Re: [systemd-devel] Talks comparing systemd and launchd.

2014-03-06 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Several of the ground breaking ideas in systemd seem to come directly from
 launchd.

systemd makes no claim to be original or ground-breaking with many of
its ideas. As you mention, some come from launchd. Others come from
Solaris service management. I don't know any presentations off the top
of my head drawing direct comparisons, though.
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Re: [systemd-devel] Talks comparing systemd and launchd.

2014-03-06 Thread David Farning
Sorry if it seems that I was criticizing systemd's use of ideas from
other projects. That was not my intent. I respect the reuse of proven
good ideas. I am trying to get my mind wrapped around how all the the
ideas came together.

Now my philosophical sticking point is how big pid1 should be to do
what it needs to do. Practically, I am trying to understand where
those boundaries should be and how to communicate that information.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM, David Timothy Strauss
da...@davidstrauss.net wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Several of the ground breaking ideas in systemd seem to come directly from
 launchd.

 systemd makes no claim to be original or ground-breaking with many of
 its ideas. As you mention, some come from launchd. Others come from
 Solaris service management. I don't know any presentations off the top
 of my head drawing direct comparisons, though.
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Re: [systemd-devel] Talks comparing systemd and launchd.

2014-03-06 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now my philosophical sticking point is how big pid1 should be to do
 what it needs to do. Practically, I am trying to understand where
 those boundaries should be and how to communicate that information.

A large amount of systemd's code does not run in PID 1. Are you
referring to systemd's code or PID 1 in particular?
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