Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-30 Thread Conway
On Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:26 PM "Kurt Bray" said: Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records? The situations are not comparable. Ben Johnson was found guilty of cheating, so he and his marks were disqualified. The public certainly understands and accepts that and

t-and-f: Field Event Distance Conversion

2000-08-30 Thread Shawn Sorenson
Everyone, Call me crazy, but what the heck are people talking about with regard to an adjusted algorithm to take measurement factors into account? Every meet worldwide, with the exception of some non-championship, relatively unimportant, and certainly not reported to this list meets I've been

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-30 Thread Runtenkm
What is one of the biggest image problems of hte sport today for Mr John Q Public ?? The idea that everyone in the sport is using drugs .. I'm not really sure that John Q Public cares all that much about drug use in sports. Seems to be a media focal point and gets this list riled up but the

t-and-f: HARRISONS MAKING DOUBLE TROUBLE FOR OPPONENTS

2000-08-30 Thread Christopher Goss
HARRISONS MAKING DOUBLE TROUBLE FOR OPPONENTS BRISBANE, Australia (AP) - They think, talk, act and run alike -- and they're making history together. They're the Harrison brothers -- Alvin and Calvin -- the first twins to make a U.S. Olympic track team. "We've already made history by being the

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-30 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/30/00 8:05:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not? Because if you declare all the records drug-tainted and invalid you'll take down some major icons along with those evil commie cheaters - that's why. And some of those icons may hire lawyers to argue the point on their

Re: t-and-f: Ottey 10''99.

2000-08-30 Thread Conway
Looks like Ottey is bound and determined to run her way into the starting blocks for the Olympic 100 meters ! Conway Hill[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Michalis Nikitaridis To: Track Field Mailing list ; Athletics Sent: Wednesday, August 30,

Re: t-and-f: Ottey 10''99.

2000-08-30 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/30/00 11:04:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks like Ottey is bound and determined to run her way into the starting blocks for the Olympic 100 meters ! i want to know who it is they're planning on knocking off the team to put her on, and what the over/under is

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--looks like we finish a day early!

2000-08-30 Thread GHTFNedit
since we had a tie, insead of just a single today, there will be a pair for day 7: Meb Lojo And we were close to a 3-way tie. Escaping by the skin of his teeth yet again was a guy who has been no lower than No. 3 ever since day 3, but somehow manages to escape day after day. I'll ID him when

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--day 8

2000-08-30 Thread GHTFNedit
Dudes! you've got 24 hours (i.e., until noon PDT Thursday) to cut yet another Sacto champion from the dinner table. If you didn't vote previously, doesn't mean you can't vote now. And no, you don't have to say the same thing two days in a row. Here are the 9 remaining potential dinner guests

t-and-f: Drugs in Sport

2000-08-30 Thread Ken Parker
The comment " Sure we'd get rid of the East German marks that are documented to be dirty" was made in today's list. All GDR marks can be considered dirty. In 1977 I was in the GDR for 3 weeks as part of the first group of Western coaches and sports officials allowed into the country. They said

Re: t-and-f: HOMEMADE METRIC PERVERSION CALCULATORS

2000-08-30 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The metric conversion of 0.3048 to feet is precise; it is not a rounded estimate. It is actually better than that, it is exact. Now for something that may be hard for you metrically challenged people to hear: Sit down first. The foot is actually defined in terms

Re: t-and-f: ottey on the JAM team

2000-08-30 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/30/00 11:52:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The word at the JAM trials was that Beveryly Macdonald was only going to run the 200m at the games, thus clearing a spot for Ottey. story on www.sportserver.com on 8/14 said, "McDonald also qualified at 200m and she dropped

Re: t-and-f: HOMEMADE METRIC PERVERSION CALCULATORS

2000-08-30 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again, folks, all of these calculators and things are completely worthless if you do not understand how to convert. The Cray 1 will not give the right conversion without the right "fudge" added in!! Rather than do all of this work, why not just get a Green

Re: t-and-f: HOMEMADE METRIC PERVERSION CALCULATORS

2000-08-30 Thread DSchles
I have been using the simplest of methodologies to convert precisely meters to feet and inches, with nothing more than a simple pocket calculator. No spread sheet or computer program is necessary. The metric conversion of 0.3048 to feet is precise; it is not a rounded estimate. Enter meters

Re: t-and-f: Olympic Weather

2000-08-30 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/30/00 2:25:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With some of the recent performances we have seen coming out of some meets such as in Gateshead the other day, what type of weather will be expected in Sydney during the games ?? While there has been mention of the drought of

RE: t-and-f: Drugs in Sport

2000-08-30 Thread malmo
Sounds a lot like Eugene,OR during the same period, only the East Germans were less sophisticated! malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Parker Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:33 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: t-and-f:

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-30 Thread R.T.
the public's tolerance for playing fast and footlo0se with the ability to set records is immense. Perhaps there's a reason we stay a fringe (and get ever fringier) sport. You have to say it while holding your nose, so it comes out 'fridge', as in where Joe Six-Pack heads whenever the 5K comes

t-and-f: Re: Rome on the Tim Seaman story

2000-08-30 Thread Michael J. Roth
All: On Tim: Yes he gets "free" room board, in the sense that he does not have to work a "real job" to pay for it. The majority of his expenses are covered from the following sources: Mom Dad, USATF, USATF-LI, NYAC and various fundraising activities from the RW population which support the

t-and-f: wava tables

2000-08-30 Thread Michael Rohl
Netters This comment by me is a blatant attempt to cause trouble and havoc on the list. i do not believe what i am going to say and ignore it for the stupidity it is. however I know someone is already thinking it. You didn't ask, but Merlene's 10.99 at age 40 (into a slight wind) is worth

Re: t-and-f: some results from sweden (Greer misses again)

2000-08-30 Thread R.T.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:35:15 +1000, you wrote: Växjö, Sweden 29 augusti 2000 http://www.ifkvaxjo.g.se/FOLKSAM/index.htm M Spjut (Jav?) 1 Breaux Greer 76 USA 7916 2 Daniel Ragnvaldsson 76 IFK Strömsund 7055 3 Mikael Snällfot 80 Nedre Soppero IK 6944

Re: t-and-f: FW: AA Information Release - Notification of Doping Case

2000-08-30 Thread R.T.
I don't understand why it takes more than 10 months to suspend somebody who doesn't even choose to contest the finding or even request a hearing. RT On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:47:39 +1100 (EST), you wrote: Some stats lists from 1999 and 2000 - mine included - may need to be amended following this

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-30 Thread William Bahnfleth
This hardly seems like the answer. Too many non-whites in US football, basketball? Tiger Woods effect on the popularity of golf, the Williams sisters on tennis? If we think that's the solution, it really is evidence that we're out of the loop. Spectators (as opposed to participants or

RE: t-and-f: Talking tough

2000-08-30 Thread Andre Sammartino
Jai's a bit "out there" generally, and it is fair to say, he takes liberties even with Australian-English... Even as a native-speaker, i can only hazard a guess and suggest he means they are babies... or that they tend to spill their beers (a much bigger insult downunder)... Look out for

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-30 Thread Dan Kaplan
Can't say I agree. How many white champions has the NBA had since Larry Bird began his decline? 10+ years of popularity that kicks the butt of anything TF dreams of. The NFL became increasingly popular while becoming increasingly black, and the same could possibly be said for baseball, tennis,

Re: t-and-f: ottey on the JAM team

2000-08-30 Thread Wilmar K
Kebba Tolbert schreef: The word at the JAM trials was that Beveryly Macdonald was only going to run the 200m at the games, thus clearing a spot for Ottey. Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Word in the international media after the trials was that MacDonald had no intention of giving up her

Re: t-and-f: Brussels 10K

2000-08-30 Thread Wilmar K
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: There has been some discussion as to whether Felix Limo, listed as finishing second in the Brussels 10K, had actually been lapped. Part of the reasoning, obviously, is that Felix apparently did not have the credentials to be running anywhere near the front of such

Re: t-and-f: High-Low

2000-08-30 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 8/29/00 6:47:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if we have any Olympic team members, from the 1500m up, who used the "high-low" model for training Wasn't Suzy F-H using the tent also? Jim Gerweck Running Times

t-and-f: Ottey 10.99 in Greece, Lamela Jayasinghe back

2000-08-30 Thread Andre Sammartino
IAAF Permit Meeting, 30 Aug 2000, Thessaloniki, Greece MEN 100 m. 10''29. Denis Mitchel (USA); 10''32 Donovan Bailey (CAN); 10''36. Coby Miller (USA); 10''40. Davis Patros (FRA); 10''57. Aninos Markoulidis (CYP); 10''63. Roland Nemeth (HUN) 200 m. 20" 55. Cobby Miller (USA); 20" 72. Denis

t-and-f: Oops

2000-08-30 Thread Andre Sammartino
oops, should sayThessaloniki results from http://www.eexi.gr/athletix/Salonika2000.html André Sammartino Reckon you know your stuff? Come try our Olympics track and field tipping comp http://surf.to/bayside

t-and-f: Sydney weather

2000-08-30 Thread Bruce Glikin
For all of you 'Celsius challenged' listers, here's a snapshot of the type of 'Fahrenheit' weather to be expected in Sydney this September. My source is Intellicast, a dot.com weather service. Take it for what it's worth. September in Sydney: Record low: 41 degrees Normal low: 51 degrees

RE: t-and-f: Olympic Weather

2000-08-30 Thread THOMAS,Graham
Try this link http://www.olympic.bom.gov.au/olympic/ Olympic weather support - with years of historic trends for Sydney weather in September. First forecasts for the specific Olympic Park area will be available over the weekend. Here's the current forecast for Sydney: SYDNEY OUTLOOK FOR THE

RE: t-and-f: Olympic Weather

2000-08-30 Thread Steve Bennett
It is beautiful here in Sydney today and things could get even better. However we could easily have a cold change and rain , wind etc even in Summer. My guess is you will see the range of weather while the Olympics is on. The most likely problem will be wind and this could spoil woorld records on

t-and-f: Gateshead 4x100

2000-08-30 Thread Peter Matthews
Title: Gateshead 4x100 Conway Hill asked: A US team won the 4x1 at Gateshead in a nice 37.95 .. Does anyone know who the personnel was on that team ?? Result was: 4x100: 1 USA (all HSI) (Drummond, Williams, C Johnson, Greene) 37.95 2 GBR (Chambers, Campbell, Devonish, Gardener) 38.35 3, GBR B

t-and-f: Brussels 10K

2000-08-30 Thread DLTFNedit
There has been some discussion as to whether Felix Limo, listed as finishing second in the Brussels 10K, had actually been lapped. Part of the reasoning, obviously, is that Felix apparently did not have the credentials to be running anywhere near the front of such a race. His previous PR's

t-and-f: Hickman's 3K

2000-08-30 Thread DLTFNedit
Don't forget that Hickman ran a 1:11:01 half-marathon to win Parkersburg just 9 days before her awesome run in Gateshead. sideshow

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

2000-08-30 Thread northam
Why not !! What is one of the biggest image problems of hte sport today for Mr John Q Public ?? Why are those of us that love track and field so worried about Joe Public? If the vast majority don't like our sport, so what? I know it's nice that other people like something you like, but for

Re: t-and-f: Conversion Lesson [was List Supervisor ...]

2000-08-30 Thread Ssd
With this method, just make sure you understand that you are getting only an approximation. You are not truly doing the conversion correctly. All such conversions require a "fudge" factor, which I have fully explained in the preface to the Green Book, Gold Book, Blue Book, etc. You have to

Re: t-and-f: Writers needed.

2000-08-30 Thread magpie
item on the upcoming c.u. xc meet and season: http://thedailycamera.com/buffzone/sports/30cuxc.html == "In a big country, dreams stay with you, like a lover's voice, 'cross a mountainside . . . " - Big Country _ i-run.com - your

t-and-f: Olympic Weather

2000-08-30 Thread Conway
With some of the recent performances we have seen coming out of some meets such as in Gateshead the other day, what type of weather will be expected in Sydney during the games ?? While there has been mention of the drought of records so far this year, there will be no guarantee in Sydney if the