Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: [systemd‑devel] [EXT] Proposal to extend os‑release/machine‑info with field PREFER_HARDENED_CONFIG

2022-03-09 Thread Stefan Schröder
Let me list the counter arguments to the proposal (to include a new field PREFER_HARDENED_CONFIG) so far: * The packages should be deploying a secure configuration by default. Counter-argument: Yes, but they don't. There are obviuosly competing interests and sometimes convenience wins.

Re: [systemd-devel] [EXT] Proposal to extend os-release/machine-info with field PREFER_HARDENED_CONFIG

2022-02-16 Thread Stefan Schröder
Hallo Ulrich, thank you for taking the time to read my proposal. > Probably because "secure" isn't considered to be "comfortable" by a majority > of users. Indeed. > I think os-relesase describes the operating system, not policies. You are right. Perhaps machine-info would be a better fit than

Re: [systemd-devel] Proposal to extend os-release/machine-info with field PREFER_HARDENED_CONFIG

2022-02-16 Thread Stefan Schröder
> Lennart Poettering hat am 16.02.2022 13:27 > geschrieben: > Do they? What dos "secure" mean? If there's a security vulnerability, > maybe talk to the distro about that? They should be interested... I am not talking about vulnerabilities here. All the major distros maintain hardening guides.

[systemd-devel] Proposal to extend os-release/machine-info with field PREFER_HARDENED_CONFIG

2022-02-15 Thread Stefan Schröder
Situation: Many packages in a distribution ship with a default configuration that is not considered 'secure'. Hardening guidelines are available for all major distributions. Each is a little different. Many configuration suggestions are common-sense among security-conscious administrators,