Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

alan tobin writes: > That is precisely the reason why Kenya has so many good runners because they > have thousands more who burnout or get injuried. At a young age they train, > train, train and those who make it go on to greatness and those who don't > lay burned out or injuried on the sideli

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Thank you Malmo... I addressed this already :-) Mike >From: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods, >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:47:42 EST > > > > >To become proficient at running yo

RE: t-and-f: believe it or not

I heard the same stories, but have not seen Obea since last track season (2000) to ask him what he is doing as related to track. It really is a shame if he wastes all that talent and gives it up for good. Gerald -Original Message- From: Conway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,

Re: RE: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated

> >> 7. What would be his role today - coach, official, agent, promoter, > >> commentator, or some combination?>> > > > > > >bartender > > > > at the Silver Dollar Club. > I think he would have been co-owner by now, with Lindgren.

Re: t-and-f: Results - Berlin 5K (screaming! fast)

--- Kebba Tolbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > wow... so here's my problem... if Yegorova is "dirty" and Radlciffe > is screaming bloody murder up and down what does it say for those > who almost broke the world record as well... There was supposedly a rumor going around Edmonton that people wer

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

First thing that popped into my mind after this thread began is Alan Webb. He would currently seem to be our prime successful example of one who started at an early age and trained hard who's now head and shoulders above most others in the U.S. in terms of his development. However, a key point is

t-and-f: Berlin Long Jump

Hello, The result below was indeed as the IAAF send it out to their press distribution list. Is is in fact the one that I still found on the IAAF internet site about an hour ago. German television had an interview with Busemann though in which he told that an appeal by Pedroso was granted and a wi

t-and-f: USATF Release: Johnson strikes gold in Berlin

Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track & Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, August 31, 2001 Johnson strikes gold in Berlin INDIANAPOLIS - With his win

t-and-f: Berlin/ISATF - full results

Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Men's and Women's Jumps & Multis Coach Syracuse University Track & Field IAAF Golden League ISTAF '01 Berlin, 31-Aug-2001 RESULTS MEN 100 METRES - MEN Wind: +0.6 1 Obikwelu Francis NG

t-and-f: Results - Berlin 5K (screaming! fast)

results discussed below Wow, Berlin had a screaming women's 5k. official Result (note: WR is 14:28.09) Women - 5000 METRES Yegorova Olga RUS 14:29.32 (#2 all time) Wami Gete ETH 14:31.69 (#6 all time) Radcliffe Paula GBR 14:32.44 (# 9 all time) Tomashova Tatyana RUS 14:3

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

> >To become proficient at running you need to have ongoing barf sessions. Not exactly what the average kid is looking for for entertainment. > >gh > If you are barfing you are not doing it right. malmo

Re: RE: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated

>> The more interesting question this thread raises to me is not how to >> characterize Pre but what he would have done if he had lived. >> >> 7. What would be his role today - coach, official, agent, promoter, >> commentator, or some combination?>> > > >bartender > at the Silver Dollar Cl

t-and-f: USATF News & Notes: August 31, 2001

Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track & Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News & Notes Volume 2, Number 78August 31, 2001 Gray sets U.S. leader Trinity Gray ran the fastest

t-and-f: Davis Mediacl Update-II

I simply can't thank enough those of you who have conveyed best wishes about my medical report. I can't answer all of you individually. I just want you all to know how grateful I am to have such nice friends and so many of them as well. I am most appreciative. Again, thanks much! Scott

Re: t-and-f: young distance WR holders

Wottle tied the world record in the US Olympic trials that year. You can look it up! http://w1.161.telia.com/~u16106302/800m/statistics/worldrecordprogression.html Bill At 12:06 PM 8/31/2001 -0700, Richard McCann wrote: >Yes, I forgot the obvious, although Wottle was only a gold medalist, not

RE: t-and-f: believe it or not

At 09:09 PM 8/30/2001 -0400, malmo wrote: >Distance runners time investment versus that of sprinters? Distance >running, of all events in track, requires the LEAST amount of time >investment. Few sports besides running, if any, can one become one of >the best in the world on just two hours a day.

Re: t-and-f: young distance WR holders

Yes, I forgot the obvious, although Wottle was only a gold medalist, not WR holder. Also, add Lindgren (27:11 6 mi, superior to 10k, in 1965). RMc At 06:00 AM 8/31/2001 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:47:06 -0400 >From: William Bahnfleth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: R

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

GH, Have you ever played any other sports? Do you know how much dedication and HARD WORK goes into being a good soccer player or tennis player? I remember running lines in tennis for an hour once and I puked. I remember soccer coaches making us do windsprints for 30 minutes, have a 2 hour p

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Michael wrote: >Alan, I yet to see why this is bad. They may have 1000s that burn out or >get injured, but they have the best top end runners also... as well as being >the deepest country in the world. Give me 1000 quality runners and I would >rather have 10 guys who can compete with anyone

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

In a message dated Fri, 31 Aug 2001 8:04:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Michael Contopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is not one solid reason why getting your son out there running at an early >age is any worse than having him play any other sport at an early age. > The key word th

Re: RE: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated

In a message dated Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:56:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Edward Koch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The more interesting question this thread raises to me is not how to > characterize Pre but what he would have done if he had lived. > > 7. What would be his role today - coa

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Never said it was bad. The reason why Kenya is so dominant is BECAUSE they have thousands burn out. I'm all for young kids running hard at a young age, but only if they want to. I know many young kids who join local running clubs in their youth. If in order to have 10 medal-caliber runners we m

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Alan, I yet to see why this is bad. They may have 1000s that burn out or get injured, but they have the best top end runners also... as well as being the deepest country in the world. Give me 1000 quality runners and I would rather have 10 guys who can compete with anyone in the world and 999

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

I can think of many young kids who run "competitively" in road races during elementary and middle school age. Problem with most is that they lose interest, they "burnout" so to speak. Alan http://www.geocities.com/runningart2004 >From: "Michael Contopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Mic

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

>Because the injury rates are higher and the risk of never being able to >compete later is higher and because the succsess rate is so low. To be >clear for every one kid that is good at 15 there are thousands who lie >in >a waste land of burnout and injury. That is precisely the reason why Keny

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

The amount of visitors any of those sites have is miniscule compared the the population of kids in HS and college athletics. It's a problem as far as the sports popularity is concerned and probably is a factor in why distance running has not improved in the US in 15 years. Steve S

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

When I was in HS elite distance running was much more popular to the general public than it is now. It was in the era of Pre, Shorter et al and there was only one kid on my team who knew much about the sport other than what was recently witnessed at the Olympics and that kid was me. In colleg

Re: t-and-f: How about a mile steeplechase?

Buck Jones wrote: > > The 2k Steeple seems fairly common (as common as a 1000?) > I've been looking at results from permit meetings in Italy, and Langat's > 5:18's would put him at the mile in about 4:15. I don't see a sub-four > mile-steeple happening any time soon. However, keep in mind that a

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

If that is the case, I reiterate, we are doing a terrible job educating our youth then! IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT OUR ATHLETES KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE WORLD IS DOING! If they do not, they continue believing the times run by the class before them were good when they are in fact becoming more and m

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Michael Contopoulos wrote: > I can only go by personal experience. I can honestly say that by the time I > was a junior in high school, I knew all the world records, junior world > records, etc. With the presence of the internet, I would bet that the best > kids on most team

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Michael Contopoulos wrote: > > >Yes, I would think twice about sending my children out. There are a lot of > >things that we can do here to improve athletics but special training at age > >6 is not one of them > > > I ask you why? Once again, age group swimming is widely popular. You see > ten

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

I can only go by personal experience. I can honestly say that by the time I was a junior in high school, I knew all the world records, junior world records, etc. With the presence of the internet, I would bet that the best kids on most teams know what is going on internationally. Maybe not t

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Say what? I still go out and shag flies occasionally for enjoyment. As a matter of fact this is how I discovered as a kid that I liked to run. I hoped whoever was hitting would hit the ball as far away from me as possible so I could run it down. Cross marketing I guess. Steve S.

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Who's getting psyched out? Certainly not our juniors who for the most part unaware of what Kenyan athletes are doing. Pick a random HS cross team and ask them what the WJR's are and you'll probably have one or two kids who are really interested in the sport give you some sort of answer. The re

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

As a kid in the sixties, starting at about age 7 or so, I was always involved in some sport or physical activity, but most of the time with little adult imposed structure, including tennis, hockey, football, baseball, bicycling, and running. When my friends and I were a little older, we used to

Re: t-and-f: Article on Bob Hayes

For those interested, here is an article on Bob Hayes written by former list member Justin Clouder: http://run-down.com/guests/jc_bobhayes.php The article has appeared on the list before, and a variation of it is planned to be used in a dedication to Hayes sometime in September. Dan --- Randal

t-and-f: Fwd: New Press Release from IOC / Nouveau communique de Presse duCIO

Courtesy International Olympic Committee. Paul Merca >OLYMPIC NEWS ALERT > >There is a new press release on the IOC web site, entitled: >"IOC publiSHeS THE NEW list OF PROHIBITED substances AND METHODS " >Please go to http://www.olympic.org/ioc/e/news/press_releases_e.html >to view it. >If you

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

I do have kids, girls, 10 and 12. Last week we ran a x-c relay together 4x2.5 miles with Cynthia. We did the same thing last year. They took it seriously, especially the sprinting to the hand off at the end. A nice family thing and matching t-shirts. I did expect them to run faster than last year

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

> I ask you why? Once again, age group swimming is widely popular. You see > tennis players begin and even go on the tour at age 14 or 15 (Sampras beat > Lendl in the US Open at 19... Capriatti had to be 15 when she was first > became a stud, etc). No one thinks twice about sending their ki

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Ed... what I see with my own two eyes is sometimes burn out, sometimes great success. I feel as though we have to stop trying and make the masses happy. We are not here to coddle people into liking our sport. IT WILL NEVER BE ONE OF THE TOP RESPECTED SPORTS IN THIS COUNTRY. Its OK to burn

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

No, I don't have kids. And when I do, I'm not going to make him go out and run 60 miles a week at 10 years old. What I will do, however, is invite him out for runs with his old man. Maybe invite he and his friends along too... then they can do it together if they like it. I will let my son (

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

> I ask you why? Once again, age group swimming is widely popular. You see > tennis players begin and even go on the tour at age 14 or 15 (Sampras beat > Lendl in the US Open at 19... Capriatti had to be 15 when she was first > became a stud, etc). No one thinks twice about sending their kid ou

Re: t-and-f: How about a mile steeplechase?

The 2k Steeple seems fairly common (as common as a 1000?) I've been looking at results from permit meetings in Italy, and Langat's 5:18's would put him at the mile in about 4:15. I don't see a sub-four mile-steeple happening any time soon. Padua 8/26: 1 LANGAT John KEN 5:18.61 2 KIBIW

t-and-f: USATF Release: Bell wins WUGs gold in triple jump

Contact:Jill M. Geer USATF Director of Communications http://www.usatf.org 317-261-0500 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, August 31, 2001 Bell brings home gold in men's triple jump BEIJING - Triple jumper Kenta Bell did two things he had never done before Friday at the

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Michael Contopoulos writes: > I ask you why? Because the injury rates are higher and the risk of never being able to compete later is higher and because the succsess rate is so low. To be clear for every one kid that is good at 15 there are thousands who lie in a waste land of burnout and inju

Re: t-and-f: Article on Bob Hayes

on 30/8/01 22:32, Wayne T. Armbrust at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There is an article about Bob Hayes in USA Today. When Bob Hayes came to London a few years ago to publicise a TV show called "The Fastest Men on Earth" I asked him if he would have stayed in track and field had the rewards been th

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

I ask you why? Once again, age group swimming is widely popular. You see tennis players begin and even go on the tour at age 14 or 15 (Sampras beat Lendl in the US Open at 19... Capriatti had to be 15 when she was first became a stud, etc). No one thinks twice about sending their kid out to

Re: t-and-f: What do Tiger Woods,

Netters Michael Contopoulos writes: > American's start running too late. We need to get our kids out there and > running at 6 years old. You wouldn't think twice shoving your kid off to > soccer practice, giving him tennis lessons, or signing him up for little > league... Yes, I would thi