I posted something along these lines to the list about 2-3 years ago.
The Fenners track at Cambridge University, which was used for competition
up until about 1960 when the 400 metre track at Milton Road was built, was
one where the runners went around clockwise. This may have been to
optimise
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Darrell, it is possible that you can defend the use of supplements, but
not by talking about how foods have lost their nutritional value by being
processed. This is a totally circular argument---foods are spoiled by
chemical processing, so you want to fill your body with chemicals made by
the
aren't these "children" a little old to still be in high school?
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Date: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:09 PM
Subject: t-and-f: Jamaican high school championships
This has gone curiously
In order to get the needed amount of protein we need you have to eat a
healthy
amount of beef, this is not a good thing for those attempting to run 9.9 and
10.7. Beef is difficult to digest, and sits in the system. In other words,
supplements are needed by all, not just athletes, and it
From the New York Road Runners Club:
"In the first significant New York City Marathon course change in more than
10 years, race director Allan Steinfeld announced that the 2001 NYC Marathon
race course will no longer enter Central Park at 102nd Street and 5th
Avenue, but instead will continue on
Folks,
A truly obscure request: once upon a time, many years ago, I had one of
those old Nike posters from the 70s or early 80s (pre-Air, I think) that had
the guy with the beard and the long hair running uphill along a country
road, silhouetted against the camera, with the downhill in the
In a message dated 04/10/2001 6:09:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Why not be honest and say that what supplement users are trying to do is
to artificially enhance their bodies in a way that is "legal" by the
current definition of legal. If people are willing to trust
Actually you agree with me. Your argument is full of what if's. The facts
are opposite of what you write. If people ate fresh foods. If they did not
eat fast foods. People do eat processed foods. They love fast foods.
I will take it a step further, anyone ever travel on the European circuit?
Hi Darrell,
First of all I never suggested and am not suggesting
that supplement users are cheats. What I am saying is
that yes many many people get everything they need
without using supplements. People do eat fresh foods,
they love fresh foods. Yes the people who eat junk
need supplements to
Funny ... I started this thread because I saw the show on television and saw it as an opportunity to say that "people in the sport are not cheating" ... And that a lot of negativity that has fallen on the sport in the past couple of years may have indeed been misdirected ... But somehow we
Go for it Darrell!!
Conway Hill wrote:
Funny ... I started this thread because I saw the show on television
and saw it as an opportunity to say that "people in the sport are not cheating"
... And that a lot of negativity that has fallen on the sport in the past
couple of years may have indeed
PI think we all know that athletes get much more exercise, are under much more
physical stress, and place much more burden on their bodies than the average person
... As such the "average daily requirements" that the average slug American needs are
going to be inadequate for a high school
In a message dated 4/10/01 12:59:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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In a message dated Mon, 9 Apr 2001 7:32:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
"malmo"
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I have strong suspicians that a skinny Norwegean broad could possibly
run
30:13 clean.
CAN that additional content be obtained by eating additional organic food,
or are there undesired side effects-
in other words, if what you need is found in bananas, but in eating
THAT many bananas you'd spend all your training time on the throne...
...well you get the idea.
Anybody know?
RT
--- "Mcewen, Brian T" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If an athlete wants to take ... Creatine ... or other
esoteric "supplements" not normally found in food
Huh?
Dan
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Hi Bruce,
I don't know about e but it is certainly possible to get more than enough C
from food alone. Citrus fruits, Blackcurrants, Potatos (Not chipped and
fried). I've researched the C one and you can quite easily get twice the rda
from food.
Mike
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Just
because some people do not have a good diet and are therefore missing essential
nutrients does not mean that one can not recieve, as you claimed, all the
nutrition required from a healthy well balanced diet. Talk to a dietitician,
talk to numerous atthletes who do not take supplements
Hi Brian,
You're right it is all about convenience. Its also about choice and
healthy options. I personally would rather eat the natural foods than
putting protein powder into my system.
The original claim was that it was impossible for someone to get enough
protein from food alone. That
It is my understanding that it is difficult to get enough of certain
vitamins such as C and E
from food alone, especially for those under stress, such as highly trained
athletes.
Something to consider:
10,000 years ago, before SUV's roamed the earth and long before anyone had
ever seen a
Netters
If I may I would like to comment on the issue of supplement, soil quality and diet.
Two years ago I worked operating a spectrometer for one of the two largest soil and feed testing labs in the U.S. I ran an average of 350 feed sample test per day and some 1000+ soil samples. I
I think most people chose organic produce in an effort to
avoid the pesticides on "normal" produce (I know that's why
I do). There is growing evidence that pesticides/herbicides
are endocrine system disruptors, and may have negative
effects with long term consuption.
Bruce Goodchild.
If I may
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Well
said michael,
A few
added points, even the fish oil can be got naturally by eating Mackerel, herring
or other "oily" fish. Potassium can be got in abundance in your diet if you
choose the right foods. My experience is that if some thought is put into your
diet you can have all the
From: "Mcewen, Brian T" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Something to consider:
10,000 years ago, before SUV's roamed the earth and long before anyone had
ever seen a Vitamin C tablet ... there were STILL humans walking around,
and
they STILL needed to have vitamins in their bodies to live and thrive.
If you don't have any proof that I've EVER said she was doping (either
publicly or privately) keep YOUR uninformed comments to yourself.
malmo
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honor to HSI's 4x1 from Texas, with a most-notable 37.88. The release noted that the
time was 0.48 off the WR, but more notable--and i don't know if anybody else mentioned
it before--note that it was a mere 0.09 off the "club WR," of 37.79 set by an august
Santa Monica TC bunch 10 years ago.
www.ncaa.org only gets you as far as the home page; to get to the regionals story (the
full story) you need to navigate a bit.
Hit "all the news" under the track story on the home page.
on the next page hit "news and features"
on the next page hit the third item down "keeping track of the
http://www.ncaa.org/
Regionals are here!
yeah.
gh
Forgive my lack of numbers, I have nutritionist for that information.
But some misconceptions have to be stopped. Brian made a very good point
that is being ignored, it takes a lot more food to get the same amount of
protein from a drink.
The people we are talking about have the best diets, and
Hi,
I agree completely with what you wrote. Information is better hot than cold
or iced.
But the true question is : how long can you pass two or three hours/a day to
update your site during your leisure time ?
I decided last year in september to begin my site about national records
because I
The CNN.SI Athletics site is still up, although not updated very often
during the off-season:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/athletics/index.html
Kurt Bray
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Does anyone purport to know:
1. How the 4 geographic regions will be delineated?
2. How an athlete qualifies for the regional meet (other than the reference
to conference champions)?
Or have these details yet to be worked out?
Floyd Highfill
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Don't forget that those who ran the 100m slower than 13 seconds were called
"lunch". ;)
malmo
They rarely lived past 30 years and the 100m record
was way over 11 seconds.
Sorry.
Barto.
10,000 years ago, before SUV's roamed the earth and
long before anyone had
ever seen a Vitamin
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note that it was a mere 0.09 off the "club WR," of 37.79 set by an august
Santa Monica TC bunch 10 years ago.
Yeah, and that was august. This was only april.
The regions will run north to south. The largest number of schools are found in
the eastern region,
which stretches from Maine to Florida. I believe that there will be qualifying
standards to get into
the regional meet, in addition to conference champions being admitted. Details
are still
Hello to all...
As a soil scientist that has done research on organic production systems, I
need to make a few quick comments about this soil quality/nutritional
quality thread. First let me mention that my e-mail account was dead for
much of the last 4 days so I probably missed some of the
www.mariusbakken.com is a great TF website! Check it out if you don't know
it yet.
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Subject: t-and-f: Track and Field web sites
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:31:47
Much as I respect and usually agree with GH and others who are cheering for
this abominable NCAA move, all I have to say is:
Wow, thank goodness we will now have more cannon fodder filling the fields. I
really missed not having slow sprinters/short jumpers at the ultimate NCAA
TF competition.
Greetings, all
Emil Magallanes writes that he needs a meet for masters 4xMile record
attempt. Anyone out there able to accommodate him? Thanks for your attention.
Ken Stone
Emil writes:
The Reebok Aggie Masters would like to make an attempt at the WR/AR in
the 4x1500/1600/mile. The
In a message dated Tue, 10 Apr 2001 8:10:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "nad wilson"
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Thats what i like to hear. Will this be implemented by next year? It says 2002, but
does that mean the 2002 school year or next indoor/outdoor?
applies only to the outdoor meet, so
while NCAA people won't be chasing nationals Q's with the same fervor they did in the
past, obviously the frenetic pursuit of mark-based qualifying will now be shifted to
the Regionals, where presumably even more athletes will have a realistic shot at
qualifying.
or will there be no such
Greetings, all:
The one SoCal masters meet I decide to skip produces some HUGE news:
Reynaldo Brown is back.
Jason Meisler, a 7-2ish jumper in his UCLA days and now a masters straddler,
reports that Rey Brown, the 1968 Olympian as a Compton HS jumper, competed
this past Sunday (4/8/01) at
www.belllap.org is updated every day with all the top headline news from
around the TF world on its homepage (right side of the page).
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At the end of the year
Mcewen, Brian T wrote:
It is my understanding that it is difficult to get enough of certain
vitamins such as C and E
from food alone, especially for those under stress, such as highly trained
athletes.
Something to consider:
10,000 years ago, before SUV's roamed the earth and long
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