t-and-f: Fwd: Yahoo Track and Field News

questions. Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care. Regards, Yahoo! Customer Care Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: UW attendance error

-8892 voice 734-8820 fax I ran the sophomore high school mile in the 1974 version of that meet, thanx mostly to my connections with (pestering of?) Bill Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: JC names

When I went to Highline Community College in Des Moines, WA (not IA), we called it East Zenith University for a nearby community which was due west or EZU. Richard McCann At 08:33 PM 1/10/2003 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote.. To: Rich Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

t-and-f: Third-place finisher in NYC Marathon DQ'd for failed drug test

Third-place finisher in NYC Marathon DQ'd for failed drug test January 8, 2003 NEW YORK (AP) -- New York City Marathon third-place finisher Olivera Jevtic of Yugoslavia was disqualified and stripped of her prize money Wednesday after a positive drug test. Jevtic's national track and field

t-and-f: Re: St Johns and Title IX

that it is now being interpreted inappropriately. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

was out of the lineup, and even though he had a great Series, he didn't come through at the one defining moment when the Series was on the line. Not SOY material (which BTW is different than AOY, which is why adversity counts...) Richard McCann

t-and-f: Fwd: Reuters - Athletics-Jones, Montgomery seen at track centre with Francis

Athletics-Jones, Montgomery seen at track centre with Francis TORONTO (Reuters) - Triple Olympic champion Marion Jones and 100 metres world record holder Tim Montgomery have been seen at the York University Track and Field Centre with Ben Johnson's former coach Charlie Francis. A Reuters

t-and-f: YEARENDER-Athletics-Radcliffe made 2002 her year

YEARENDER-Athletics-Radcliffe made 2002 her year By John Mehaffey LONDON (Reuters) http://sports.yahoo.com/m/sa/news/reuters/20021218/reu-yearender20021218.html

t-and-f: Montgomery Sprints Into History Books

Track and Field Montgomery Sprints Into History Books By John Mehaffey LONDON (Reuters) http://sports.yahoo.com/m/sa/news/reuters/20021217/reu-yearenderhighlightdc.html

t-and-f: Sacto Bee story on USATF XC Club Nationals

No panic when other shoe drops Richie Brinker stops to put his dislodged shoe back on, then helps Hanson's retain its men's title. By John Schumacher -- Bee Staff Writer Published 2:15 a.m. PST Sunday, December 15, 2002 http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/5599771p-6576596c.html Richard

t-and-f: Fwd: Reuters Francis Refuses Comment on Reported Link with Jones

Francis Refuses Comment on Reported Link with Jones LONDON (Reuters) - Canadian sprint coach Charlie Francis has refused to comment on reports that he is now training the world's fastest couple Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery. Francis received a lifetime ban from Athletics Canada after

t-and-f: Bee story on US XC Club Nationals and the Reebok Aggies

Run-and-fun group makes big strides The Aggies hope to liven up things as hosts for the USA Fall Cross Country meet. By John Schumacher -- Bee Staff Writer Published 2:15 a.m. PST Friday, December 13, 2002 http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/5572065p-6549929c.html Richard McCann Coach

Re: t-and-f: TFN names AOYs

and early 1980s, remember? A big difference: the distance (and perhaps spacing) of the hurdles was changed. In other words it was just a variation on an old event. The pole vault is truly a brand new event for women, even more so than the 400 hurdles and triple jump. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Fukuoka marathon

at Sydney in 2000, was third in 2:10.08. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Fwd: Malmo and XC

ps--in checking for a Greg finish, I did note that Malmo was 39th as a soph, 17th as a junior, 20th as a senior. Do the results say The runner formerly known as.? ;^) Richard McCann

t-and-f: Plucknett dies

Discus record holder Ben Plucknett dies November 19, 2002 SIKESTON, Mo. (AP) -- Ben Plucknett, one of the great American discus throwers who twice held the world record in the 1980s, died at his home of a brain aneurysm. He was 48. Visitors to Plucknett's home in Essex found him soon after his

t-and-f: deaths and ..... ?

FloJo, Gallagher and Plucknett, all top competitors in the 1980s, all die from acute brain disorders of some type at relatively young ages. All have a common thread of, let's say, controversy, in the their athletic careers. Is there an additional hazard that we have yet to identify? Richard

Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies

and medical evaluation area that needs more attention when it involves a nursing mom who wants to prepare to run a marathon. Richard McCann wrote: My wife nursed our son for 2 1/2 years. She found that it took a fair amount of energy. She was also active in the local LLL activities and I

Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies

Sports Exerc 1986; 18(2)suppl:S47. Zhang, J. et al. Moderate Physical Activity and Bone Density Among Perimenopausal Women. Am J Public Health 1992; 82(5):736-38. Richard McCann wrote: A member of our club knew this woman. She had given birth 10 months ago and was still breast feeding. She

RE: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies

. (my wife knows another woman with the same problem). I think the message from this incident is that women should avoid training for such an arduous endeavor so soon after giving birth, especially if they are still nursing, which is particularly physically stressful. Richard McCann Date: Tue, 5

Re: t-and-f: Fwd: woman marathoner dies

think the message from this incident is that women should avoid training for such an arduous endeavor so soon after giving birth, especially if they are still nursing, which is particularly physically stressful. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: Meanwhile back at the hall of fame....

hour. Not on my list: the 1993 Chinese National Games WRs. If I could believe it, the women's 3k in that race would simply be the most incredible distance race ever, probably only approached by Clarke's and Geb's 10ks. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: Meanwhile back at the hall of fame (worldwide)

Coincidentally, see my previous post that includes those plus several other non-American duals. One American-only race that I would include is the men's 1984 OT 800 in which there were TWO photo finishes (one for the team) and James Robinson, many time national champ, didn't even make the

t-and-f: Top Kenyans in battle against registration

Athletics-Top Kenyans in battle against registration By Isa Amok NAIROBI (Reuters) - Top Kenyans Paul Tergat and Moses Tanui are leading a battle against their governing federation Athletics Kenya over a requirement that all the country's runners be registered. Athletics Kenya has given a

Re: t-and-f: Chicago and US runners

My point is that these runners (running 2:12 pace not 2:11 BTW), were running a conservative time oriented race without regard to the competition around them instead of running a balls to the walls risk taking race against the best in the world. Until US runners start taking those risks,

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #4103

-20 seconds slower than they should be, even excluding Chinese performances. The marks are slow when compared to performances both shorter AND longer. Richard McCann At 08:33 AM 10/14/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:11:00 -0700 From: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

Re: t-and-f: Chicago and US runners

conservative race, and way behind Culpepper. But, Culpepper's splits on the Marathon web site are 45:18/1:03:57/1:32:33 with a 4:56 finish average on his 2:09:41. Not bad for a guy who list Self as his agent and his coach. Richard McCann wrote: Culpepper ran an impressive debut, reeling in the field

Re: t-and-f: Average stride length ;^)

your short stride length seen in the PAUSATF XC races? ;^) Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: Correlations and Models and Performance

parameters that affect performance (and in fact statistical rather than physics analysis would do a much better job of capturing the interplay of effects, not that the physicists want to hear that), and we can't control for all of those many factors when comparing performances. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re:Making comparisons...

, Martin Richard McCann wrote: As another post said, we don't try to make similar comparisons between distance races where varying conditions have substantial influence. Richard McCann M.Cubed, Davis, California (530) 757-6363

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

I'm not objecting so much to comparing performances (I do the same for comparing XC races on the courses around Northern California in the USATF circuit), but rather the emphasis that is put on the comparisons as having sufficient precision to make valid judgements. I think the precision is

t-and-f: Re: measuring wind effects

by each distance runner. That difference is why applying a single adjustment factor to a multitude of sprinters is inappropriate. The adjustment factor in fact will vary with each individual. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

fans converse. RMc Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: URGENT VIRUS HOAX!!!!

CONTACTS LOCATED IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK BEFORE IT CAN CAUSE ANY DAMAGE. Richard McCann M.Cubed, Davis, California (530) 757-6363

t-and-f: Re: Hill and Smith??? ;^O

PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick Why not take Greene's speed and Khannouchi's stamina?? Or my looks and Anna Nicole Smith's brains... did I get that right? gh If we switched that statement, I think we would still have Anna Nicole Smith... ;^) Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: Viren and journalism

of issues, but they do need to also check their facts. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Interview with Lasse Viren in Sacto Bee

http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/4246803p-5268220c.html Richard McCann Coach, Golden Valley Harriers http://www.goldenvalleyharriers.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GVH/ PA USATF Club No. 38-0135 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (530) 756-0626

t-and-f: Re: over the top (was why on the street)

In about 1980, running up from the UC Berkeley campus to Tilden Park on Spruce St, Brian Maxwell ran up over the top of a car that had pulled out on the sidewalk from a driveway. The rest of us, who were behind the UCB coach, ran around the car. A couple of months later, however, after a

Re: t-and-f: women's AOY

, and she hasn't used them all yet. Richard McCann

t-and-f: marathon vs 3k

look at how steeplers fare in flat races, they tend to do better in 10ks (and cross country) than 1500s and 5ks. Richard McCann

t-and-f: time to go off list

was the one caught. Neither of these positions can be reconciled without specific information that is not publicly available to members of this listserve. Richard McCann At 08:49 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:37:35 + From: Kurt Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

Re: t-and-f: RE: Johnson on the list

an interest in seeing him go down? Charlie and his crew were as good as or better than some of the other medallists that year at their drug craft. They were just naive at how far some would go to nail him. Regards, Martin Dan Kaplan wrote: --- Richard McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johnson

t-and-f: Re: ENOUGH OF THIS .....

a supposition or accusation is made. As I've said here before, proving a negative is almost impossible, so the burden MUST be on the positive position for proof. Richard McCann M.Cubed, Davis, California (530) 757-6363

Re: t-and-f: Re: Dubin comm in US

as the upstart. If Lewis had tested positive, that would have been a major media story in the U.S. and might have lead a similar investigation. However, he did not test positive. Richard McCann

t-and-f: RE: Johnson on the list

consequences (and he may have gotten off lighter than he could have, e.g., returning his 87 WC gold too.) Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

from OK St (9.78) who's name escapes me at the moment. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: American distance running walking

I was probably being too harsh if I was inferring that walking coaches are unqualified, and yes, I agree distance runners can learn from walking coaches, as well as coaches from other disciplines. However, the issue that was raised by Wayne Armbrust (and perhaps we got off topic) was that

Re: t-and-f: What is the debate?

the analogy is not the same. I think Webb's failure to dominate collegiate competition this year indicates its premature for him to be thinking the big thoughts yet about the 1500. I would have liked to see him wait until next year when he might have run 3:31 or something, then moved out. Richard

t-and-f: Re: the walking situation is intolerable!

on the subject. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: American distance running walking

At 02:36 AM 6/18/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 21:35:41 -0500 From: Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: American distance running There are probably some one-dimensional free style swimming fans who would also rather hear from Lance Armstrong

Re: t-and-f: American distance running

advocates (see for example Running Research News or Jim Hunt, UCD). But I change my coaching and training approaches all the time. Discussion of new methods is always somewhat controversial, but I think always fruitful. So fire away. Richard McCann

RE: t-and-f: old guys

At 11:58 PM 6/17/2002 -0400, malmo wrote: Don't tell me you, I said go tell Spivey, Spence,Crogan, Holman, and Kennedy. malmo Best as I can tell, all but one of those is retired, and only one of the others is still coaching in any significant way. The rest are probably pontificating, too

Re: t-and-f: American distance running walking

From: Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: American distance running walking Richard McCann wrote: Vis a vis, the backstroke vs. freestyle analogy: Some of us believe that cycling has a closer relationship to distance running than walking does. Why would anyone think

Re: t-and-f: RR - Track field still a team sport

the local racing circuit (and locally we have several past and current world class triathletes, including Dave Scott). The fan base we need to tap into is really the non-athletes, just as with most other sports. Richard McCann Coach, Golden Valley Harriers http://www.goldenvalleyharriers.org PA

Re: t-and-f: McDonnell quote on regionals

no regionals in 1988. Why would regionals sell out nationals now if a regional system was not part of the equation for past successes? Richard McCann wrote: I saw this in the June 1 Sacramento Bee about NCAA regionals. John McDonnell of Arkansas was quoted about the creation of the regional

t-and-f: McDonnell quote on regionals

between 1988 (sold out) and 2001 (9,000). And what is HIS proposal to get fans into the stands? Richard McCann

t-and-f: RE: Webb and Warhurst

Michigan. Richard McCann

t-and-f: More 2002 London Marathon - Men's WR, women's 2nd best

7 S. SKVORTSOVA 107 02:27:07 RUS 8 Z. SEMENOVA 125 02:27:45 RUS 9 D. TULU 101 02:28:37 ETH 10 S. GEMECHU 108 02:28:58 ETH Richard McCann M.Cubed, Davis, California (530) 757-6363

t-and-f: Cal to host tribute for veteran starter

Cal to host tribute for veteran starter John Crumpacker Friday, April 12, 2002 HEALTH PERMITTING, Tom Moore will be in attendance tomorrow at the Brutus Hamilton Memorial Invitational meet at Cal's Edwards

Re: t-and-f: a Title IX thought, thoughts, answers?

not so sure there are many basketball programs that generate a profit. Last I saw, 30 of the 108 Div IA athletic programs were at least break even. I did not see a by-sport breakdown. Generally, none of the Div IAA or below programs generate more revenues than expenses. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: LSU's geography

At 01:46 PM 3/12/2002 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote.. Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:19:05 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Regional flaw In a message dated Sun, 10 Mar 2002 9:01:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Edward Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last time I looked, Arkansas is

Re: t-and-f: Regional flaw

provisions for about a third of the qualifiers, and maybe you'll convince me otherwise. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: Tacoma Dome for indoors

space to host the Final Four, and perhaps the Super Bowl. It's half an hour to Sea-Tac airport. And it's near Bill Roe's hometown. ;^) BTW, don't rule out Reno so easily. It's a short trip to Tahoe, and they have plenty of hotel rooms. Richard McCann At 04:38 AM 3/11/2002 -0800, t-and-f

t-and-f: Re: Drenth's death

. Problem is that someone missed Tom Smith (a former teammate of mine) who in fact ran 8:05 in that race, and Drenth should have been moved back a position. I always suspected that he had some problem beforehand given his poor race. Richard McCann Coach, Golden Valley Harriers http

t-and-f: Re: regionals

the existing schedule or travel budgets. The only opposition would come from meets that feel that the current system makes them important gatekeepers to NCAA qualifying, and use that gatekeeping role to bring in collegiate teams. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: regionals Oly Trials

under the current qualifying system. The issue about the Trials is whether to add competitors who have shown a consistent ability to compete well, and might have a single bad day. Richard McCann M.Cubed, Davis, California (530) 757-6363

RE: t-and-f: Sport Is Not A Right (Title IX)

allocation headaches I think you're misinterpreting the motivations of the ADs Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: SEC Champs and regional qualifying

wondering why they're funding these big expensive teams that none is interested in except in Philadelphia, Des Moines and Austin (and maybe in L.A.) We need to create excitement around the sport again, and unless you can come up with a better answer, the status quo is NOT it. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: Last word on barriers to regional qualifiers

, as they will be. We're not here to save coaches from themselves. They're adults. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: SEC Champs and regional qualifying

somewhere else runs a qualifying time in these events at Penn and Drake. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: sports as a right Title IX

by reverse discrimination suits brought by affected students This is just what the wrestling groups are doing Richard McCann

RE: t-and-f: Sport Is Not A Right (Title IX)

not proposed a solution to the actual problem of reverse discrimination without going to direct prohibitions and centralized decision making--the preferred solution of the radical egalitarians and the rigid hierarchists (best characterized by John Ashcroft) Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: SEC Champs and regional qualifying

. Richard McCann

Re: Off topic - Free Market Environmentalism (was RE: t-and-f: Sport Is Not A Right (Title IX))

worry, I didn't call him any names or threaten his children ;^) Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: SEC Champs and regional qualifying

shouldn't be there. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: SEC Champs and regional qualifying

championship using head to head competition at a specific moment, and qualifying should be based on the same principle as how we choose our champions Under the current qualifying system, we should be running time trials like the speed skaters THAT sure is exciting stuff! Richard McCann

RE: t-and-f: Sport Is Not A Right (Title IX)

athletics. That has its pluses and minuses, and those who push Title IX issues tend to come from the radical egalitarian camp that would like to see the toppling of market economies. Richard McCann M.Cubed, Davis, California (530) 757-6363

Re: t-and-f: new home for USATF?

morning) Carson is home to 3 of the largest oil refineries in the US (Arco, Texaco, Shell), and a John Manville Superfund site. Doesn't exactly sound like Surf City. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: SEC Champs and regional qualifying

intense than the previous system. Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: Title IX suit,

to be realistic about the difference in commercial appeal of football vs. any other sport. I have forwarded in a separate email an email I received a month ago from the National Wrestling Coaches Assoc executive director. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Fwd: RE: NWCA Title IX suit

If you are interested in supporting wrestling's fight over Title IX, please contact Mike Moyer at the address below: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mike Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Richard McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: NWCA Title IX suit Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:32:34 -0500 Hi

t-and-f: MSQ and flatness

we know that it doesn't affect its viscosity? =^) Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: Rethinking hard-easy

with little training benefit. I bet that coach hadn't even thought of that fact. Richard McCann M.Cubed, Davis, California (530) 757-6363

Re: t-and-f: Rethinking hard-easy

to the difference. Ron Warhurst at Michigan has successfully built the program there on a similar approach. Richard McCann

t-and-f: RE: XC circuits

with some spending change from the Final Four revenues and send it from meet to meet and perhaps share it with the Footlocker and USATF champ folks. Richard McCann At 04:52 PM 12/18/2001 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote.. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:35:30 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t

Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track?

Michael Carter - SP SMU Michael Landon - JT USC Richard McCann

Re: t-and-f: American men marathon times at 28 year low

you can dig out your old TFN annuals and answer that one. Remember that sub 2:20 was WORLD class back then. Richard McCann

t-and-f: World record progression website?

I think I saw posted earlier a website with world record progressions for all events. Can someone please send me that again? Thanx Richard McCann Coach, Golden Valley Harriers http://www.goldenvalleyharriers.org PA USATF Club No. 38-0135 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (530) 756-0626

RE: t-and-f: St. Louis - marathon trials - IAAF A standards

. Original Message: - From: Richard McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 09:41:03 -0800 To: (TFMail List) [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: St. Louis - marathon trials - IAAF A standards At 06:56 PM 12/3/2001 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote.. Date: Mon, 3 Dec

Re: t-and-f: Hosting 2004 Olympic Marathon Trials

to look for every advantage. Going somewhere where there is a 1/3 probability of horrendous conditions is not addressing the problem. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: athlete's opinion on Trials course

. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: heat and humidity at the Trials

team, much less trying to pick the best among them for the conditions in Athens. So long as we only have one to three runners under the A standard, we don't have the luxury of being finicky. I wish this was not true, because I agree with Benji in principle, but only when practical. Richard

RE: t-and-f: Hosting 2004 Olympic Marathon Trials

athlete as our sole representative. Richard McCann

t-and-f: St. Louis - marathon trials - IAAF A standards

. 60 in the morning can feel like 80 in the late afternoon during a run. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: Chinese vaulters

. In fact, this was also true for men at the beginning of the fiberglass era. Expect much more out of them in the near future. Richard McCann

Fwd: t-and-f: new 5000m world record coming next week

!!! Oh, won't this be fun. Richard McCann

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3857

rounded than in the West. More smoking too. Richard McCann

Re: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers

great, eye-foot coordination can do quite well. If soccer had been popular in the 1970s here, then your analogy would be correct. However, it was not, and so we now have competition that did not exist in the past. That's why soccer is so influential now. Richard McCann

RE: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers

pounds! Gerald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard McCann Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:35 AM To: Oleg Shpyrko Cc: TFMail List Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers At 01:06 PM 11/12/2001 -0500, Oleg Shpyrko wrote.. I am

Re: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers

. RMc Richard McCann

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