That gets to the unstated part of my previous post (below), which is that
the physical averages will determine the best suited "average" (average
for an elite, that is) runner per discipline, but a great runner will be a
great runner regardless of body type. That sorta throws all the averages
out
27:45 July, 4, 1999 - Atlanta
13:24 Sept. 14, 1997 - Providence, R.I.
Looking for a blank VCR tape, I found an indoor meet from about 1995. I'll have to go
back and
review it, but Khannouchi finished fourth in a 3000, two Americans beat him, one was
Bob Kennedy.
Steve Shea wrote:
> What's Khan
What's Khanouchi's 10k PR?
Steve S.
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From: alan tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova
win at Chicago
> When a runner I b
Hey, Heeey, HY, I got Martin's bookmark:
http://www.funky-stuff.com/jamesbrown/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hell, Martin has soul
>
> I've got too much soul
> -James Brown
>
> In a message dated 10/13/2003 2:57:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >Where do you suggest people go that a
"When they say it's all in the mind maybe they mean that literally? Tom"
Marketing wizzes determined long ago that "All in the hypothalamus"
would never sell.
malmo
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Derderian
Sent: Monday, October 13,
Maybe the toughness of a marathoner needs not to be so much in the sinew but
in the synapses. So if we were to look at the marthoner's brain would we
find it different from the 10km runner's brain, if we find it at all?
But seriously, maybe endorphin production differs. Sometimes I think long
dista
Hell, Martin has soul
I've got too much soul
-James Brown
In a message dated 10/13/2003 2:57:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Where do you suggest people go that are looking for that lost soul? I'm
>not being facetious. I'd like to know so I can bookmark it.
>
>Robert J Howell wrote:
>
>>
>
I tend to think you're both right - lighter 10K guys can and do move up, but
the average numbers will continue to be heavier for the marathoners because
on average there is a little more muscle resistance required.
Now here's an interesting question - at what point between 10K and marathon
would t
--- alan tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the marathon you must have muscles and connective tissue strong
> enough to handle the pounding.
That's been a commonly held belief for some time now, but I think it's
being pretty heavily refuted by the current crop of 5k/10k studs
re-writing the rec
http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/031013/1/3exlk.html
Tuesday October 14, 4:06 AM
Mulaudzi shocked by Tanzanian in two-lap showdown
World Championships bronze medallist Mbulaeni Mulaudzi of South Africa was
pipped to the All Africa Games 800 metres title by Tanzania's Samuel Mwera.
Mwera finished in a
If a "U.S. girl" in her marathon debut ran within a minute of the world
record, you'd probably hear plenty of ranting.
Kurt Bray
not barely heard of...
U. S. girl debut in sub 2:30. Where is the rant??
In a message dated 10/13/2003 12:47:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
>When a runner I barel
She's a tall, good looking blond. Gave up her job as an air traffic controller in
Albuquerque so she
could train more. I would stake Alan's life on it that she's not taking
performance-enhancing
drugs;)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> not barely heard of...
> U. S. girl debut in sub 2:30. Where is t
Which record? He missed Chicago's record (2:05:42) by eight seconds.
But, Ruttu has the record for the fastest debut.
"Martin J. Dixon" wrote:
> Alan was talking about the record that was just broken and it was 12 seconds off.
>
> Richard McCann wrote:
>
> > Actually, he's 55 seconds off the WR.
I have been on this list since shortly after it started in 1993 and have
been a List Supervisor since the day the office was established. I agree
that the list is much less vibrant now, but there is still enough going on
here to keep >700 people subscribed.
There are two things that are true a
Alan-
because you have not heard of him it is suspicious? I
will tell you Evans is the real deal and 100% clean. I
had the honor of being part of Dieters training
group,running every day with the guys then hanging out
drinking chai watching tv. unfortuantly I got injured
and did not get to race. Ru
Alan-
because you have not heard of him it is suspicious? I
will tell you Evans is the real deal and 100% clean. I
had the honor of being part of Dieters training
group,running every day with the guys then hanging out
drinking chai watching tv. unfortuantly I got injured
and did not get to race. Ru
His PRs in the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon press guide: 13:02/27:21, both in 2000.
He is 25
(4/8/78) (8/4/78 for the Europeans.) There was a pack of about six Kenyans at about
M20 until Ruttu
threw in a 4:34 (1:03:35/1:02:15) (last 10K:29:26) and it was over.
With first place money and timed b
Alan was talking about the record that was just broken and it was 12 seconds off.
Richard McCann wrote:
> Actually, he's 55 seconds off the WR.
> At 06:35 PM 10/13/2003 +, alan tobin wrote:
> >When a runner I barely heard of runs his first ever marathon 8 seconds off
> >a record that was jus
Where do you suggest people go that are looking for that lost soul? I'm not
being facetious. I'd like to know so I can bookmark it.
Robert J Howell wrote:
>
>
> Regardless of what Randy says, Kim has it right. This list has no soul,
> no personality. It is only a shell of what it was.
>
> Robbi
not barely heard of...
U. S. girl debut in sub 2:30. Where is the rant??
In a message dated 10/13/2003 12:47:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>When a runner I barely heard of runs his first ever marathon 8 seconds
>off a record that was just broke I start to wonder. 27:30 10k 2:05:50
marathon
Actually, he's 55 seconds off the WR. By my calculation, his time equals
about 26:55 for 10k. Given that few marathoners run equivalent 10k
performances, I don't think he's too far out of line. You need to realize
that the current men's marathon WR is still quite weak, and should be well
und
I got onto this list in 1994, during the heyday of the "trash talking".
If I had known what this list would become, I would have kept a tally of
all of the runners, jumpers, and throwers that posted or lurked at one
point or another. Anybody remember hearing from people like Steve Holman,
Kevin S
>In the marathon you must have muscles and connective tissue strong enough
to handle the pounding. Larger
> muscles and connective tissue will be stronger.
Makes sense - and ultrarunners are bigger still, although the sample size
for ultrarunners is so small that I don't think we can make many co
Meb got his Olympic "A" marathon qualifier at Chicago, 2:10:03, but the bad
news is that there are currently 88 other men faster than him since the
qualifying period began.
The good news is that 48 of them are Kenyans, and they can't all run in the
Olympics
This reminds me of a funny exchange in T&
When a runner I barely heard of runs his first ever marathon 8 seconds off a
record that was just broke I start to wonder. 27:30 10k 2:05:50 marathon.
Call me a pessimist if you want. Icing on the cake would be if he's a part
of Dr. Rosa's camp. Anyone know?
Alan
From: Richard McCann <[EMAIL
The same observations have been made regarding Olympic medalists. You can
find a similar study at Peak Performance Online and on numerous messages
boards (mariusbakken.com comes to mind). 5'7' 140lb for the steeple? Those
guys are huge! Maybe I should switch events. In the marathon you must have
Analysis of the 2003 NCAA Division I Women's Cross Country Coaches' Poll
by Mike Scott,
University of Rhode Island
Updated: 13 October
For the 7th consecutive year, I am analyzing the Women's Division I Coaches' Poll.
Teams are listed according to their ranking in the current edition of the
Actually, gh promised speed and, while most web-based email programs are very
slow, he delivered. On a DSL, it loads almost instantly. I periodically have to
view it on a line that is only at about 24000 bps and it still loads reasonably
fast unless the thread has got over 100 posts. If you want to
At 11:20 PM 10/12/2003 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote:
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:20:42 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: t-and-f: dynamite the bridge. Why?
Not dead...
Dan K,Roger, Martin,Rich,Malmo, Ed, Cathy ,Mike and Michael are all regular
contributions in which I often look forward to re
Meb got his Olympic "A" marathon qualifier at Chicago, 2:10:03, but the bad
news is that there are currently 88 other men faster than him since the
qualifying period began.
The good news is that 48 of them are Kenyans, and they can't all run in the
Olympics
At the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon yesterday, Jenny Spangler, 40, ran 2:32:38
(missed A standard
by 38 seconds) to set U.S. masters best for the marathon (13th/3rd US/1st Masters/1st
Illinois - she
picked up a lot of bonus cash.)
Question: Jenny Spangler currently holds the U.S. best at the j
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