Re: t-and-f: National Depth--Hurdles

Roger Ruth wrote: Topping the men's list is Felix Sánchez of the Dominican Republic. He also is the only athlete from DOM in the top 100, with only one other from that country on the list of 560, ranked at #208. What makes for this kind of circumstance, where obviously there is not a strong

Re: t-and-f: Track Meets in San Francisco Area

Los Gatos, Berkeley, Diablo Valley College all have all comers now, all are within 50 miles of SF. Scroll to the bottom of this link for the current info: http://www.pausatf.org/data/2002/TFMeets2002.html Only indoor meets are in Reno (3+ hour drive) starting 2/1:

Re: t-and-f: USATF Release: Mascot name game continues

It just seems to me the natural mascot could have been Mercury. A mascot that denotes speed seems to be what the sport is about. I'm sure kids would have loved a muscular fella with wings on his head, the Warriors have a similar fella for their mascot. Joe ghill wrote: From: Jones,

t-and-f: Marshall Clark

List, Just got word that Marshall Clark passed away after having a heart attack. Anyone have details? Appreciate any help people can offer. Joe

Re: t-and-f: Peak age... Americans have it wrong?

Folks, To add my $.02 to the fray, I always think back to what Vigil told me when I asked him this question. He said it takes someone roughly 10 years of consistent work to get to the top of their game. African's start earlier than we do. If they start training at 12, then their best years

t-and-f: Wanamaker?

Folks, I was watching the PGA this past weekend and the winner of the tournament is awarded the Wanamaker trouphy. Same organization/person as the indoor mile? If so, can someone let me know or point me to a link where I can read up on the background of the award. Thanks! Joe

Re: t-and-f: Free Distance clinic at USATF's

Wayne T. Armbrust wrote: While the clinic is starting the most successful U.S. male endurance athlete in International Competition for the past fifteen years or so in any event beyond 800 meters will be finishing his race. Lance Armstrong is competing in the meet? Joe Joe Rubio wrote

t-and-f: Free Distance clinic at USATF's

Folks, I'm hosting the 3rd annual Venue Sports distance clinic on Sunday 6/23 at Ricky's Hyatt in Palo Alto 9:00-11:00 am. This is the final day of USATF's at Stanford before the bulk of the running events get under way. It's free to anyone who wants to attend, we have seating for the first

Re: t-and-f: Regional Qualifying (long)

Kebba Tolbert wrote: ...Regionals won't draw more fans, it'll just further dilute the sport. And it makes kids think they're truly national class when they're nowhere close. OK, I've got to pipe in on this one. I disagree with this statement. The point is, what's wrong with making someone

t-and-f: Sight lines at Stanford

List, Remember at the Trials when there was this big uproar about sitting or standing in the stands? Basically the argument revolved around the fact that if someone stands in front or you, you can't see unless you stand as well. Now the fine grounds people at Stanford seem to have figured it

Re: t-and-f: 4:10 8th grader

John Dye wrote: Jack Shepard's HIGH SCHOOL TRACK 2002 lists 4:04.1 as the 14 year old boys record (Toby Cook, Gladstone OR 1980). The same Toby Cook from this list? The same Toby Cook who is the son of Wes Cook at George Fox University? The same Toby Cook who was part of the Taft College team

t-and-f: USATF Tix?

List, Any idea when tickets go on sale for USATF champs at Stanford? Any help is appreciated. Joe

Re: t-and-f: What about pole vault spotters?

How about a helmet? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Y ask: At the risk of confirming my stupidity and opening a fresh scab, I need to ask: Could better spotting have prevented Dare's death? What is the role of the pole-catcher at meets? I'm aware that pole vault officials aren't allowed

Re: t-and-f: Pole Vault Summit

I've spoken in great length to coach Fraley about the concept of each event discipline within track and field taking responsibility for their own development, promotion and events. Who better to know what's good for say the vault then vaulters and their coaches? He's showing what can be done

t-and-f: Rethinking hard-easy

List, I found this article while surfing around waiting for my embroidery to get done so I can head down to Mt Sac for the AAF clinic on Saturday. It's written by Coach Farrell of Thousand Oaks HS. My brother in law ran for coach Farrell and has a tremendous amount of respect for him. He's

Re: t-and-f: 1500: ain't we got fun?

Maybe something to consider for the future is the following. Now this isn't my idea, it was brought up by Jamey Harris and Louie Qunitana at the Calif. Community College XC state meet back in November. I feel it has merrit. They felt that having the USATF outdoor standard set at roughly the

t-and-f: You're kidding me right?

List, So it's not that busy and I've decided to put a little more concentrated thought into a few athlete's training schedules for the Spring. To help facilitate the planning I needed to know the answer to a seemingly simple question, specifically when is the qualifying period for the 2002

Re: t-and-f: dude with jump/run range

Another guy with range, Ivan Huff. 8:16 steeple and is the current world record holder for 15/16 age group in cow pie tossing. Seriously he is... Joe Rubio wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can beat that one. Bobby Ingram of Arizona was 7th in the ?84 NCAA steeple at 8:35.43. And Jon

Re: t-and-f: dude with jump/run range

that had Ansberry, Giusto and a few others of note. He now lives in Fredrick Maryland and works for UPS there as a manager. Joe Rubio Ingram teammate, West Valley College '1981-'82. In a message dated Tue, 11 Dec 2001 9:52:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, Buck Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How

t-and-f: Centers for Excellence T/F Clinic

This Friday and Saturday (12/14-15), coach Bob Fraley is hosting the first annual Centers for Excellence Track and Field Clinic at Fresno State University. Check out the link for the clinic here: http://66.113.200.174/Track_Clinic_2001.htm Additional info can be acquired by phoning coach

t-and-f: USATF Outdoor qualifying timeframe

List, Can anyone tell me what the qualifying window is for the coming outdoor season for USATF's in June? Specifically wanted to know if May '01 mark's from last season will apply to this year's Nationals at Stanford. Also, anyone have the indoor qualifying standards for the 1500/mile.

Re: t-and-f: Best all-time milers by state ?

Mike, Cummings went to Ernest Righetti HS in Santa Maria, CA. He was teammates of Louie Quintana Senior who's son graced the cover of TF News a few year back. You would have thought they would easily win their league with that 1-2 punch, but they had to go against the legendary team from

Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers

Edward Koch wrote: Youth soccer is fine when it serves as one of many sports a youngster learns. Unfortunately, many soccer organizers take the view that youth soccer is a 24/7 sport twelve months a year. When that happens, our sport does lose some potential stars. I'd agree with that. An

t-and-f: 2001 Black Fab grant Recipients

, Village Christian Fred Largentboth, West Torrence High School Kent Wyatt girls, Yucca Valley High Jay Stepp both Please let me know if you have any additoonal questions or comments. Have a great weekend. Joe Rubio

Re: t-and-f: XC Long-Short Debate

So how about we put the Stanford men in the 4k and the Colorado guys in the 12k? While we're at it, let's decide the national champions for any discipline via a postal system. No need to have host USATF track nationals just run some time trials, have Mike Scott post the results and we can see

Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

Hey, you know I have a lot of useless data in my computer and in my head, stuff like the S African marathon program and the Fila program and the logs from Shorter, and Clayton and stuff like that. What I don't have is hard factual data on what the guys/gals from the rising sun do. Sure I've

Re: t-and-f: Marathon raining (was: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!)

Ed, I think it's called event specific training. My personal theory; if you want to race hard for 26 miles, or any distance for that matter you better try to replicate as much of it in practice as you can. How's this for an idea for a possible way to train for the marathon. Comparison Week

Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

So what the heck are we gonna do about this? Lots of complaining, not a lot of people taking the lead and showing the way...Heck I don't know what to do, so I'm part of the problem. I mean I was not very good and neither was my old roommate, but we ran 2:18 and 2:19. I based the not very good

t-and-f: [Fwd: [aggies] BlackFab grants]

additional information and best of luck with the rest of the season. Joe Rubio

Re: t-and-f: Viren-blood-doping

Along a similar vein... Didn't Marti Vaino admit blood doping by default in '84? My memory is a bit shaky here, but I seem to recall that after Vaino had been tested positive for a banned substance through a blood test following his silver medal 10k run in LA, he said something to the effect I

Re: t-and-f: power/olympic lifting by throwers?

Paul, I know the top female prep shot putter from this past season, Karen Freeberg is big time into powerlifting. My thinking is she's the best prep female at both the shot and powerlifting currently. Not sure of the details, just know enough knowledge to be dangerous from the local paper and

Re: t-and-f: Question about stress fracture

Brian, Mt wife's a PT. She tells me that using an ultra sound machine over the suspected stress fracture area (obviously when it's turned on) will vibrate the area enough to make it pretty uncomfortable if it's in fact a stress fracture. Much less expensive and easier to come by than a bone

Re: t-and-f: Gabe's and Lassiters form?

List, Man, I got into something here with this form discussion. Might as well dive deeper into it... Wayne T. Armbrust wrote about good form: I base that on the ability to make contact under the center of gravity with the foot moving backwards wrt the cm at the came speed the runner's cm is

Re: t-and-f: mile improvement since high school

Kipp Ortenburger. 4:32 HS. 3:39.77, 4:00.21 (CanAm '99) Christian Hesch: No HS time, didn't run. 3:40.73 ('01 Cardinal Qualifier) Joe Fabris: 4:37 HS. 3:58.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Karl Paranya (Haverford sub 4, HS 4:20-ish) Jim Gerweck Running Times

t-and-f: Free Clinic at USATF's/Eugene

Boaz, Irv Ray, Dr Joe Vigil, Lance Harter. Please contact me individually if you'd like additional information. Joe Rubio

t-and-f: USATF results history

List, Looking for a link or to see if anyone has info on the complete results for all distance races from 1990 to the present at USATF outdoor track nationals and the Oly Trials. Heat results for these years are greatly appreciated as well. As always, thanks for the help. See ya in Eugene!

Re: t-and-f: Webb at Pre

Randy, Another issue is the number of qualifiers. Right now I'm counting 9 guys with auto times, add Griffin and MacFalls in there on appeal and you have 11. Not sure how far back the window opens (help here Sideshow?), but it could be a final only if say 14 guys make it there. That would

Re: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb's coach.

Marty, Just because you ran fast doesn't mean you can coach. Heck, I have no idea if guys like Vigil or Larsen or Warhurst or Newton ran a competitive step in their lives. All I know is that they can coach better than most. My $.02 is that being a student of the sport and a good motivator are

t-and-f: Fila Results?

List, I'm searching for the results of the Fila Twilight Classic run last Saturday (5/19) at USC without luck. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance for the help. Joe

t-and-f: HS all times list question

List, I'm eating lunch and reading The Source by Track and Field News where they list the HS men's and women's records. Within the section on The records as TFN sees them, they state that the HS season runs through 8/31. So here's my question. Say Ryan Hall runs 3:59.9 for the mile this

t-and-f: AR 10k photos/video tape

List, For those interested, former Kinney (now Footlocker) national champion Charles Alexander has quite a number of photos posted on the Reebok Aggie website from the AR 10k last Friday night. Check it out here: http://reality.sgi.com/csp/aggies/ Jeff Shaver owns a video copy of the entire

t-and-f: Salazar Eugene 10k ?

Mcewen, Brian T wrote: 3) If El Salazar can run 27:30 in a downpour, with no rabbits, and the outcome in doubt right up until the end, in EARLY-April NO LESS ... Question here. Is my mind screwed up again or wasn't that 27:30 10k Salazar ran in Eugene 10 days before the Boston Marathon

Re: t-and-f: Let's do regionals...

Buck, Very nice idea, just what the ER doctor with TF on the operating table needed. Maybe something that can make this easier to accomplish in the short term is each discipline organizing their own qualifying meets. For instance have the LDR take the 800, 1500, steeple, 5k and 10k and try

t-and-f: More regionals stuff

for a lot of runners. This recent idea of 'cooperating' in a race to achieve a fast time is killing the sport. As you say, the fans certainlynotice what's missing. -Buck -Original Message- From: Joe Rubio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Buck Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:49 AM

t-and-f: Yet more $ for the Estes Mile

respectively. Still accepting donations of anyone is interested...you let me know what to put it towards and it will be done...Thanks! Joe Joe Rubio wrote: Our call for more donations is paying off. A nice reader from Mike Scott's list (Irene Herman) has kindly donated $200 to the cause as has

t-and-f: Estes Mile Now at $600 for the win

Another kind reader puts up cash for the Red Estes Mile. Robert Grove of Comstock Mortgage in Sacramento takes a few minutes from my home refinancing to donate $100 on the win. First now stands at $600 for Saturday's men's mile. Thanks for keeping it coming folks! Joe Joe Rubio wrote

t-and-f: Estes Mile: $500 for the win!

minute winner earns a $400 bonus Leader at 880 y (must be sub 2:01): $50 Leader at 1320 y (must be sub 3:02): $100 If you are intersted in running, please contact myself (Joe Rubio 800/676-7463) or Bob Fraley at Fresno State University (559/278-4097). We are still looking for some donations

t-and-f: Red Estes Mile

Samansky: $50 for oevrall prize purse Steve Palladino: $100 for overall winner, $100 for sub 4 winner Tom Moriarty: $100 for sub 4 winner Monica Townsend: $50 for overall purse Bill Luffee: $250 for overall purse Ernie Freer: $100 for sub 4 winner Thanks! Joe Rubio

Re: t-and-f: another thought on standing (if you can stand it)

GH, I'm a little young and skeptical to believe that all capacity crowds from the 60's and 70's sat through entire meets without standing for extended periods of time. You mean all the capacity crowds at Hayward Field would sit and behave the entire time Prefontaine ran his races there? I had

t-and-f: Badgers baby!

First volley thrown. The Wisconsin men will come away with the DI XC title next fall... Joe

Re: t-and-f: Where did the following high school milers go to college?

DiConti went to: Cal Poly SLO '80-81 Glendale CC '82-83 (With Jeff Nelson) BYU 83-84 Northridge where he graduated but did not compete. He currently is a Jr HS XC coach that feeds into his old HS, La Canada. Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain)

t-and-f: CO HS Clinic info needed

Dear List, If anyone has the date and contact information for the Colorado HS track coaches association meeting/clinic and can forward that to me, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. Joe

t-and-f: World Marathon Champs qualifying

Can anyone out there answer this for me. According to the procedures set forth by USATF, women representatives for the US world marathon team will be picked using the following criteria: "At the recent USA Track Field Convention, the Long Distance Running Committees established the qualifying

t-and-f: MITCA clinic

Can someone contact Leo here at Venue Sports with information about the MITCA track clinic on 1/5-1/6? 800/676-7463. If anyone has a contact and can forward it to me, I'd appreciate it. Thanks and Happy Holidays. Joe

Re: t-and-f: FitSense FS-1 at the Chicago marathon expo

Jeff, My wife uses a similar devise from Sportbrain (www.sportbrain.com). The thing is very convenient. She's used it for the last 2 weeks or so on everything from long runs to XC races. Small, lightweight thing that clips on her waistband. It essentially downloads her information onto her

t-and-f: Marathon info

List, Looking for a list of marathons in the US and abroad from 1/1 - Boston. Contact names, dates and websites would be great. Also, if anyone has info on female world qualifying procedures when they become available, I'd appreciate seeing those as well. Am I right in my assumption that

Re: t-and-f: LYNN NELSON in ULTRAMARATHON

7:45 pace for 31 miles is good? mike fanelli wrote: Lynn Nelson, 1988 Olympic Trials 10,00 meter champ (and Seoul Olympic finalist), an Oregon (via MN, AZ and CA) resident debuted at the 50 kilometer ultramarathon distance recently. The race director referred to her performance as

t-and-f: Looking for Rich Hanna

Sorry to bother the list, but could Rich Hanna from Sacramento contact me personally. If anyone has a way to contact Rich and could forward this info, I'd appreciate it. Thanks and have a great weekend. Joe