t-and-f: Witherspoon's 400m

Message text written by Kimberley Spir Perhaps I missed the indepth discussion regarding the three-turn stagger and why it appears in some rule books and is not included in others. I don't believe there has been an on-list discussion of this. What was done right, or wrong, according to

Re: t-and-f: ESPN/2 telecasts

Message text written by Kebba Tolbert we were told that Walter Davis was leading the TJ till the last round, That's just not true. He was third after the first round and fourth after rounds 2 through 5. He took the lead briefly with his last jump.

RE: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

Message text written by malmo Seneca belongs to Nike. USATFF belongs to Nike. Any more questions? There's nothing wrong with cynicism, but cynics aren't always right. In this case your suspicions are misplaced. It just doesn't work that way. Bob H

RE: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

Message text written by Chapman, Robert F These guys [NIKE] are smart enough to know that the worst thing they could do would be to attempt to influence a hearing panel such as the one that will have to deal with the Lassiter situation. Certainly corporations try to influence 'governance' all

Re: t-and-f: Futility, absurdity

Message text written by Lee Nichols I once was flagged by an official seconds before the 3200 start for wearing a running watch, What were you supposed to wear--a watch that wasn't running? :-)

Re: t-and-f: Seneca Lassiter - USATF Investigation Status

Message text written by ghill USATF release post-Madrid said the punishment could include, a written reprimand, discontinuation of financial benefits from USATF and the USOC, and other more severe penalties. I can't say it with 100% certainty, but I have been told that USATF has the power to

Re: t-and-f: can I come back now?

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't heard anything about IAAF tour status. Between this meet, the big Stanford distance show, and Portland and Eugene- what is the IAAF recognizing this year, and at what level? This information is on the IAAF website:

t-and-f: Millrose Q: blocks?

Message text written by Mike Prizy Were blocks used for the 400? No. Crouch start but no blocks.

t-and-f: David Payne runs fast 60m hurdles

Message text written by Tom Borish At the Indiana Invitational, David Payne of the Bearcat Track Club, and University of Cincinnati, ran 7.70 in the 60 meter hurdles which is the fastest time in the nation. No, it's not. Five Americans have run faster this season, with Allen Johnson and Larry

Re: t-and-f: USATF Release: Devers, Dragila break ARs at Verizon Millrose Games

Message text written by Uri Goldbourt Devers ran 7.48? you must be kidding. 7.78 probably. 7.78 is correct.

t-and-f: New WPV Records

Message text written by Roger Ruth On another topic, the Reno Summit, does anyone know for sure how many events must be contested for an official NCAA meet? I It's not a question of it being an official NCAA meet. It's whether the meet satisfies the criteria set forth in the rules. Those

Re: t-and-f: Is Dempsey Indoor track legal?

Message text written by Shawn Devereaux What about Bubka's 6.15 indoors? Is that now considered the WR, not his 6.14 outdoors? The IAAF is still listing 6.14 as the WR. But the current recognized women's World Junior Record was set indoors. I think the explanation for that apparent

Re: t-and-f: Is Dempsey Indoor track legal?

Message text written by Wayne T. Armbrust Therefore Bob, according to your interpretation of the USATF rules, an USA outdoor record could not be set in a domed stadium. Yes, as I said, if it's indoors, it can't very well be outdoors, although I suppose if the stadium had a retractable roof, it

Re: t-and-f: Is Dempsey Indoor track legal?

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BUT...the way I read it, even to submit a record set in the indoor long jump to the IAAF as a world record, you still have to attach a wind gauge reading. Don't be silly. Here's a real zinger- if somebody puts 78 feet in the shot put from an

Re: t-and-f: Is Dempsey Indoor track legal?

Message text written by Wayne T. Armbrust Bob Hersh says the same thing, but I just finished reading all of Article IV (the section about rules) of the 2003 USATF Rule Book on line and can find nothing that would prohibit an outdoor record from being set indoors. Rule 183 clearly says that

Re: t-and-f: Beamonesque reactions

Message text written by Phil Weishaar While Beamons 29' jump was well beyond anything I thought was possible, his breaking the world record was not a surprise to me after watching him jump in the preliminary rounds in the days before. Beamon had fouled on his first 2 jumps and took a safe 5 steps

t-and-f: Beamonesque reactions

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have relatively decent footage of Bob Beamon's record jump in Mexico, complete with officials bringing the traditional tape measure when they discovered that the optical device wasn't set up to handle a 29-2 1/2(8.90) jump.I still remember

t-and-f: AOY - French version

As an interesting postscript to our recent AOY thread, I thought I'd pass along the results of the 2002 Champion of Champions poll of the editorial staff of the French sports daily, L'Equipe. In spite of his Tour de France exploits, Lance Armstrong was only tied for eighth with Serena Williams.

t-and-f: World Cup scoring

Message text written by Lee Nichols Is there something I don't understand about WC scoring, or did TFN make an error? The latter. What could they have been thinking? :-)

t-and-f: FW: 2003 USATF Indoor Championships - Tickets

For ticket reservations, call 1-800-858-8184. As USATF recently announced, the meet will be held March 1-2 at the Reggie Lewis Track and Athletic Center in Boston.

t-and-f: Meanwhile back at the hall of fame....

Message text written by Jack Pfeifer What else? The Tokyo '91 long jump. Perhaps the greatest field event competition ever. And not just the WR, but the whole competition. Just amazing.

t-and-f: Meanwhile back at the hall of fame....

Let me add two memorable races to the list. The men's 400mH at the Rome World Championships the women's 100mH at the US Olympic Trials in 1984. The latter was the closest four-person finish I've ever seen. And that obviously mattered, because only the top three could make the team. In the

Re: t-and-f: Interesting story

Message text written by Mitctchell Clair I'll take a shot and say the late Brian Piccolo. Not to be confused with Doug Flutie.

Re: t-and-f: Interesting story

Message text written by ghill I'll take a shot and say the late Brian Piccolo. Not to be confused with Doug Flutie. Or Frank Viola. Or Jason Fife.

Re: t-and-f: Interesting story

Message text written by Tom Derderian There was a runner came down from Quebec called Joe Sax. Or am I being to brassy? Tom There was an American runner named Ollie Sax. Kearny (NJ) HS, and later IC4A indoor 600y champion for Penn State, as I recall. Or am I just showing my age?

Re: t-and-f: Tufts 10K / USA WOmen's 10K

Message text written by Ed and Dana Parrot My best interpretation of USATF rules and the related RRTC guidelines for using the chip is that a race is not following USATF rules if it doesn't have some sort of backup system for identifying place based on torso. Actually, Ed, that's not quite

Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)

Dan, Wayne -- Are you guys trying to get this dialogue to publishable length? Or are you just working on a cure for insomnia? :-)

t-and-f: Message from Jim Spivey

Jim has apparently had difficulties sending messages to the list and asked that I post the following: I remember warming down with a runner from Alaska after an indoor meet (maybe TAC's in NYC) in the mid to late 80's. Very nice guy - trained in Alaska and had to run on top of the buried oil

t-and-f: Pacing in major championships

Jim Spivey continues to have problems posting to the list. (Perhaps the current supervisor could get in touch with him to see what might be the problem. Although Jim is not a prolific poster, when he does have something to say, it's worth reading. There aren't many list members who have

t-and-f: why the Cal job is still open

Message text written by ghill sheepskin. Overrated credential. Well, yeah, except that the institution that is going to pay someone to fill that position happens to be in the business of selling those very pieces of sheepskin. If everyone believed that the credential was overrated, the

Re: t-and-f: why the Cal job is still open

Message text written by Bill Allen Hersh has benefited from credentialism too; he knows as well as I that many is the person who could represent a client as well as he with his JD or I with my LLB. But we have the benefit of the lawyer's monopoly. Ah yes, Bill, but that monopoly derives not

Re: t-and-f: Wanamaker? Dave Johnson

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was watching the PGA this past weekend and the winner of the tournament is awarded the Wanamaker trouphy. Same organization/person as the indoor mile? Yes.

t-and-f: Zürich pre-event

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Except for the actual Weltklasse meet itself, one of the most talked about and anticipated events on the circuit this year is the agents soccer match to be held the day before the meet. Puma and adidas have ponied up with uniforms and a good deal

t-and-f: Arrmory Olympic Champs

Message text written by Ed Grant For those interested in the presence of music at track meets, the Columbia University band---the armory is about 25 blocks south of the Columbia campus---was present in uniform in place of the former regimental band. The music was reported to be more

t-and-f: Kenyans

Message text written by Randall Northam But guess what happened in the Commonwealth Games Rugby Sevens today? It's funny you ask, Randall. I was just having lunch with a business colleague here in New York and he said Gee, I wonder what's happening in the Commonwealth Games Rugby Sevens. :-)

Re: t-and-f: Questioning Sean Shields's WJR

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There was a taping-the-hand issue. TFN didn't buy the argument and accepted the 67-9 as the HSR, even though it didn't get deserved Junior status. I'm not sure if the mark would be legal under current taping strictures. I doubt it. See IAAF

t-and-f: On state records

Message text written by Ed Grant Our state association keeps no records outside of its own championship meets. When metrics were introduced here in 1980, they promptly threw out all the previous records---including those for field events! It had taken quite a while to get all of them restored.

t-and-f: I know they're twins, but . . . .

The results of the Portland meet posted over the weekend by Charles Wandler and Michael Scott show that Calvin Harrison was 5th in the 400m. The ESPN telecast also said that he was in the race. But the IAAF and Track Field News are reporting it as Alvin Harrison. Does anyone know for sure

t-and-f: Junior nonsense

Message text written by Ed Grant For the world, US and other junior meets, however, a standard date has to be used (otherwise, you;d have people eligible for the qualifying meet and not for the championship). Heck, Ed. You could have people eligible for the heats of a championship race but

t-and-f: Fw: recipe

Message text written by John Bale Another true story? NONSENSE. This is an old urban legend. See: http://www.snopes.com/business/consumer/cookie.htm or http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/twofifty.html or http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blbyol19.htm?once=true; Bob H

t-and-f: ATTN: NYC Area List Members

In connection with our announcing duties at the Armory this weekend, Garry Hill and I may need some assistance in charting field events. The following would be essential: - Intelligence. More specifically, quickness, alertness, and habitual accuracy. - Good penmanship, eyesight, and hearing.

t-and-f: re: USATF Release

Message text written by Michael J. Roth I'm sure that the TFN guys can give a history of Todd Long (who the heck is he anyway), but I've never seen his name anywhere that I can remember. Among other things, he was our National Indoor Champion at 200m in 1995. Bob H

Re: t-and-f: What track can learn from Winter Games

Message text written by Shawn Devereaux Hey now, you already get point deductions in the vault for your success of executing a Volz or no deductions for superior ability of convincing the judges of your innocent intentions when Volzing the bar. Intent is not relevant. If the vaulter steadies

t-and-f: Need Help--Nyquil OK?

One of the athletes here in Lincoln is asking if Nyquil is ok to use. If not, can anyone suggest an equivalent cold remedy that's not on the banned list? The athlete should call the USADA Drug Reference Line: 1-800-233-0393. They should be able to answer both questions. Bob H

t-and-f: Mad. Sq. Garden Sprints Downhill?

Message text written by Chas. L. Shaffer In her post-race interview at the Millrose Games, Chandra Sturrup said something about the sprint track at Madison Square Garden being downhill. Bob H. and others: what is she talking about? In some of the camera angles of the men's sprint start,

Re: t-and-f: Ban USA Track?

Message text written by Randall Northam And does the US still have the rule where athletes are given 48 hours notice of an out of competition test No, we haven't done that in years.

t-and-f: Running afoul of copyright?

Message text written by P N Heidenstrom But anyone who steals intellectual property is just as much a thief as one who steals money or goods. I'm glad someone said this. I was a bit taken aback by one coach's statement that in coaching, it was ok to beg, borrow, and steal. I think he

t-and-f: american men's outdoor collegiate record - 3k?

Message text written by Geoff Thurner i'm adding a line to the record section (world/american/collegiate/hayward field/school) of the oregon track and field media guide and was wondering if there was an official men's outdoor collegiate 3,000 record The key word here, which Scott, Walter,

t-and-f: american men's outdoor collegiate record - 3k?

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can bet if I ever happen to be announcing a meet and be fortunate enough to see a collegian run faster than's Rono's mark, it WILL be announced as a collegiate record! The fans need to be made aware of what they have seen. I don't get

RE: t-and-f: Best all-time milers by state ?

Message text written by Chapman, Robert Meyer went to Univ of Arizona, started partying (supposedly), and dropped off the face of the planet - so I doubt he bettered his HS time. Maybe he moved to a planet with thinner air and less gravity.

t-and-f: Potts Library - V

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] First check which arrives on my doorstep for 60.00 gets them, Those who have sent the second, third, fourth, etc. checks that arrive on Scott's doorstep get a note of appreciation from Scott and a valuable autograph (Scott's endorsement of the

Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...think of it in different terms ...to connect with a recent thread on this list, I've been 'tapering' for my marathon debut for the last 20 years or so...but surely I need another 10-15 years at it... ...gotta be careful, if I over-taper I

Re: t-and-f: Indoor American Junior Record

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a good reason why there are no indoor American Junior Records? uh, cuz there's no World Records in that category either? gh And cuz there's no competition in that category, although juniors do run indoors. bh

t-and-f: The re-run

Message text written by Ed Grant The scoring system was to give each runner a numbered Goof Humor stick as he crossed the line. On this occasion, the runners were both tired from the climb and had slippery hands from the light rain. So they began dropping them all over the place. They should

t-and-f: Fwd: Hair Ribbons in Michigan

Mike -- I'm so glad you cleared that up for us. Now what about the interpretations in the other 49 states? I mean, you ARE an expert in High School track, are you not? Surely, you have all of that stuff at your fingertips. Bob H

t-and-f: Chip timing in the Times.

Message text written by Christopher Goss Bob H., I know that one of the troublesome issues with chip timing is the placement of the device on the foot rather than the sternum of the chest. Have the rulemakers considered changing this definition for non-laned or distance races? Or is the

Re: t-and-f: Chip timing in the Times.

Message text written by Eamonn Condon An unfair decision and one that clearly contravenes Mr Hersch's guideline. It's not just my guideline. It's in the IAAF and USATF rules. The official time is the gun time. Bob H

Re: t-and-f: Jon Drummond arrested in marijuana bust

Message text written by Seb Geb Meb Webb Drummond is still in custody as of Wednesday 8:30 am PDT under LA County Jail Booking number 7058461. Unless he bails out today, he will be arraigned tomorrow. Transportation of marijuana is a felony, punishable by a maximum of 4 years in state prison.

t-and-f: A note of comparison

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (quoting a correspondent in France) Islam is unfortunatly very important in France and Europ, and I do not want my daughter ( 5 years old ) live in a such terror in the future. This kind of thinking is what's unfortunate. It is morally and

Re: t-and-f: Question for New Yorkers

Message text written by Michael Contopoulos Actually the 168th St Armory is near the Columbia University Med School. Columbia University (business, Law, Teacher's college, grad programs, college and engineering schools) are nearly 3 miles away between 114th St and 120th St. Just wanted to

Re: t-and-f: Question for New Yorkers

Message text written by Michael Contopoulos Bob, Sorry for my remarks. I guess in this time of stress and disbelief (for all, not just me) I am not quite thinking completely rationally. Please accept my deepest apologies. Mike Thank you, but no apology is needed. Believe me, I

Re: t-and-f: Jones blows off Golden League $$$$

Message text written by Mike Takaha I'm not sure on this, but I don't think Marion was eligible to compete in the GP Final - I had the same thought and I looked it up on the IAAF website. She was in 8th place in the 200m GP, so I presume she was invited to the GP final. Bob H

t-and-f: Puke

Yuck. By far, the worst thread we've had in many years. Could we please stop. Let's instead talk about Entine's theories, doping, basketball, ANYTHING!!!

t-and-f: Universiade

Has anyone found a results area on the Universiade website? I couldn't find it. Has anyone found any other website that has, or is linking to, current results? Bob H

Re: t-and-f: J.J. Johnson

Message text written by Wayne T. Armbrust That's how it is in the old program I have. Program's wrong. Bill Allen is right.

Re: t-and-f: Morceli, El Guerrouj and pacing in championship races

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Though the rules seem to apply only to lapped runners providing pacing assistance (Bob Hersh?), I feel that El Guerrouj and Kaouch should have been disqualified for violating the spirit of fair play, especially since officials were aware of

Re: t-and-f: RE: t-and-f: El G's pace in Zürich

Message text written by Michael Contopoulos To begin with... 1200 feet is hardly altitude. I get so frustrated when people say that Edmonton is at altitude.. I believe Edmonton's altitude is about 2100 feet, not 1200.

Re: t-and-f: Post Edmonton thoughts

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a two-word answer to that line of thinking: Houston and Cerritos. As in the nationals of '89 and '90, where the domestic version of the sport, imho, came close to dieing at the top end. And I have a one-word answer to the same line of

t-and-f: False Start Rule and the Worlds

Message text written by Conway Had this been 2003 instead of 2001 the 2nd and 4th place finishers in the men's final would have been dq'd and therefore not run !! NO Boldon and NO Montgomery .. You're assuming that they would have not have been more careful if the rule were different. A shaky

t-and-f: pole vault qualifying question

Message text written by Shawn Devereaux for the men's qualifying round yesterday, 5.75 was the automatic qualifier, or the best 12, for the finals. 13 cleared 5.70 and the bar never advanced to 5.75. Rens Blom of the Netherlands was left out of the final based on misses, even though he could

RE: t-and-f: Definition of Junior

Message text written by USATFRRIC/honikman For Long Distance Running Committees of USA Track Field a junior is defined as any runner between the ages of 14 and 19 inclusive. Details for USATF Youth Athletics age categories can be found on the USATF web site (www.usatf.org). LDR road records

t-and-f: Scratch one, maybe two, from Edmonton

I haven't noticed either of these items on the list, so I thought I'd pass them along: Reuters has reported that Glory Alozie has switched her citizenship from Nigeria to Spain and therefore cannot compete in Edmonton because she represented Nigeria in Sydney.

t-and-f: Boys Girls breaks own 4x8 record

Alan Webb continued his storybook season by running a 1:47.3 anchor to lead his South Lakes teammates to victory over Florida's Atlantic H.S., 7:35.33-7:37.31. SL's time of 7:35.33 is the fastest by an Eastern team since 1966, when NY's Andrew Jackson and Boys High engaged in that memorable

t-and-f: Rule question

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If these are separate rules please let me know, and send me all applicable rules. And I really do need the specific wording of it. It's USATF Rule 10.3(b) and the text of that rule (and all of the USATF Rules of Competition) can be found on

Re: t-and-f: Boys Girls breaks own 4x8 record

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What you did not say, except by subtle implication, is that SL's time is a national high school record for 4x800m, which is absolutely true. It mey be an inferior record to the 4x880y record, but it's a record nonetheless. I did not say(subtly

RE: t-and-f: Byron Dyce first African-American under 4:00 ?

The answer to your question obviously depends on whether you ask Track and Field News or the Organization of American States.

re: t-and-f: times on NC state records

I might point out that under IAAF and USATF rules, if an automatic timing device is NOT started by the starter's pistol, the film or image itself is supposed to show that. (The two rules have slightly differerent wording but identical intent.) Bob H

t-and-f: times on NC state records

Message text written by david honea And sometimes - such as the boys 3200 - it is actually six seconds slower than someone has run for a longer race in the state meet. (Old 2 mile record 9:02; current 3200 record 9:08.) I'm not sure what the equivalent would be, but I suspect that if something

Re: t-and-f: World 10k bests and rabbits

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The last mile WR set without a rabbit was Filbert Bayi's 3:51.0, set in Kingston, Jamaica, on May 17, 1975. I could be wrong, but I think his performance may to this day be the fastest mile ever run without a rabbit. Bob H

t-and-f: ATFS Annuals

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Order early and often, but order!! Is that an order?

t-and-f: MJ WON'T run in Edmonton

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] any athlete planning to run in Edmonton has to go to the (U.S.) meet and run one round in one event. At LEAST one round, Walter.

t-and-f: Entry list for Cardinal Invitational

Message text written by Michael Reilly Cardinal Track Field Invitational Cobb Track and Angell Field Stanford University May 4, 2001 LIST OF DECLARED ENTRANTS . . . . Men's 3000 Meter Steeplechase (2 sections) NON-Championship section will be at 7:15pm. Championship section will race at

t-and-f: Ignore the last question

Looking at the results more carefully, I see the answer.

Re: t-and-f: The Real Katie Meyer?

Message text written by grenier I talked to Katie Meyer. She did run 10th and had a PR. Kerry Hils was in New York for the NFL draft So then who was 4th at Mt. SAC?

t-and-f: Return to the Real World

My euphoria the other day over reading that Hicham El Guerrouj was going to be at the Pre meet was short lived. I was thinking about that and smiling, and a non-track friend of mine asked what I was so happy about, and I explained. My friend then asked, "How come this guy is coming all the

t-and-f: usatf athlete of the week

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note that it was a mere 0.09 off the "club WR," of 37.79 set by an august Santa Monica TC bunch 10 years ago. Yeah, and that was august. This was only april.

t-and-f: Of several things

Message text written by "Ed Grant" At Princeton this winter, the curb was removed for the state meets (but was used at the Princeton Relays, figure that one out). We were told the removal had something to do with falls that had occurred during informal running sessions there (some people forget

RE: t-and-f: DI Regional Qualifying Discussion

Message text written by "Philip Pinkowsky" This would open the door to Auto qualified athletes being able to 'rest' before Nationals, while others need to race through the Regionals the week before to get to Nationals. Not necessarily. They could require that the auto qualifiers had place in

Re: t-and-f: Creating Good Distance runners in the US

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was a NY/NJ tough guy and moved to Florida, where if it's 70 it's referred to as "chilly" and morphed into a pansy. I do agree with the theory, however that the harsher conditions in some locals tend to breed tougher runners. My father used

Re: t-and-f: Creating Good Distance runners in the US

Message text written by Robert Hersh His believed that it is difficult to be intellectually disciplined if you live in paradise. And I believe that it's difficult to write coherent e-mails when you're jet lagged. Sorry about that. Obviously, a bit of my brain is still in Lisbon. Bob H

t-and-f: PVWAtG *** NEWS FLASH *** Dragila WR(?) @ Pocatello

Message text written by "Michael J. Roth" there are specific guidlines set bythe IAAF on what constitutes a legal runway. The Commish or GH can fill us in on the details. Yes we can, but so can you. The IAAF and USATF have their current rule books on their respective websites and you and

t-and-f: PVWAtG *** NEWS FLASH *** Dragila WR(?) @ Pocatello

Since I've now said this in response to several private messages, I might as well say it publicly. I am not aware of any irregularity in the pole vault runway in Pocatello. Of course, never having seen it, I can't swear that there isn't a problem, but if there is, it's news to me--I haven't

t-and-f: Re: Proper Split timing

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rather, it's the 800 start point. (actually, i guess the second leg on a 4x2, if you try and split that, is there too) No, actually, the mid-point of the zone for the second exchange leg on a 4x2 run entirely in lanes is at the 400m start

Re: t-and-f: VINCE CARTIER AND KEVIN BYRNE

A good, but non-awesome career for Kevin in college. Byrne was one of those guys who, as I recall, was incredibly physically mature as a high school sophomore. I was disappointed, but not shocked, that he did not have an awesome career in college or beyond.

Re: t-and-f: devers at GP Final/ Libel 101

Message text written by "A.J. Craddock" Speculation as to Devers' bizarre performance at Sydney, and her miraculous rebirth at the GP Final are entirely appropriate Your characterizations of Devers's performances are absurd, and speculations about those performances of the kind that have

t-and-f: Good News

I was very pleased to get the following update on the Arnie Robinson situation from someone I know in San Diego. You may know that Arnie Robinson was in a serious traffic accident. The evening of August 26, his car was hit by a drunk driver (usual story: wrong way on a divided road, lights