t-and-f: Gateshead 4x1

2000-08-28 Thread Conway
A US team won the 4x1 at Gateshead in a nice 37.95 .. Does anyone know who the personnel was on that team ?? Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: BIG PR for LIBBIE

2000-08-28 Thread mike fanelli
If not mistaken, Libbie Hickman's 2nd place in Gateshead 3000 (behind the 8:33.0 of Sonia O'Sullivan) was a HUGE PR...I recall watching her "breakthrough" 3K PR of 8:42.32 at Pre in '96...Today she destroyed that mark with her 2000 American list leading 8:35.02...a best by 7.3 seconds!!! My sta

t-and-f: Berlin Entries

2000-08-28 Thread Conway
The Berlin web site doesn't seem to have a listing of entries on it .. Does anyone have a site or information on who is scheduled to compete in Berlin ?? Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: IOC Gives Approval to Test Athletes for EPO in Sydney

2000-08-28 Thread FranciCash
IOC Gives Approval to Test Athletes for EPO in Sydney By STEPHEN WILSON .c The Associated Press LAUSANNE, Switzerland (Aug. 28) The International Olympic Committee approved tests for the banned drug erythropoietin, or EPO, to be conducted at the Sydney Games next month. ".

Re: t-and-f: Gateshead GPII Results

2000-08-28 Thread A.J. Craddock
It was also raining at Gateshead. Several athletes were clearly just avoiding injury. Tony Craddock At 07:06 PM 8/28/00 -0700, Conway wrote: >I'm not sure about the cold, but Greene definitely doesn't seem to run well >in England .. If the Olympics were being held in London I would be plenty >w

Re: t-and-f: No WRs

2000-08-28 Thread Michael Rohl
Netters Gary wrote: > (i ignored women's walk records) I think it could be argued that at that time the women's event wasn't as mature, having just been added to the World Championships for the first time the year before. This year the women have hammered out several good world records the R

t-and-f: can you believe this

2000-08-28 Thread Michael Rohl
Netters Here is a crack up for you. And some wonder why I get a little temperamental This guy claims to one of the U.S'S fastest marathoners... as if THAT means anything. You can decide. sounds like a typical wannabe distance runner insecure in what he is doing. I know the type bec

RE: t-and-f: U.S. TV criticism--1976 style

2000-08-28 Thread malmo
Title: Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style Nah, that was Ron Addison who in 1980 broke his collarbone in his dive to the finish falling just short with a 4th place finish. To add insult to injury, the damn "Redcoats" disqualified him for desperately whacking on John Gregorek in a futil

t-and-f: where are all the world records?

2000-08-28 Thread Michael Rohl
Netters Actually the whole thing is for naught, pending ratification the Russians have already broken the 20 and 50k marks this year so pack it up. There have been world records set by men but who ever asked initially just for got to check on the walks. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Re: Grote Wedding Bells

2000-08-28 Thread R.T.
Ah yes, another performance that is downright... ...reminiscent of Jesse Owens?...well, no... ...Beamonesque?...not quite... ...Grotesque?...absolutely! ...bring on the mini-Grotes! RT On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:26:45 -0400, you wrote: >Something to look forward to: The recent news on the list

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-28 Thread Jason L Bunston
Adam Knudson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think that the last year in which no men's track or field world > record was broken was 1910... So on this whole thread, at what point does the list think that setting new world records will become prohibitively difficult? Even if one throws out the o

Re: t-and-f: Same old Donovan

2000-08-28 Thread WillyBeaman
Yes, he does sound similar to carl of the 80's. that is why many old timers do not think very highly of Carl either! Because he is the defending OG Gold, and former wrh is the very reason people are so put off by his excuses. He has been doing it since 97, and it is old hat. Before he had hi

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style

2000-08-28 Thread Dave Cameron
Nah... Bob has to be much older than 125. After all, he was making eloquent, informed comments in 1876. He must have been at least 25 at that point - so figure he's 150 or so. Hey, the research says that running is good for longevity! > -Original Message- > From: A.J. Craddock

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-28 Thread Conway
On Monday, August 28, 2000 3:44 PM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The IAAF will be sorry yet it didn't buy the German proposal for new records > when the millenium turned. They're going to feel a compelling need to do so > in the next few years and won't have a "logical" excuse that the public will

Re: t-and-f: No WRs

2000-08-28 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/28/00 17:44:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I think a big part of the reason we haven't yet seen a WR is the fact that the games are so late in the year. People are peaking for September, not July and August as usual. A comparable situation in recent memory was the 198

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style

2000-08-28 Thread CORA KOCH
The Commish is ageless. -Original Message-From: A.J. Craddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Ed Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; track net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Monday, August 28, 2000 9:28 PMSubject: Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 styleDidn't know that Bob Hersh was around

t-and-f: Re: Grote Wedding Bells

2000-08-28 Thread CORA KOCH
Something to look forward to: The recent news on the list means I may be refereeing Junior Olympic meets in a few years with little Grotes. My best wishes to the happy couple.   Ed Koch     -Original Message-From: Ryan Grote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Sam Alexander-  My right hand man

t-and-f: Re: CBC Internet Coverage of Games

2000-08-28 Thread Allen M James
Netters, So what would prohibit CBC and others to flash results and stories on their sites including short video clips? Do they all have to bow to the all mighty dollar of the Nothing But Crap television network?? Let's face it the only thing good NBC has going for it is "West Wing." They're

Re: t-and-f: Gateshead GPII Results

2000-08-28 Thread Conway
I'm not sure about the cold, but Greene definitely doesn't seem to run well in England .. If the Olympics were being held in London I would be plenty worried .. And to be honest I wonder why he even ran here given that he just ran in Brussels and is scheduled to run in Berlin .. As for Capel I am

Re: t-and-f: Note to Statisticians - Andrew Masai's DOB

2000-08-28 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/28/00 18:45:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I made an inquiry and received a fax of a copy of his birth certificate from his U.S.-based agent. According to this document, signed by a Kenyan government official, he was born on the earlier date, making him 40 years-old. He

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style

2000-08-28 Thread SMLurie
Yes, Mike Roche did break his arm and then ran with a cast in Montreal. Steve Lurie

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style

2000-08-28 Thread Benji Durden
Title: Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style That was my memory too but I went to my T&F News from August 1976 and the was the photo I remembered of Roche getting up but no mention of the broken arm. bd -- Benji Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think Mike broke his arm in that fall.  Or is that

t-and-f: Note to Statisticians - Andrew Masai's DOB

2000-08-28 Thread David Monti
RRW Subscribers and Track Listers, I have received several e-mails recently inquiring about the age of Kenyan athlete, Andrew Masai. Most older reference books listed his date of birth as 13-Dec-1960, which would make him 39 years-old, but the 2000 Road Race Management Guide listed the date as

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style

2000-08-28 Thread A.J. Craddock
Didn't know that Bob Hersh was around 125 years old. Go Bob! No wonder MJ's 200M world record paperwork was a bit slow in being processed! Tony Craddock __ At 07:34 PM 8/28/00 -0700, Ed Grant wrote: Netters:       Rummaging through old copies of my NJ Track for a bit of statist

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style

2000-08-28 Thread Tom Derderian
Title: Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style -- From: "Ed Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  "The steeplecahse final was a story in itself. The race was run while ABC was on "live" but the jerks who decide what goes on that show missed the most dramatic incident of the entire trials. (M

t-and-f: No WRs

2000-08-28 Thread Shawn Sorenson
I think a big part of the reason we haven't yet seen a WR is the fact that the games are so late in the year. People are peaking for September, not July and August as usual. A comparable situation in recent memory was the 1988 season, prior to Seoul. Aside from Flo Jo's exploits, were there rec

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style

2000-08-28 Thread R.T.
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:34:48 -0700, you wrote: >Netters: > >Rummaging through old copies of my NJ Track for a bit of statistical >compilation, I came across this comment on the ABC coverage of the 1876 trials: >Other quotes that year include a scathing co

RE: t-and-f: CBC Internet Coverage of Games

2000-08-28 Thread THOMAS,Graham
Hi Roger - article from today's Sydney Morning Herald has some info on this: Optus bid to bypass video ban By KIRSTY NEEDHAM 9:51AM, Aug 29 When is a high-speed cable modem service not an Internet company? When navigating a route past an International Olympic Committee ban on online video, of co

t-and-f: U.S. TV crticism--1976 style

2000-08-28 Thread Ed Grant
Netters:       Rummaging through old copies of my NJ Track for a bit of statistical compilation, I came across this comment on the ABC coverage of the 1876 trials:        "The steeplecahse final was a story in itself. The race was run while ABC was on "live" but the jerks who

Re: t-and-f: Gateshead GPII Results

2000-08-28 Thread Vulcanxc
in light of yet another loss in the 100 by Greene I want to put forth the beginning of an analysis of Greene's losses here. I dont know what the weather was this time in Britain but he really seems to have trouble in cooler weather. This might be a problem in Sydney's cooler clime. Any others

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-28 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/28/00 3:11:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I think that the last year in which no men's track or field world record was broken was 1910, of course it depends on what you mean by standard events, if you don't consider the 1k or the 3k standard then I think it would be 191

t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-28 Thread Adam Knudson
I think that the last year in which no men's track or field world record was broken was 1910, of course it depends on what you mean by standard events, if you don't consider the 1k or the 3k standard then I think it would be 1918. (by the way the answer is the same even if you are only considerin

t-and-f: Day 5 wit and wisdom

2000-08-28 Thread GHTFNedit
Ditch that Dobert fella... never have liked his damn cartoon, anyhow! Capel doesn't get an invitation. He might talk about football and we know nothing about it. Meb Keflezighi - - I'd like to go to dinner with someone who makes it out of the first round in Sydney. Charles Austin. Will go abo

t-and-f: Day 5--no hogs left to kick around

2000-08-28 Thread GHTFNedit
A day after his Arkansas jumping mate, Robert Howard has been sent to his room without dinner. Since he was the Sunday runner-up (not that anybody but me knew that) it was no surprise.

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--round 6

2000-08-28 Thread GHTFNedit
OK clones, you've got 24 hours (i.e., until noon PDT Tuesday) to cut another Sacto champion from the dinner table. If you didn't vote previously, doesn't mean you can't vote now. And no, you don't have to say the same thing two days in a row. Here are the 12 remaining potential dinner guests t

t-and-f: Gateshead GPII Results

2000-08-28 Thread HWillman
IAAF Grand Prix II CGU Classic Gateshead, 28-Aug-2000 RESULTS MEN 100 METRES - MEN Wind: -0.3 1 Chambers Dwain GBR 10.11 2 Williams Bernard USA 10.17 3 Greene Maurice USA 10.24

t-and-f: Frankie Fredericks finally appears

2000-08-28 Thread Glenn Smith
Fredericks preps for Olympic at Yokohama meet TOKYO (August 28, 2000 8:37 a.m. EDT http://www.sportserver.com) - Frank Fredericks, Namibia's two-time double-Olympic silver medallist, will lead some 200 athletes at the Yokohama track and field meet on Sept. 9 in preparation for the Sydney Ol

t-and-f: "American Record" for Hickman!

2000-08-28 Thread GHTFNedit
Her 8:35.02 in Gateshead is the fastest non-Slaney time ever by an American. gh

t-and-f: CBC Internet Coverage of Games

2000-08-28 Thread Roger Ruth
When I wrote to CBC Sports Online, to ask about plans for publishing results on their internet site (http://cbc.ca/sports), I had this reply: >A web site (cbc.ca/olympics) will soon be "live" incorporating in-depth up >to the minute comprehensive Olympic coverage of the 2000 Sydney Summer >Games.

t-and-f: Cacho news

2000-08-28 Thread David Hitchcock
The Spanish online service Marca Digital is reporting that 1992 Olympic 1500m champ Fermin Cacho tore his Achilles tendon in yesterday's 1500 race in Padova, Italy. Cacho will likely miss the Sydney Olympics. It's a real shame, because Cacho always seems to put himself into position to place hig

Re: t-and-f: Ionela Tirlea?

2000-08-28 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/28/00 4:21:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Where's Ionela Tirlea this season? Does anyone know something about her? >> 51.84 for 4th in the Osaka GP is her only mark of hte year. gh

Re: t-and-f: Olympic Coverage & Napster

2000-08-28 Thread jdunaway
Your line of thought is why the organizers will search people coming into the stadia and refuse to allow anyone to bring a videocamera inside. Since videocams, etc., became common -- and small and cheap enough for nonprofessionals to use -- Olympic tickets have lots of small print forbidding a

Re: t-and-f: Olympic Coverage & Napster

2000-08-28 Thread Michael Casey
Netters, A US walk team competed in Ireland a few years back. 1997 or 1998 I think. A female member of the US Team wanted an Irish Tracksuit so I gave her mine. She said that she'd send me on one of hers when she got back to the US. This really thrilled my daughter now 9 years old who is mad keen

t-and-f: Olympic Coverage & Napster

2000-08-28 Thread Allen M James
Netters, After my post re: Olympic web sites, I began thinking of how we could organize a Olympic video napster. Obviously, I wasn't the only one think of that, thanks RT. Of course, I don't know who in their right minds listens to Metallica, but I suppose track fans often aren't in their right

SV: t-and-f: Now I get it

2000-08-28 Thread Jakob Larsen
I have been to Paris, Rome, Monaco and Brussels this year. IMHO Brussels was by far the best. /Jakob. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sendt: 26. august 2000 14:56 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: t-and-f: Now I get it In a message dated 8/24/

t-and-f: Ionela Tirlea?

2000-08-28 Thread Jakob Larsen
Where's Ionela Tirlea this season? Does anyone know something about her? /Jakob.