do. Except when you specify ExecStop= which basically tells systemd that you want to do it instead. So there you go! Those daemons I have seen are

Re: [systemd-devel] Link down for systemd articles

2014-08-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.08.2014 um 15:19 schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Mon, 18.08.14 12:45, Saket Sinha (saket.sinh...@gmail.com) wrote: I have been working on systemd recently and was referring to articles by Lennart Poettering for the same. However, I am not able to access the articles hosted at the below

Re: [systemd-devel] Make journalctl start at the end of the journal by default

2014-08-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.08.2014 um 15:27 schrieb Lennart Poettering: And also I would like to see the full logs always by default. Usually after lots of searching you find the offending log entry for the error, only to find out you forgot to pass the right command line options to journalctl and the important

Re: [systemd-devel] Setting Up SSH Tunnels

2013-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.07.2013 19:16, schrieb cac...@quantum-sci.com: For some years I've set up reverse SSH tunnels with a script, but when the tunnels go down they do not recover. I'd like to start and stop the tunnels using systemd. A typical command looks like this: /usr/bin/ssh -f -l sleeper -i

Re: [systemd-devel] Setting Up SSH Tunnels

2013-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.07.2013 21:20, schrieb cac...@quantum-sci.com: Reindl Harald: oneshot is plain wrong if you have a long living prcoess below a working unit to have a remote-server's ssh on localhost:10024 RestartSec=60 because so it survives reboots of the forwarded machine with auto reconnect

Re: [systemd-devel] My last post went as unprocessed

2013-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.07.2013 22:36, schrieb David Lambert: Thanks for your quick reply. I also notice a - preceding the target for ExecStart target. How does this work and where is it documented. Again very difficult to search :-[ the command is allowed to fail without failing the service it's common for

Re: [systemd-devel] fstab Mounts Not Getting Waken Up

2013-07-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Your use of sshfs# as a FUSE type is wrong -- you must use fuse.sshfs as the fstype instead. this simply wrong, this line below in /etc/fstab works day and night from FC9 to Fedora 18 as well as curlftpsfs mounts in /etc/fstab are starting with curlftpfs# and *both* have fuse and nothing else

Re: [systemd-devel] fstab Mounts Not Getting Waken Up

2013-07-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.07.2013 17:54, schrieb Dave Reisner: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 05:46:37PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Your use of sshfs# as a FUSE type is wrong -- you must use fuse.sshfs as the fstype instead. this simply wrong, this line below in /etc/fstab works day and night from FC9 to Fedora 18

Re: [systemd-devel] fstab Mounts Not Getting Waken Up

2013-07-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.07.2013 17:58, schrieb cac...@quantum-sci.com: Reindl Harald: Your use of sshfs# as a FUSE type is wrong -- you must use fuse.sshfs as the fstype instead. this simply wrong, this line below in /etc/fstab works day and night from FC9 to Fedora 18 as well as curlftpsfs mounts in /etc

[systemd-devel] question about SecureBits / NoNewPrivileges

2013-07-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Hi i try to secure the Apache-Webserver (mpm-prefork) as much as possible am i right that with the following settings in the systemd-unit after the child-process is forked with the apache user and the capabilities are reduced as below even a potential root exploit would have no success?

Re: [systemd-devel] question about SecureBits / NoNewPrivileges

2013-07-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.07.2013 20:00, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Sat, 20.07.13 04:06, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: Hi i try to secure the Apache-Webserver (mpm-prefork) as much as possible am i right that with the following settings in the systemd-unit after the child-process

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] man: Add a note about what environment variables are available by default.

2013-07-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.07.2013 12:03, schrieb Kay Sievers: man/systemd.exec.xml | 7 +++ 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+) diff --git a/man/systemd.exec.xml b/man/systemd.exec.xml index c0e1d86..b78f255 100644 --- a/man/systemd.exec.xml +++ b/man/systemd.exec.xml @@ -77,6 +77,13 @@

Re: [systemd-devel] /etc/systemd/system/darkice.service

2013-07-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.07.2013 11:06, schrieb Kai Hendry: On 26 July 2013 04:17, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: We generally generate warnings about invalid lines and proceed. Aftre we parsed everything we then do a couple of checks whether a unit still makes sense with the stuff that was

Re: [systemd-devel] guidance on how to get systemd to function

2013-08-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.08.2013 12:01, schrieb lux-integ: thanks for your reply Would you care to elaborate what PID1 is please? https://www.google.com/search?q=PID1#sclient=psy-abq=PID1+linux http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[systemd-devel] Please pass 'fsck.mode=force' on the kernel command line rather than creating /forcefsck on the root file system

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Please pass 'fsck.mode=force' on the kernel command line rather than creating /forcefsck on the root file system please drop this deprectaion, it is disturbing and useless if you want a forced fsck for *whatever* reason you do *not* want to edit the grub-config and need to remove it after pass

Re: [systemd-devel] What is the best way to run a shell script through 'ExecStart'

2013-09-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.09.2013 15:31, schrieb Tom Gundersen: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Muhammad Shakeel muhammad_shak...@mentor.com wrote: I have been trying to convert a LSB initscript of a package into corresponding systemd service fyile. Most init scripts are simple and translating them into

Re: [systemd-devel] moving from SysV to systemd - issue with / being ro

2013-10-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.10.2013 19:22, schrieb Warpme: On 10/16/13 7:02 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 06:18:12PM +0200, Warpme wrote: Hi, I want to switch init system from SysV to systemd-196. Sys is PXE booted disk-less appliance with rootfs based on overlayfs. Currently I

Re: [systemd-devel] moving from SysV to systemd - issue with / being ro

2013-10-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.10.2013 14:59, schrieb Warpme: On 10/16/13 9:46 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 09:19:43PM +0200, Warpme wrote: Maybe we should disable [re]mounting / by systemd at all? All systemd does, is call 'mount -o remount /'. I have no idea how you end up with a

Re: [systemd-devel] moving from SysV to systemd - issue with / being ro

2013-10-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.10.2013 21:25, schrieb Warpme: So summarizing: 1.systemd-remount-fs.service status from boot sequence is OK - but / is ro 2.starting /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-remount-fs switches / to rw 3.systemctl restart systemd-remount-fs.service switches / to rw Console output from 1 3 is the

Re: [systemd-devel] Newbie question - Requires doesn't work properly

2013-11-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.11.2013 03:04, schrieb salil GK: Thanks a lot David On 22 November 2013 06:44, David Timothy Strauss da...@davidstrauss.net mailto:da...@davidstrauss.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:57 PM, salil GK gksa...@gmail.com mailto:gksa...@gmail.com wrote: What happens is -

Re: [systemd-devel] Newbie question - Requires doesn't work properly

2013-11-22 Thread Reindl Harald
and different threads are touching each other in a unexpected way been there, died nearly in debug it and catch data for upstream On Nov 22, 2013 7:50 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 22.11.2013 03:04, schrieb salil GK: Thanks a lot David

Re: [systemd-devel] Presentation was a success

2013-12-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.12.2013 12:17, schrieb Cecil Westerhof: On 12/06/2013 11:31 AM, poma wrote: In 7th slide - Improvements - Only necessary kernel modules How does it actually refers to systemd? You do not need to have modules loaded that are not used much. They can be loaded when a program that

Re: [systemd-devel] Presentation was a success

2013-12-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.12.2013 12:38, schrieb Cecil Westerhof: On 12/06/2013 12:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: In 7th slide - Improvements - Only necessary kernel modules How does it actually refers to systemd? You do not need to have modules loaded that are not used much. They can be loaded when a program

Re: [systemd-devel] Presentation was a success

2013-12-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.12.2013 15:36, schrieb Cecil Westerhof: On 12/06/2013 12:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.12.2013 12:38, schrieb Cecil Westerhof: On 12/06/2013 12:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: In 7th slide - Improvements - Only necessary kernel modules How does it actually refers to systemd? You do

Re: [systemd-devel] Logging in an enterprise environment

2013-12-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.12.2013 14:43, schrieb Cecil Westerhof: On 12/11/2013 02:25 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: You can to centralized logging with the journal too, by simply making the journal files you want to look at accessible on the same machine. This could be done via NFS sharing, or by copying them to a

Re: [systemd-devel] No security on systemd-journal-gatewayd

2013-12-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.12.2013 22:41, schrieb Cecil Westerhof: I tried out systemd-journal-gatewayd. But it looks like that everyone that can contact, can get log info. Is that true, or am I overlooking something? as far as i remeber from older posts about it the intention is that a) it is not on by

[systemd-devel] dmesg: Vacuuming done, freed xxx bytes

2013-12-16 Thread Reindl Harald
is it really needed to pass this messages to dmesg instead syslog or supress them? it is disturbing in cases you distribute dmesg over a infrastructure with more than 20 machines [941542.003467] systemd-journald[22511]: Vacuuming done, freed 2879488 bytes [944310.095412] systemd-journald[22511]:

Re: [systemd-devel] fstrim cron job

2013-12-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.12.2013 14:44, schrieb Kay Sievers: Trimming should be the job of the filesystem, not for a nasty cron job. We do not want to support legacy filesystems with upstream shipped systemd units. doing it permanently on the fs-layer degrades all time performance doing it in a cron job

Re: [systemd-devel] fstrim cron job

2013-12-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.12.2013 15:23, schrieb Kay Sievers: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 21.12.2013 14:44, schrieb Kay Sievers: Trimming should be the job of the filesystem, not for a nasty cron job. We do not want to support legacy filesystems with upstream

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCHv2] install: Assume *.wants symlinks have the same name as their target for scalability.

2013-12-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.12.2013 18:53, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: I found another one: - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66912 Autocompletion does not propose template units which have some instances enabled may I notice this one in context of autocompletion too

Re: [systemd-devel] network-online.target and manual mounts

2014-01-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.01.2014 22:13, schrieb Andrey Borzenkov: В Ср, 01/01/2014 в 15:00 -0500, Dave Reisner пишет: On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 11:43:15PM +0400, Andrey Borzenkov wrote: systemd.special(7) suggests that network-online.target should be pulled in by consumer. Unfortunately, that means that when

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFT] DHCPv4 support in networkd

2014-01-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.01.2014 13:55, schrieb Tom Gundersen: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Holger Schurig holgerschu...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK Mac OSX does a trick here Yeah, and we should do the same: http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc4436 because this explains why i sometimes see firewall logs in the

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFT] DHCPv4 support in networkd

2014-01-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.01.2014 16:29, schrieb Tom Gundersen: Hei Reindl, On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 02.01.2014 13:55, schrieb Tom Gundersen: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Holger Schurig holgerschu...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK Mac OSX does a trick here

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFT] DHCPv4 support in networkd

2014-01-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.01.2014 16:41, schrieb Tom Gundersen: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: the problems are that if someone comes back with his Apple notebook this crap starts to using the old ip-address and triggering all sorts of alarms, firewall-rules and so

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-udevd Oops

2014-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.01.2014 15:03, schrieb Cristian Rodríguez: El 14/01/14 09:52, Mark Hounschell escribió: Well, the systemd/udev README file from 208-15.1: yeah, one thing is what systemd upstream requires and a completely different one is what openSUSE can/will support or allow. It is not just

[systemd-devel] systemctl reboot/shutdown freezes client

2014-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
can someone please have a look why starting with Fedora 20/RHEL7 and systemd-208 after typing systemctl reboot no longer waits until sshd is closing the client connection resulting in a completly frozen VT ignoring CTRL+C and waiting for KeepAlive timeout

Re: [systemd-devel] systemctl reboot/shutdown freezes client

2014-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2014 03:57, schrieb Andrey Borzenkov: В Wed, 15 Jan 2014 02:54:16 +0100 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net пишет: can someone please have a look why starting with Fedora 20/RHEL7 and systemd-208 after typing systemctl reboot no longer waits until sshd is closing the client

Re: [systemd-devel] systemctl reboot/shutdown freezes client

2014-01-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2014 16:47, schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 15.01.2014 16:37, schrieb Holger Schurig: Try systemctl --force reboot. The --force will kill the processes, which (for me) closes the incoming ssh session that indeed works interesting question: what has changed in the latest systemd

Re: [systemd-devel] Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 16:03, schrieb Lennart Poettering: It is our job to shutdown all services cleanly. A number of services needs this, since they need to bring their files into a safe state before quitting, and mark them as offline. We cannot just drop that. Note however, that we add have

Re: [systemd-devel] Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 18:43, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Fri, 24.01.14 17:10, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Tom Horsley at 24/01/14 15:44 did gyre and gimble: However, something like that can never be the default, we need to give services the chance to shut

Re: [systemd-devel] Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 19:26, schrieb Michael Biebl: 2014/1/24 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net: Yupp, Michal had the same idea, that's why there is the eye-of-sauron animation in place... Ah, good to know. That's a start. I guess my systemd version (v204) is simply too old then? Is

[systemd-devel] Fwd: Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
2014 18:59:56 +0100 Von: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net An: Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net Am 24.01.2014 18:53, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Fri, 24.01.14 18:45, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: However, something like that can never be the default, we need

Re: [systemd-devel] Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 19:44, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: Is this animation shown irregardless of whether one has booted with quiet or not? With quiet the [OK] lines are not shown, so no, it only works without quiet one more case why the shiny graphical boot does only harm in case of

Re: [systemd-devel] Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 20:01, schrieb Andrey Borzenkov: В Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:44:08 +0100 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl пишет: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 07:26:48PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: 2014/1/24 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net: On Fri, 24.01.14 18:18, Michael Biebl

Re: [systemd-devel] customized shutdown service needed

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.02.2012 17:16, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Sun, 26.02.12 19:13, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: the ExecStop is called but systemd DOES NOT wait until it is finished leading to all virtual machines are killed hard while systemctl stop vmware-default.service does

Re: [systemd-devel] Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown

2014-01-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2014 18:09, schrieb Marcos Mello: Koen Kooi koen at dominion.thruhere.net writes: [snip] To make matters worse, the cylon eye isn't displayed when you boot with 'quiet' in your kernel command line. quiet systemd.show_status=1 shows the gracious Cylon eye so that should be

Re: [systemd-devel] Malicious tests?

2014-01-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.01.2014 12:30, schrieb Tom Horsley: Sadly simple containers with little real world units seem to avoid the problems. But I'm sure there will be some kind of fix for this over the next week or so. But my example doesn't have any units at all :-). I issue two disable commands in a row

Re: [systemd-devel] Allow stop jobs to be killed during shutdown

2014-01-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.01.2014 05:27, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: after the timeout is reached it continues the users problem is the silent waiting *before* the timeout Done. After a job has been running for more than 5s, or a failure occurs, cylon eye will be shown. Also status will be printed

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown problem on openSuSE 13.1 with NFS mounted user home

2014-02-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.02.2014 11:31, schrieb Rainer Krienke: I am experiencing problems on openSuSE 13.1 systems using systemd, iff this system uses NFS mounts for the users home directory mounted by automount. Regular 13.1 installations with local user home directories just work fine. The problem is,

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