Re: t-and-f: speaking of stupid rules....

In a message dated 1/25/01 8:58:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At least we were only stuck with one year (as I recall) with one of the great abominations ever, the 4-turn stagger in the 800 back in the mid-'70s. When the first synthetic track was installed in Downing Stadium on NY's

t-and-f: On 3/4 turn staggers

Netters: The 800R is still run in lanes all the way at the Penn Relays. This can make the race hard to follow, but it can also lead to something like what happened at the '79 meet. Texas, I believe, had the lead as the final runners touched off. Maryland was not only outside the Texans

t-and-f: another HS record for Webb?

Alan Webb's coach, Scott Raczko, mentioned that he'll be running the 1000 meters this Saturday at Virginia Tech and thinks he can break the HS record. The indoor HSR is 2:23.85 by George Kersh, set in 1987. Marty Post Senior Editor Runner's World Magazine www.runnersworld.com

t-and-f: meet information

Does anyone on the list have any contact information for the Vienna Indoor Meet in Austria, to be held on February 12, 2001? Stephen Francis

Re: t-and-f: On 3/4 turn staggers

Ed Grant wrote: Netters: The 800R is still run in lanes all the way at the Penn Relays. This can make the race hard to follow, but it can also lead to something like what happened at the '79 meet. Texas, I believe, had the lead as the final runners touched off. Maryland was

Re: t-and-f: On 3/4 turn staggers

Anchor leg like that? Got to be Skeets. Bruce Meyer KUKIMBIA Chicago

Re: t-and-f: On 3/4 turn staggers

Of course the Maryland star was none other than Reynaldo "Skeets" Nehemiah. In those days, the Terps had their names on the back of their uniforms. This was done in press-on letters and Nehemiah's said "Skeets." This was far from a perfect process. One day the last letter had fallen off and it

Re: t-and-f: On 3/4 turn staggers

Gotta be Skeets.. Keith Whitman Head Cross Country Coach Assistant Track Field Coach University of Nebraska at Kearney Office (308) 865-8070 Home (308) 338-1115 http://www.unk.edu/athletics/track/ Fax # (308) 865-8187

t-and-f: re: Etiquette vs. Rules

At the Big 10 indoors in '87 or so, Scott Fry ran 14:00 for 5k. Lapped runners were yanked by the officials. Including those on 14:40 pace! Not a large finishers list in that one. Seemed a bit harsh, but also seems wrong to force the fastest to slow down to deal with the slower. As someone said,

Re: t-and-f: re: Etiquette vs. Rules

In a message dated Fri, 26 Jan 2001 1:45:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, The Barretts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Regarding relay splits: The Sac State track has (had?) the best setup I've seen for relay spectating/officiating, and an easy solution at that: different colored track in the relay

t-and-f: Etiquette vs. Rules -- lapped runners

It is more of a hazard for lapped runners to move out of their lane. Otherwise: 1. The runner may or may not hear that he is about to be lapped. 2. the runner lapping him doesn't know if he knows and consequently doesn't know which lane to use. 3. If the ruuner being lapped moves out, he

t-and-f: Death of a Sportsman

Netters: I was saeened a few minutes ago to head of the death of Al McGuire, who, while best known for his basketball exploits as player, coach and commentator, had a onetime connectionm with our sport, of which more later. I will always remember McGuire for two incidents that occurred

Re: t-and-f: re: Etiquette vs. Rules

As I remember the Big Ten indoor rule (forgive me, I don't have a book in front of me), it states that lapped runners must leave the track until the race is down to a certain number of competitors. My interpretation is that interference with the leaders is not the reason for the rule. It is

Re: t-and-f: re: Etiquette vs. Rules

It is even more interesting when the lapped athletes refuse to step off the track and you get officials trying to physically remove them. Great entertainment. Kevin Sullivan In a message dated 1/26/01 2:31:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I remember the Big Ten

Re: t-and-f: Etiquette vs. Rules -- lapped runners

In terms of history, I remember that during the early 60's in the National AAU Indoor championships, lapped runners were required to drop out until there were only as many left as there were medals. Pat Palmer Early in my running career (early 70's) I was on pace for sub-9

RE:t-and-f: speaking of stupid rules....

a private poster said: I think you meant the "2-turn stagger", [yeah i did, not 4-turn] which was ugly enough...and ruined much of the joy of watching the 1976 Montreal 800. Another private poster said: Actually, 4x400 run basically a one turn stagger indoors they break after about 150 or 2

Re: t-and-f: Etiquette vs. Rules -- lapped runners

So, number one runner is the class of the field and is way ahead. His placing is a foregone conclusion. Number two is half a lap back, and three and four are staging a hot duel just short of a lap back. Number one passes three and four and the one of those two who momentarily happens to

Re: t-and-f: Death of a Sportsman

Sad day indeed. Let me second Mr. Grant's words and add a few of my own. The year that Marquette won the NCAA Basketball Championship was 1977, at the Omni in Atlanta. No, I'm not looking this up, its in my messed up little head. This is my very first sports memory of any kind, I was a few

Re: t-and-f: re: Etiquette vs. Rules

Christopher Goss wrote: As I remember the Big Ten indoor rule (forgive me, I don't have a book in front of me), it states that lapped runners must leave the track until the race is down to a certain number of competitors. My interpretation is that interference with the leaders is not the

t-and-f: Sad news

Received word today that former NCAA 100M champion Sam Jefferson of the University of Houston passed away.

RE:t-and-f: speaking of stupid rules....

Garry suggested: Actually, my nomination (sorry for boring those who might remember my annual posting on this line) for fixing the 400 is to replace it with the 500. Great idea! Then we can also replace the 800 with the 1000, and the 1500 will finally make some sense! Although thinking

Re: RE:t-and-f: speaking of stupid rules....

Phil wrote: Garry suggested: Actually, my nomination (sorry for boring those who might remember my annual posting on this line) for fixing the 400 is to replace it with the 500. Great idea! Then we can also replace the 800 with the 1000, and the 1500 will finally make some sense!

t-and-f: Speaking of Stupid Rules II

last weekend I re-watched the coverage from this past Olympics .. And I noticed that while the John Capel non call for a false start was the most glaring, there were several problems (as noted by the announcers) with recalls/non recalls during the course of the competition .. Why the reliance on

Re: t-and-f: Speaking of Stupid Rules II

The false start detection system was created and used to produce a reaction time number to compare against the "legal limit" regardless of whether the starter uses it or not. It is a reference. The question is, should the reaction times even be disclosed unless there is a false start? The advent

t-and-f: HS Milers

Dave Merrick went to Penn . . . is still the collegiate record holder at Van Cortlandt 5mi in 23:51. In addition he ran 28:49 in the 10k I believe, also a Penn record. --Josh Seeherman Penn TF ~ Joshua Seeherman School of Engineering and Applied

Fw: t-and-f: Devil Take the Hindmost

I don't know about the world record, but this event used to be almost a staple on theUS indoor circuit in the 60's and 70's. Got many milers in meets who otherwise wouldn't have been invited to run. Floyd Highfill -Original Message- From: T. Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

t-and-f: Death of a sportsman

I share Ed's sadness at the passing of the legendary coach and announcer, Al McGuire. One of my favorite Al McGuire stories, slightly related to running, was when he told viewers how his PE instructor used to distinguish between future basketball players and future football players. According to

t-and-f: Va Tech Day 1 highlights

Big race for Stephen Haas. 3200 1. -Stephen Haas, North Mecklenburg, Huntersville, NC 9:06.97 (8:35.3 3k) 2. *Matt Keally, Ocean Lakes, Virginia Beach, VA 9:22.41 3. -Chris Elder, Cardinal Gibbons, Raleigh, NC 9:25.47 2 other big marks: Women's PV 1. -Lacy Janson, Cardinal Mooney, Sarasota, FL