t-and-f: Resend USATF News Notes: February 17, 2003

2003-02-18 Thread USATF Communications
The following is a resend of Monday's News Notes. Due to technical difficulties, not all parties received the original e-mail. Contact:Melvin Jackson II Communications Coordinator USA Track Field (317) 261-0500 x322

t-and-f: Simplot

2003-02-18 Thread John Lunn
Thanks to the Simplot Corporation for sponsoring this fantastic track meet. I've been to thousands of track meets and have never been to a better meet than the one put on by Simplot. I would encourage every high school athlete to compete there, every track fan to enjoy, and every meet director to

t-and-f: Re: Kendra Wecker update

2003-02-18 Thread Lee Nichols
I stand corrected. I realize I was looking at the 2000 NCAA results, not 2002. Lee Lee, you best look again. Kendra Wecker from Kansas State got 6th in the NCAA last year with a throw of 168' 4, the same distance she threw to win our HS league meet the year before. I'm pretty sure she is

t-and-f: WPV--High School Record?

2003-02-18 Thread Roger Ruth
Thanks to Ken Stone for bringing to my attention the very impressive vaulting of 17-year-old Kira Costa, Fresno/San Joaquin, in winning the high school division of the women's vault at the Los Angeles Invitation on 15 February. Kira's 4.08m (13'4 1/2) places her 59th, and 15th-ranked American, on

Re: t-and-f: WPV--High School Record?

2003-02-18 Thread Mike Prizy
Here is what is listed at the Illinois High School Association site: http://www.ihsa.org/activity/trg/records/eventrec.htm pole vault National — 13-8, Shayla Balentine, Morro Bay, CA, 2001 IHSA — 12-6, Elizabeth Boyle, Winnetka (New Trier), 2001 (finals) Class A — 9-6, Jackie Marquardt,

[Fwd: Re: t-and-f: WPV--High School Record?]

2003-02-18 Thread Mike Prizy
Sorry, at second look, this 13-8 is an outdoor mark. Original Message Subject: Re: t-and-f: WPV--High School Record? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:53:21 -0600 From: Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: @attbi.com To: Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC:

Re: t-and-f: Futility, absurdity

2003-02-18 Thread Jim Gerweck
Ed's subject line brings up another topic, possibly the dumbest rule the HS Federation has ever come up with (aside from 1600/3200 and the short-lived method of determining vertical jump winners by attempts rather than misses), certainly the most unevenly interpreted and applied. I refer to the

Fwd: Re: t-and-f: Futility, absurdity, jewelry

2003-02-18 Thread Steve Vaitones
Jim wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:29:22 -0500 From: Jim Gerweck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Futility, absurdity CUT But the worst is the timing of the penalty for wearing jewelry, disqualification from the event. More often than I'd care to note, including this past weekend's

t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: USA Indoor TF Championships Media Accreditation

2003-02-18 Thread USATF Communications
MEMO: February 18, 2003 TO: U.S. Athletics Media FROM: Tom Surber (317) 261-0500 x317 Media Information Manager USA Track Field SUBJECT 2003 USA Indoor Championships Media Accreditation MEDIA ADVISORY USA Indoor TF Championships Credentialing

Re: t-and-f: IOC, EU Discuss Live Internet Coverage

2003-02-18 Thread Lee Nichols
I say it doesn't have a chance. Hell, right now the Olys are about the best thing NBC has going on, sports-wise. The closest thing they have to a major sport contract is the Arena Football League. They'll put a gun to the IOC's head and say, Now just put down that mouse and back slowly away

Re: t-and-f: IOC, EU Discuss Live Internet Coverage

2003-02-18 Thread Martin J. Dixon
I just saw in SI that there will be 806 hours of coverage of the Olympics by NBC and all related networks. Given that I am pretty sure that that is more hours than the Olympics lasts, start to finish-nights included, you would think that there would be a a bit of track coverage. Here's hoping

RE: t-and-f: Futility, absurdity

2003-02-18 Thread malmo
3200? Is that a track event? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lee Nichols Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Futility, absurdity To wit, earrings, chains, bracelets are all

Re: Re: t-and-f: IOC, EU Discuss Live Internet Coverage

2003-02-18 Thread Randy Treadway
The only people who'd watch it on the 'net in this country are the hard-core individual sport geeks- like us tf nuts. An tiny audience which NBC says it doesn't target anyway. It's after the housewives and soap opera freeks who drive advertising ratings. (the same people who watch ice skating).

t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

2003-02-18 Thread Chas. L. Shaffer
Dear Listers, Seeing Seneca Lassiter on TV at the Tyson Indoor triggered something in my memory. Didn't USATF announce last year that they were going to investigate the circumstances involving his rabbiting at the World Cup? I don't recall seeing any final announcement on that. Perhaps my

t-and-f: Fwd: Transcontinental Run Next Monday!

2003-02-18 Thread James Osborn
A former roommate of mine and friend will be embarking on crazy mishaps and wacky adventures starting this coming monday as they run across the United States. Please check out the website www.runtheusa.com and any support would be great Thanks James Osborn ---BeginMessage--- Hello to

Re: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

2003-02-18 Thread ghill
gee, maybe we should just quit publishing. From January TFN: Lassiter Discipline Case In The Works Given the weeks (months) of silence after the World Cup relative to miler Seneca Lassiter¹s having upset American fans and officials with his ³pacing job² for Bernard Lagat in Madrid, there were

Re: t-and-f: Women's 4 x 1500 Meter Relay Records

2003-02-18 Thread tom plumb
I wonder if four of Kenya's best 1500m runners' times over a similar span of time ('97-00) would not have left the esteemed UK group gasping for air. Ngeny, 3:28.12; Lagat, 3:28.51; Komen, 3.29.46; Rotich 3.29.91. Tom Plumb Sacramento Jim Gerweck, Runnng Times, wrote: What I would have loved

Re: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

2003-02-18 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 2/18/2003 5:38:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, Chas. L. Shaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Listers, Seeing Seneca Lassiter on TV at the Tyson Indoor triggered something in my memory.  Didn't USATF announce last year that they were going to investigate the circumstances

Re: t-and-f: WPV--High School Record?

2003-02-18 Thread John Dye
Costa set an indoor high school girls record of 13-4.5, beating Samantha Shepard's 2002 record by one quarter inch. The outdoor record is 13-8 by Shayla Ballentine at the California state meet in 2001. John Dye [EMAIL PROTECTED] DyeStat - the internet home of high school track www.dyestat.com

RE: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

2003-02-18 Thread malmo
Maybe it's time for the USATF to open up? No one has ever had faith in secret tribunals. Why does our federation persist with the notion that it's a good idea? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ghill Not so. A grievance has been

RE: t-and-f: Futility, absurdity

2003-02-18 Thread malmo
Rueful it is! 3200. Yeeech! Brought to you by those who are educating your children. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lee Nichols Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Futility,

t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: Gail Devers to appear on teleconference

2003-02-18 Thread USATF Communications
MEMO: February 18, 2003 TO: U.S. Athletics Media FROM: Jill M. Geer USATF Director of Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] 317-261-0500 x360 http://www.usatf.org SUBJECT:Media Teleconference Gail

Re: t-and-f: Women's 4 x 1500 Meter Relay Records

2003-02-18 Thread ghill
The reason nobody goes for the World Record is because there isn't one. Not enough competition in the event for the IAAF to justify giving it WR status. That race in London is the only women's 4x15 outside of the U.S. Relay circuit I can ever recall being run. Wisconsin's averaging about 4:21 is

Re: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

2003-02-18 Thread ghill
Note that it just says kept secret going in. I'm not really hip to the inner workings of USATF proceedings (nor do I want to be!), but as it was explained to me, the idea is to prevent the accused from lobbying their panel in advance. Given the incestuous nature of the sport, that may not be a

Re: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

2003-02-18 Thread koala
One of the possible 'penalties' is suspension for some period of time from U.S. teams- which could run the gamut from Pan Am Games through World Cup, World Champs, and even Olympic Games, depending on how long the penalty is. Such a penalty would not prevent him from 'earning a living' in

RE: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

2003-02-18 Thread USATF Communications
Malmo: It's by no means a secret tribunal. The people from whom the NABR are chosen all are listed, together, in the USATF directory. (Several are chosen from the NABR pool for each grievance that requires an NABR.) We have openly discussed the process many times in the months since Madrid.

Re: t-and-f: WPV--High School Record?

2003-02-18 Thread Roger Ruth
In addition to Mike Prizy's note on this question, posted to t-and-f, I received this further information, off-list, from Jack Shepard. I appreciate his permission to forward it to the list: After Kira cleared the record 13-4 1/2 on her third attempt, she had the bar raised to 13-6 1/2 and took

t-and-f: speaking of stupid posts

2003-02-18 Thread ghill
pay no attention to that moron who just posted under my name about the 30K record. The 1:21:34 for Radcliffe was at 25K, not 30K. Doh! gh

t-and-f: speaking of cheap WRs

2003-02-18 Thread ghill
Note Matsumiya's 1:28:36 WR for road 30K this past weekend. In her marathon WR, Radcliffe went through 30K in 1:21:34.

Re: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

2003-02-18 Thread ghill
USATF release post-Madrid said the punishment could include, a written reprimand, discontinuation of financial benefits from USATF and the USOC, and other more severe penalties. I can't say it with 100% certainty, but I have been told that USATF has the power to suspend from all kinds of

Re: t-and-f: speaking of cheap WRs

2003-02-18 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Peter Maher had the world record at 25km at one point in over 1:15 and all kinds of people had split faster than that before and have since. Regards, martin ghill wrote: Note Matsumiya's 1:28:36 WR for road 30K this past weekend. In her marathon WR, Radcliffe went through 30K in 1:21:34. --

Re: t-and-f: Futility, absurdity

2003-02-18 Thread Robert Hersh
Message text written by Lee Nichols I once was flagged by an official seconds before the 3200 start for wearing a running watch, What were you supposed to wear--a watch that wasn't running? :-)

Re: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

2003-02-18 Thread Robert Hersh
Message text written by ghill USATF release post-Madrid said the punishment could include, a written reprimand, discontinuation of financial benefits from USATF and the USOC, and other more severe penalties. I can't say it with 100% certainty, but I have been told that USATF has the power to

Re: t-and-f: speaking of cheap WRs

2003-02-18 Thread Bob Duncan
G. Hill (the apostle Paul of T F?) wrote: Note Matsumiya's 1:28:36 WR for road 30K this past weekend. In her marathon WR, Radcliffe went through 30K in 1:21:34. A most under appreciated athlete... I hope she's getting her fair share of UK dollars, because the US doesn't acknowledge her