Re: t-and-f: re: USATF XC Nats Scoring

2002-03-16 Thread Michael Contopoulos
The fact that you think its a ridiculous scenario is why they can get away with it, why Regina can get away with it, etc. Mike >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: t-and-f: re: USATF XC Nats Scoring >Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 20:29:11 EST >

Re: t-and-f: re: USATF XC Nats Scoring

2002-03-16 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sat, 16 Mar 2002 1:50:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Michael Contopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You are all missing my point. The fact that Nike cheated is what I am really >concerned with. All I'm saying is that I have lost a lot of respect for them. >What's ne

Re: t-and-f: Nike, Cross Nationals, USATF

2002-03-16 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sat, 16 Mar 2002 1:44:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jack Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know about Hy-Tek, but with Apple Raceberry JaM the simplest solution would >be to assign undeclared runners bib numbers in a sequence different from those >eligible to score

Re: t-and-f: Nike, Cross Nationals, USATF

2002-03-16 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Jack Moran wrote: > I don't know about Hy-Tek, but with Apple Raceberry JaM the simplest > solution would be to assign undeclared runners bib numbers in a sequence > different from those eligible to score and the team scoring would be > confined to those eligible. There is also an option to elimi

t-and-f: USATF CC

2002-03-16 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: I still don't know for sure exactly what happened in the team scoring at the USATF meet, but I surmise this scenario: Nike had more than the allotted number of scoring places running and benefitted in some way from this, possibly due to failing in the Hy-Tech scoring syst

Re: t-and-f: re: USATF XC Nats Scoring

2002-03-16 Thread Dave Cameron
Agreed, Michael. HyTek is not to blame; USATF is not to blame; etc. etc. The point is - Nike willingly accepted an award that wasn't theirs, depriving others of that award. Our sport "used to be" one of the ones with the most integrity - no under the table fixing of events, Olympic speed ska

Re: t-and-f: AP STORY: Tulane drops men's track programs

2002-03-16 Thread Edward Koch
Actually, as strange as it seems, this case is probably not largely about money (at least directly) because of the way Title IX has been interpreted in recent years. The federal government bases its percentage test on participants, not dollars or scholarships. Now, folks can argue whether any

Re: t-and-f: re: USATF XC Nats Scoring

2002-03-16 Thread Michael Contopoulos
You are all missing my point. The fact that Nike cheated is what I am really concerned with. All I'm saying is that I have lost a lot of respect for them. What's next... doping of their athletes? They stole an award that wasn't theirs; who is to say what they will do for "Victory?" Lie, c

Re: t-and-f: re: USATF XC Nats Scoring

2002-03-16 Thread John Sun
>Then I am sure that this past week you have already >marched down >to your association USATF office and signed up to be >a volunteer >official, because you can do better than those scarce >few at >nationals have been able to do. >What, you say 'not my job!' ? >Well then stop yer whinin'. Put u

Re: t-and-f: Nike, Cross Nationals, USATF

2002-03-16 Thread Jack Moran
I don't know about Hy-Tek, but with Apple Raceberry JaM the simplest solution would be to assign undeclared runners bib numbers in a sequence different from those eligible to score and the team scoring would be confined to those eligible. There is also an option to eliminate selected teams from th

Re: t-and-f: re: USATF XC Nats Scoring

2002-03-16 Thread Mike Prizy
Reality check - yes, volunteer. Search the national web site or go right to a USATF state association and look for the USATF Junior Olympics schedule. Probably the next up big meets will be the state track meets in June followed by the regional meets. In Illinois, you don't have to volunteer fo

Re: t-and-f: AP STORY: Tulane drops men's track programs

2002-03-16 Thread Mike Prizy
As you also stated in your post, I was speaking in general terms and not specific to Tulane's situation. However, I do believe the Big Team Sport mentality is at the bottom of a vast majority of these cuts. Based on the information from your post, I find it amazing that only 15 male students a

Re: t-and-f: re: USATF XC Nats Scoring

2002-03-16 Thread koala
>For >God's sake high school meets are scored better and high school athletes are >more honest. Shame on both USATF and Nike. They both suck in my opinion. > >Mike Then I am sure that this past week you have already marched down to your association USATF office and signed up to be a volunteer

Re: t-and-f: AP STORY: Tulane drops men's track programs

2002-03-16 Thread John Rhodes
Looking at the roster on Tulane's web page shows only 15 athletes, most of them are middle distance or distance runners so I doubt the football coach was wanting many of them out for spring ball. The fact that only 2 athletes were from Louisiana and 8 were international kids probably hurt the prog

t-and-f: Test-please delete

2002-03-16 Thread Martin J. Dixon