t-and-f: Webb and the NCAAs

2001-06-03 Thread Brian McGuire
Interesting to note that Bryan Berryhill, the NCAA champion in the 1500, was beaten only the week before by Alan Webb at the Pre meet. Nationals should be very interesting. Brian McGuire

t-and-f: Did I die and go to heaven???

2001-06-03 Thread DLTFNedit
Back from a week of amazing track & field in Oregon. Pre/NCAA/Portland. I can't remember ever being more excited about the sport. Maybe a better week than seeing 2 10K WR's back in '93 or witnessing Zurich/Brussels/Cologne distance madness in '97. Not only did we have three great meets in one w

Re: t-and-f: results : 2001 adidas Oregon Track Classic

2001-06-03 Thread Michael Scott
Ed & Dana Parrot wrote >Any more info on this? Was it windy? What was the opening height. While >one would expect the new rule to result in lower heights, this seems a bit >ridiculous. > >Maybe they did it on purpose to ensure that the rule doesn't get adopted >(I'm kidding)! > Fairly light wi

t-and-f: re: automatic timing in 1 9 5 2

2001-06-03 Thread P. N. Heidenstrom
On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:28:12 +0300 (IDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: t-and-f: "Automatic" timing in 1 9 5 2 Not in 1952! The hand timing in 1952 was horrible! Look up Bob Sparks' deciphering of ET . the quartet of runners given 10.4 and the two (Sukhraev, treloar) given 10.5 in the 10

Re: t-and-f: Webb

2001-06-03 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
A couple days ago, I finally got to see the mile on TV. Webb's performance was even more incredible in the watching. You hate to put even higher expectations on the kid, but he sure looked under control, like there is more there. I got the impression that he didn't really know what he was capab

Re: t-and-f: results : 2001 adidas Oregon Track Classic

2001-06-03 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
> Final MEN'S POLE VAULT SOBE > event used IAAF 2 miss rule (GP II test) 1. Pat > Manson, USA 5.35m (17-06.50); - Lawrence Johnson, USA NH; - Derek Miles, USA > NH; - Russ Buller, USA NH; - Tim Mack, USA NH. Any more info on this? Was it windy? What was the opening

t-and-f: Pre Videocassette Wanted

2001-06-03 Thread Chas. L. Shaffer
Returning home from 6 days of t-and-f in Oregon over 8 days, I found that my neighborhood experienced an electrical outage on Sun., May 27, and thus my VCR did not successfully videotape the Prefontaine Classic from Fox Sports Net. If anyone would be able to make a copy for me or loan me a ta

t-and-f: 2 miss rule

2001-06-03 Thread mjroth
Oh well, I guess the Mens' PV in Oregon puts an end to this experiment? Completely ridiculous that such a field has only one successful vaulter and he jumps 5.35 (17' 6.5") That might lose to some HS kids. MJR

t-and-f: Lewis ready to call the shots again

2001-06-03 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Monday 4 June 2001 Tom Knight IN THE moments after Denise Lewis and Katharine Merry opened their seasons with appearances for their club in a British League match in Birmingham, the contrast between the two could not have been greater. Competing for Birchfield Harrier

t-and-f: Webb

2001-06-03 Thread Cordner3
I wasn't going to say anything, because anything starts arguments here, but since Garry has put me on the spot with this: "pps--maybe Cordner Nelson will be able to log on later while in Eugene and provide some insight from the point of view of somebody who has seen it all, but he did say

Re: t-and-f: results : 2001 adidas Oregon Track Classic

2001-06-03 Thread Randy Treadway
>2001 adidas Oregon Track Classic >Gresham Oregon >06/03/01 >Final MEN'S 3,000 METER STEEPLECHASE HORIZON 1. El >Arbi Khattabi, Morocco 8:12.95; 2. Stephen Cherono, Kenya 8:22.98; 3. >Anthony Famiglietti, USA 8:23.20; 4. Tim Broe, USA 8:26.56; 5. Tom Chorny, >USA 8:27.4

t-and-f: Dutch

2001-06-03 Thread Cordner3
It would seem that all of the greatest Dutch athletes are >women. Perhaps Jon Entine has an answer.

t-and-f: Drafting

2001-06-03 Thread Cordner3
Somebody wrote, about Webb: If the record is so good that it needs elite-level drafting, Nobody drafted Webb. He was too far back for a long time and then he went past world-class men so fast that the only draft was what they felt as he whipped by.

t-and-f: Results; Kalamata, Greece

2001-06-03 Thread Kebba Tolbert
2 June 2001 – Kalamata, Greece from iaaf.org Results: Men 100 m. Race 1. (+2.8 m/s). 10. 14. Dwain Chambers (GBR); 10. 25. Aris Gavelas (GRE); 10.37. Tommi Hartonen (FIN); 10. 43. Constantin Rurak (UKR); 10. 80. AlexandrosTerzian (GRE); 18. 60. Gennadiy Chernovol (KZK) 200 m. Race 1. (+0.1 m

t-and-f: 1 for 11

2001-06-03 Thread Christopher Goss
1 make and 10 misses...can we please go ahead and forget this format forever? [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ 06/03/01 3:59 PM2001 adidas Oregon Track Classic Mt. Hood Community College, Gresham, Ore. - Sunday 06/03/01 Event 11 Men's Pole Vault SoBe Field

t-and-f: results : 2001 adidas Oregon Track Classic

2001-06-03 Thread Kebba Tolbert
2001 adidas Oregon Track Classic Gresham Oregon 06/03/01 Final WOMEN'S 200 METER DASH VERIZON 1. LaTasha Jenkins, USA 22.40 w:2.9; 2. Merlene Frazier, Jamaica 23.45 w:2.9; 3. Fali Ogunkoya, Nigeria 23.48 w:2.9; 4. Astia Walker, Jamaica 23.66 w:2.9;5. Fatima

Re: t-and-f: NCAA indicator boards

2001-06-03 Thread JimRTimes
Can you imagine going to any baseball game, from your local Little League to Yankee Stadium, and having the scoreboard displays balls, strikes, outs, hits & errors, but not runs? That's kind of the situation that exists in track. I for one was stunningly impressed by the FinishLynx scoreboards

t-and-f: Czech TF Marketing efforts ?

2001-06-03 Thread Bob Ramsak
Hi All, So here's an interesting marketing angle from the Czech Athletics Federation..  Go to http://www.olt.cz/atletika/atletika800/welcome.htm  and check out their front page logo...   I know very little Czech, so I have no idea what the logo refers to...   ---

RE: t-and-f: Thoughts on the "five alive"

2001-06-03 Thread Bettwy, Bob
Ed Gordon makes some greats points in his recent post. As an announcer, I find his final statement ("The ones most confused by this procedure are the fans and the stadium announcer") to be 'oh so accurate'! He is right on. Why? First, "five alive" is NOT handled the same by all officials. B

t-and-f: Calif St HS Meet 2 Nat'l Rec's - Ryan Hall 4:02 1600

2001-06-03 Thread DougSpeck
Great action at the Calif St HS Meet in Sacto 6/1 and 6/2 Two National Records (Girls PV & Girls 4x400) Ryan Hall 4:02 1600 Results, Stories, Pictures at: http://www.prep.caltrack.com/";>Click here: Prep.Caltrack St Meet Coverage Doug Speck

t-and-f: Fake Plastic Trees (apologies to Radiohead)

2001-06-03 Thread malmo
Fake Plastic Trees A black plastic nursery-stock pot For a fake western cedar tree On a fake plastic track That she bought from a running doc In a town full of track fanatics To get ready for the worlds It wears her out, it wears her out It wears her out, it wears her out She lives with a

RE: t-and-f: Nostradomalmo predicts

2001-06-03 Thread malmo
Better see what the Aggies book has 'em. 19th street Café, Gaming Center and Bacchanal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Randy Treadway Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Nostradomalmo predicts

Re: t-and-f: Nostradomalmo predicts

2001-06-03 Thread Randy Treadway
Who'll be back first, GH or D-W-I-G-H-T ? the book in Vegas says both will be back within 90 days. RT On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:38:43 -0400, Malmo wrote: >He'll be back within 10 days. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: t-and-f: s'bin fun

2001-06-03 Thread Roger Ruth
>my final analysis of the NCAA posted shortly at www.trackanfieldnews.com > >and as i exit Eugene, i once again depart from the list. > >gh (now a lurker) Cheers! Drop in again, sometime. Maybe for the U.S. nationals and the world championships? The list could use your background info. And bring

t-and-f: Nostradomalmo predicts

2001-06-03 Thread malmo
He'll be back within 10 days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: s'bin fun my final analysis of the NCAA posted shortly at www.trackanfieldnews.c

t-and-f: UTEP @ NCAA's

2001-06-03 Thread drew.armiger
5/30/01 Jäppenin Takes Second In Javelin; Miners Send Four To Finals At NCAA Championships http://athletics.utep.edu/news/archive/053001tf1.htm 5/31/01 Vartia Finishes Fourth, Three More Advance In Prelims At NCAA Champs http://athletics.utep.edu/news/archive/053101tf1.htm 6/1/01 Six More Miners

Re: t-and-f: NJ Group meet

2001-06-03 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
>    The public school meet did not get by without some more official idiocy. This time, it was the disqualification of a 3200M girl runner >for "showing her navel" The rules required shirts to be tucked in and hers was at the start of the race but pulled loose during the >competition.

t-and-f: auto-timing

2001-06-03 Thread Ed Grant
Netters:       The first time I recall auto-timing becoming a matter of public discussion followed Frank Budd's WR 9.2 at the AAU championships in NYC (either 1961 or 1962),. That race was auto-timed by the Bulova system and Jesse Abramson, among others, reported that it was clocked that wa

t-and-f: NJ Group meet

2001-06-03 Thread Ed Grant
Netters:     The New Jersey HS group hampionships were held over the weekend in, to say the least, indifferent conditons The Friday session at Egg Harbor Twp was marked by periods of rain, wind and very chilly temperatures---about 40 degrees below last year when we sweltered in 95+ humi

t-and-f: s'bin fun

2001-06-03 Thread GHTFNedit
my final analysis of the NCAA posted shortly at www.trackanfieldnews.com and as i exit Eugene, i once again depart from the list. gh (now a lurker)

Re: t-and-f: NCAA TV SCHEDULE (SUNDAY 3RD) ?????

2001-06-03 Thread WMurphy25
The NCAA meet airs next week (June 10) Walt Murphy

t-and-f: Movie Alert

2001-06-03 Thread Ed Grant
Netters:     This is for any movie (and track) fans out there. Today at 2 p.m. (I realize the notice is short, but just learned of the scheduling myself), the Bravo Channel is showing "Black orpheaus," a film set in the Rio carnival period circa 1960 or so. The attraction for track fans

t-and-f: NCAA TV SCHEDULE (SUNDAY 3RD) ?????

2001-06-03 Thread Paul Nisius
Just curious if the NCAA's are supposed to be shown today (June 3rd) as shown below? My tv schedule shows an hour long golf special, and then four hours more of golf (Memorial Tourney) on CBS. JOY! Paul Nisius Bigfork, MN Note: forwarded message attached. ___

t-and-f: Sprinter focuses on human race

2001-06-03 Thread Conning
Australian star quietly volunteers with Portland homeless center C.W. Nevius San Francisco Chronicle Saturday, June 2, 2001 "Eight months ago, Australian sprinter Cathy Freeman won a gold medal in the Sydney Olympic Games.  On Monday, she will ride her bike down a Portland, Oregon, street to rep

t-and-f: NCAA hurdle DNFs

2001-06-03 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 6/2/01 18:08:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: <> as i make it,first time 3 DNFs ever in NCAA 110H history. Going back to 1922 there wre always atleast 6 finishers, and Dave Johnson pretty sure the 5 finishers I have listed for htat year(and1921) reflect everyone who ran gh

t-and-f: Grote's Breath of Fresh Air

2001-06-03 Thread John Molvar
It was great to see an honest and refreshing opinion on things instead of the standard statist mantra. Grote wrote: What I'm doing is looking out for #1...me. Thats right, I'm a selfish, capitalist bastard. More people and organizations should do this. Instead of charity work, USATF shou

Re: t-and-f: "Automatic" timing in 1 9 5 2

2001-06-03 Thread goldbu1
Not in 1952! The hand timing in 1952 was horrible! Look up Bob Sparks' deciphering of ET . the quartet of runners given 10.4 and the two (Sukhraev, treloar) given 10.5 in the 100m final actually ran over 10.70! UG Quoting "P. N. Heidenstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:36

t-and-f: NY Times Webb

2001-06-03 Thread Martin J. Dixon
"On Saturday, he ran the fourth-fastest 800 meters by an American high school runner, 1:47.74, in the Virginia Group AAA state meet in Richmond." Fyi. Regards, Martin http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/03/sports/03WEBB.html

t-and-f: Re:An article on Webb with quotes from Sullivan and Warhurst

2001-06-03 Thread Martin J. Dixon
I wonder what other schools Webb considered given his parents' background? Clearly, the musings about his future were purely hypothetical if they have any say in the matter. Regards, Martin

t-and-f: "Automatic" timing

2001-06-03 Thread P. N. Heidenstrom
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, quoting Charlie Francis' book, Speed Trap, ". . . But in 1968, when the IAAF began to make the transition from hand to electronic timing, it bungled the job. As an electronic clock would start the instant the gun w

t-and-f: WAVA Brisbane a drug battleground?

2001-06-03 Thread TrackCEO
Greetings, all: WAVA President Torsten Carlius of Sweden is running unopposed for his second and final term of office at the Brisbane General Assembly in July. But that doesn't mean he won't face a fight. Carlius has taken a hard stand against doping in masters track, even with evidence that