Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 06:30:33PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mo, 21.10.19 17:50, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > > > In principle, the watchdog for services is nice. But in practice it seems > > be bring only grief. The Fedora bugtracker is full of automated

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-31 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 21.10.19 17:50, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > In principle, the watchdog for services is nice. But in practice it seems > be bring only grief. The Fedora bugtracker is full of automated reports of > ABRTs, > and of those that were fired by the watchdog, pretty

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-25 Thread Vito Caputo
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:26:44AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 02:56:55PM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:45:32AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:35:13AM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > > > > On

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-25 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 02:56:55PM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:45:32AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:35:13AM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:51:49AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > wrote: > >

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-24 Thread Vito Caputo
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:45:32AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:35:13AM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:51:49AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:34:45PM +0200, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog wrote:

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:35:13AM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:51:49AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:34:45PM +0200, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog wrote: > > > I am curious Zbigniew of how you find out if the coredump was on a starved >

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-22 Thread Vito Caputo
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:51:49AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:34:45PM +0200, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog wrote: > > I am curious Zbigniew of how you find out if the coredump was on a starved > > process? > > A very common case is systemd-journald which gets

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:34:45PM +0200, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog wrote: > I am curious Zbigniew of how you find out if the coredump was on a starved > process? A very common case is systemd-journald which gets SIGABRT when in a read() or write() or similar syscall. Another case is when

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-22 Thread Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
I am curious Zbigniew of how you find out if the coredump was on a starved process? This is common for our embedded devices. I didn't think it is common for desktop too. It is really useful for getting coredumps on deadlocked applications. For that reason I don't think it is good to remove this

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-22 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:17:42 + Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 09:54:31AM +0300, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:50:44 + > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > > In principle, the watchdog for services is nice. But in practice it

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:32:08PM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 05:50:44PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > In principle, the watchdog for services is nice. But in practice it seems > > be bring only grief. The Fedora bugtracker is full of automated reports of

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 09:54:31AM +0300, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:50:44 + > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > In principle, the watchdog for services is nice. But in practice it seems > > be bring only grief. The Fedora bugtracker is full of automated reports of

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-22 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:50:44 + Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > In principle, the watchdog for services is nice. But in practice it seems > be bring only grief. The Fedora bugtracker is full of automated reports of > ABRTs, > and of those that were fired by the watchdog, pretty much

Re: [systemd-devel] is the watchdog useful?

2019-10-21 Thread Vito Caputo
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 05:50:44PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > In principle, the watchdog for services is nice. But in practice it seems > be bring only grief. The Fedora bugtracker is full of automated reports of > ABRTs, > and of those that were fired by the watchdog, pretty