Re: t-and-f: WPV
Also getting collegiate records were Perdita Felicien in the 60H (7.90) and Candace Scott in the WT (23.05 / 75-7.5). It appears from the results that in the weight Jamine Moton set the CR at 22.50m (73-10) in flight 1 of the prelims then Scott reclaimed the record in flight 2, first at 22.78 (74-9) and then her winning 23.05. They broke Scott's record of 22.32 (73-2.75), In the hurdles, Felicien broke Danielle Carruthers record of 7.92, a mark Carruthers equaled in finishing second. Mike Takaha - Original Message - From: Michael J. Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TF Listserve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:37 PM Subject: t-and-f: WPV For those who had not realized, Amy Linnen's PV was another NCAA Record, her 2nd of the year. MJR
t-and-f: Essay by medical geneticist with Academy of Arts and Sciences on'human differences' -- and why different 'races' do better in differentsports
Do Genetically Based Differences Explain Some (or Much) of the Pattern of Different Sports Performances by Population? I just ran across an article in the current Daedalus, which is the magazine of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences... a very, very prestigious science journal. It discusses quite clearly (I believe) why there are biologically based differences that can (and in fact do) account of sports performance disparities and other behavior differences between population groups. It's not much different than the points I've raised. Here are two excerpts relating to sports; most of the piece is pegged to the larger issue: To any sports observer it is obvious that among Olympic jumpers and sprinters, African Americans are far more numerous than their frequency in the population would predict. The disproportion is enormous. Yet we also know that there are many white people who are better runners and jumpers than the average black person. How can we explain this seeming inconsistency? There is actually a simple explanation that is well known to geneticists and statisticians, but not widely understood by the general public or, for that matter, by political leaders. [HE THEN EXPLAINS] I have already mentioned the gross overrepresentation of African Americans among Olympic runners. This is closer to a true meritocracy than anything else I can think of: a stopwatch is color-blind. *** The entire essay can be downloaded on PDF format by going to the following web page and clicking either James Crow's name or the title of the article -- they're both the same link: http://www.daedalus.amacad.org/issues/winter2002/winter2002.htm It's a great complement to my article, The Straw Man of 'Race' (World I, September 2002) which discusses the 'politics' that drives the way this issue is discussed. That's at: http://www.jonentine.com/reviews/straw_man_of_race.htm * Here's the first few paragraphs: Unequal by Nature: A Geneticist¹s Perspective on Human Differences James F. Crow In February of 2001, Craig Venter, president of Celera Genomics, commenting on the near-completion of the human genome project, said that ³we are all essentially identical twins.² A news headline at the time made a similar point: Are We All One Race? Modern Science Says So. In the article that followed, the author quoted geneticist Kenneth Kidd: ³Race is not biologically definable, we are far too similar.² Venter and Kidd are eminent scientists, so these statements must be reasonable. Based on an examination of our DNA, any two human beings are 99.9 percent identical. The genetic differences between different groups of human beings are similarly minute. Still, we only have to look around to see an astonishing variety of individual differences in sizes, shapes, and facial features. Equally clear are individual differences in susceptibility to diseaseand in athletic, mathematical, and musical abilities. Individual differences extend to differences between group averages. Most of these average differences are inconspicuous, but somesuch as skin colorstand out. Why this curious discrepancy between the evidence of DNA and what we can clearly see? If not DNA, what are the causes of the differences we perceive between individuals and between groups of human beings? DNA is a very long molecule, composed of two strands twisted around each other to produce the famous double helix. There are forty-six such DNA molecules in a human cell, each (along with some proteins) forming a chromosome. The DNA in a human chromosome, if stretched out, would be an inch or more in length. How this is compacted into a microscopic blob some 1/1000 inch long without getting hopelessly tangled is an engineering marvel that is still a puzzle. ...8 more pages... -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com
t-and-f: USADA - Who monitors the positives
Desiree Owens was handed a 2 year suspension for taking an illegal substance. Since the suspension she has competed and won 2 road races. What is the ruling, and who is supposed to be monitoring the athletes when they fail such a test??? Thanks, Jim McLatchie
t-and-f: NCAA DII - Nationals summary
NCAA DII Nationals, Reggie Lewis Track Athletic Center, Boston MA, March 8-9 Abilene Christian took the men's title by 30 points over St.Augustine's and Western State, 74-44. John Kemboi duplicated his 800 / mile double of 2001 and Terrance Woods took both the triple jump and high jump, the latter in a championships record 2.25m/7'4.5 Western State scored all of its points in the mile and 5000, with Michael Aish becoming the first 4 time championship winner in any event (5000, 14:04.74). Women's scoring was led by a well balanced North Dakota State team, with 67.5, sealing their win with a 4x400 victory in 3:41.58. St. Augustine's 45 points took the silver award. Zoila Gomez of Adams State was a double winner in the mile (4:43.94) and 5000 (16:32.38) The meet will be in Boston through 2005 Full results at www.ecac.org Steve Vaitones Managing Director USA Track Field - New England Association P.O.Box 1905 Brookline MA 02446-0016 Phone: 617 566 7600 Fax: 617 734 6322 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.usatfne.org
t-and-f: 2 HSRs in NY
Took the train (the N to the uptown A) to the Armory/NYC today for Day 2 of the National High School Indoor, just in time to catch 2 national records. A third was just missed. Girls 200m Has there ever been a HS field like this? The lineup for Sunday's final, with each athlete's (outdoor) PR: Angel Perkins Calif 23.07/52.18 Allyson Felix Calif 23.31 Shana Cox NY 23.91 Sanya Richards Fla 23.09 Janice DavisMiss23.71 Stephanie Smith Ga 52.11 The heat results: I *Dominique Dorsey Inglewood, Cal 24.75 lane 4 II *Stephanie SmithNortheast, Macon24.25q lane 5 III -Angel Perkins Gahr, Cerritos 24.28q lane 6 IV -Juliette Poussot Irwin, Rosemont Pa 24.75 lane 2 V *Allyson Felix LA Baptist 24.26q lane 3 VI -Ashley Purnell Ontario Can 24.74 lane 6 VII *Shana Cox Holy Trinity, Hicksville 24.28q lane 6 *Tiffany Abney Merion Mercy, Pa24.64 lane 5 IX -Sanya Richards St. Aquinas, Fort Lauderdale/Jamaica 23.41q HSR lane 5 X *Janice Davis Natchez Miss24.15q lane 4 *Yendy GilchristNYC 24.82 lane 6 Sherraine PencilOntario 24.86 lane 5 Richards takes back the indoor HSR she set (23.64) in 2000 but lost last year to Perkins (23.59) on this track. Girls' PV Samantha Shepard (Weston, Mass) raised her own indoor HSR to 13-4.25 (4.07), becoming 2nd all-time HS to outdoor recordholder Shayla Balentine. She then failed 3 times at 13-8.25. In the process she defeated the three other leading prep vaulters in the country: Stacie Manuel (Willmar, Minn), Molly Lederman (Newton, Mass) and Julene Bailey (Nampa, Idaho). Manuel had a 3rd-attempt clearance of 13-0.25 (3.97), Lederman the same at 12-8.25 (3.87), and Bailey cleared 12-4.5 (3.77) on her first try after a number of misses at lower heights. Manuel, Shepard and Lederman are seniors; Bailey is a junior. The highest-finishing soph was Anna McFarlane (Concord, Mass), who slithered over 12-0.5 (3.67) with her back to the mat, like a flop jumper. Girls 4xmile Bronxville NY took a shot at the HSR of 20:23.24, set 2 years ago by Rockford, Mich. They had a good challenge from Red Bank Regional (NJ) but fell just short, running 20:29.30. Red Bank had a 5:38 leg so settled for 20:46.30; they were leading at the 2nd exchange: Bronxville Kate Ogorzaly 5:09.0, Caroline Mullen 5:11.4, Catha Mullen 5:11.1, Michelle Rorke 4:57.8 Red Bank 5:09.2, Kathleen Trotter 5:01.7, 5:38, Amanda Trotter 4:58 Other highlights Girls 4x2 heats Fastest: North (Cal) 1:38.98, Speed City (Wilson-LB, Cal) 1:39.09 Boys 4x2 heats Finalists: Deep Creek (Va) 1:27.68 (3rd-fastest a-t), Taft (Cal) 1:28.40, Speed City 1:28.45, Lakeland Va 1:29.07, Poly Prep (Brooklyn) 1:29.13, DeMatha (Md) 1:29.24 Friday followup: Stacey Ann Livingston, Boys Girls' star, collapsed at the finish of the SMR. She had been sick during the week and ran (only) 2:12 on the anchor 800. By virtue of Selena Sappleton's 2:10 anchor, rival A. Philip Randolph won the race instead, and just missed Wilson's HSR. JP
Re: t-and-f: Am I getting to old to coach? New rules in HS
In a message dated 3/6/02 2:46:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the discussion turned to what to do with navel rings under uniforms According to the NHSF Case Book, they are legal, since they are not normally visible (the case was about a hypothetical LJer whose singlet rose while in the air). I clerked one of the CT state indoor meets last month and had to tell at least 25 per cent of the kids to remove ear rings, necklaces, etc. Many said it was the first time they had heard of the rule. Ironically, watches are legal since they are considered track equipment, although it would seem to me that an athlete could gain an unfair advantage from a watch, but not from a necklace. Jim Gerweck Running Times
t-and-f: Re: Am I getting to old to coach? New rules in HS
on 3/10/02 12:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/6/02 2:46:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the discussion turned to what to do with navel rings under uniforms According to the NHSF Case Book, they are legal, since they are not normally visible (the case was about a hypothetical LJer whose singlet rose while in the air). I clerked one of the CT state indoor meets last month and had to tell at least 25 per cent of the kids to remove ear rings, necklaces, etc. Many said it was the first time they had heard of the rule. Ironically, watches are legal since they are considered track equipment, although it would seem to me that an athlete could gain an unfair advantage from a watch, but not from a necklace. Jim Gerweck Running Times Look on pages 54 - 55 of the latest Track and Field News, Thomas and Broaddus are both wearing necklaces and Broaddus is wearing bike shorts. Tom
t-and-f: Regional flaw
For those who like to cite regionals as a sound method for progressing to the NCAA's, examine the result of tonight's men's 400 meter result at the NCAA. ALL the athletes are from the Southeast. If you make regionals the process to qualify, they would have to knock each other out to progress to the NCAA's, whereas in other parts of the country, inferior athletes would be proceeding to the meet from weaker regions. Furthermore, notice how three of the first four finishers are from the same school. This is the way talent is: it accumulates and escalates in pockets, it does not evenly sprinkle itself around. 1 Alleyene FranciqueLSU 45.58 2 Pete ColeyLSU 45.62 3 Gary Kikaya Tennessee45.93 4 Lueroy ColquhounLSU 46.35 5 Ato Modibo Clemson 46.44 6 Shameron Turner Auburn 46.77 7 Godfrey HerringMiddle Tenn. 47.10 8 Rickey HarrisFlorida1:02.24 2 1
Re: t-and-f: Regional flaw
Not according to the most recent proposals which would not divide the four regions into Northeast, South, Midwest, and West as you seem to assume. Instead, the four regions would each go north to south like the timezones except they would push further east where more schools are. The Eastern region would hug the coast, the Mideast region would be entirely east of the Mississippi, etc. The SEC schools would be split among three different regions. Ed Koch -Original Message- From: Bruce Lehane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jack Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, March 09, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: t-and-f: Regional flaw For those who like to cite regionals as a sound method for progressing to the NCAA's, examine the result of tonight's men's 400 meter result at the NCAA. ALL the athletes are from the Southeast. If you make regionals the process to qualify, they would have to knock each other out to progress to the NCAA's, whereas in other parts of the country, inferior athletes would be proceeding to the meet from weaker regions. Furthermore, notice how three of the first four finishers are from the same school. This is the way talent is: it accumulates and escalates in pockets, it does not evenly sprinkle itself around. 1 Alleyene FranciqueLSU 45.58 2 Pete ColeyLSU 45.62 3 Gary Kikaya Tennessee45.93 4 Lueroy ColquhounLSU 46.35 5 Ato Modibo Clemson 46.44 6 Shameron Turner Auburn 46.77 7 Godfrey HerringMiddle Tenn. 47.10 8 Rickey HarrisFlorida1:02.24 2 1
t-and-f: NCAA D-1 Indoor Champs -- Complete Agate
NCAA Division I 2002 Indoor Championship - 3/8/2002 to 3/9/2002 Randal Tyson Track Center University of Arkansas, Fayetteville, AR Friday Events Men 60 Meter Dash Preliminaries: 1. Leonard Scott, Tennessee, 6.55Q; 2. Justin Gatlin, Tennessee, 6.57Q; 3. Terence Newman, Kansas St., 6.62q; 4. Samie Parker, Oregon, 6.63q; 5. Dwight Thomas, Clemson, 6.64q; 6. Pierre Browne, MS State, 6.64q; 7. Anson Henry, WA State, 6.65q; 8. Mardy Scales, M. Tenn. St., 6.65q; 9. Latonel Williams, Alabama, 6.65; 10. Chris Johnson, Arkansas-LR, 6.66; 11. Michael Frater, TCU, 6.68; 12. James Shelton, Mississippi, 6.69; 13. Tre Gardner, Texas, 6.70; 14. Jeffrey Fourth, SC State, 6.70; 15. Julien Dunkley, ECU, 6.71; --. Taiwo Ajibade, UTEP, FS. Men 200 Meter Dash Finals: 1. Justin Gatlin, Tennessee, 20.63; 2. Marquis Davis, MS State, 20.76; 3. Leonard Scott, Tennessee, 20.80; 4. Pierre Browne, MS State, 20.84; 5. Aaron Egbele, UTEP, 20.90; 6. Kendrick Triggs, Mississippi, 20.92; 7. Leo Bookman, Kansas, 21.12; 8. Ryan Olkowski, Penn St., 21.23. Men 200 Meter Dash Preliminaries: 1. Justin Gatlin, Tennessee, 20.64q; 2. Marquis Davis, MS State, 20.91q; 3. Leo Bookman, Kansas, 20.93q; 4. Leonard Scott, Tennessee, 20.94q; 5. Kendrick Triggs, Mississippi, 20.94q; 6. Pierre Browne, MS State, 20.94q; 7. Aaron Egbele, UTEP, 20.97q; 8. Ryan Olkowski, Penn St., 20.98q; 9. Andre Totton, S. Carolina, 21.00; 10. Anthony Buchanan, WA State, 21.15; 11. Kyle Farmer, Florida, 21.16; 12. Anthony Moorman, Illinois, 21.21; 13. Mardy Scales, M. Tenn. St., 21.59; --. Michael Lipscomb, UCLA, DQ; --. Taylor Jacobs, Florida, DQ. Men 400 Meter Dash: 1. Alleyene Francique, LSU, 45.70q; 2. Pete Coley, LSU, 46.07q; 3. Gary Kikaya, Tennessee, 46.07q; 4. Rickey Harris, Florida, 46.31q; 5. Shameron Turner, Auburn, 46.38q; 6. Godfrey Herring, M. Tenn. St., 46.41q; 7. Lueroy Colquhoun, LSU, 46.41q; 8. Ato Modibo, Clemson, 46.43q; 9. Mitch Potter, Minnesota, 46.49; 10. Benjamin Henderson, ECU, 46.55; 11. Darold Williamson, Baylor, 46.61; 12. Nduka Awazie, Eastern MI, 46.71; 13. Sanjay Ayre, Auburn, 46.86; 14. Mike Kenyon, Arizona, 47.05; 15. Joe Mendel, Connecticut, 47.36; --. Otis Harris, S. Carolina, DQ. Men 800 Meter Run: 1. Sam Burley, Penn, 1:48.41Q; 2. Otukile Lekote, S. Carolina, 1:48.57Q; 3. Moise Joseph, Florida, 1:48.44Q; 4. Marc Sylvester, Tennessee, 1:48.59Q; 5. Simon Kimata, Oregon, 1:48.55q; 6. Jonathan Johnson, Texas Tech, 1:48.73q; 7. Fred Sharpe, Auburn, 1:48.99q; 8. Said Ahmed, Arkansas, 1:49.41q; 9. David Freeman, Kentucky, 1:49.45; 10. Robbie Stevens, Arkansas, 1:49.57; 11. Chadwick Johnson, Kentucky, 1:49.83; 12. Timothy Dunne, Missouri, 1:50.13; 13. Aldwyn Sappleton, Oklahoma, 1:50.34; 14. Elliott Blount, Connecticut, 1:51.32; 15. Stewart Kimball, Missouri, 1:51.86; 16. Mike Taylor, Arkansas, 1:54.60. Men 1 Mile Run: 1. Donald Sage, Stanford, 4:01.80Q; 2. John Jefferson, Indiana, 4:06.26Q; 3. Christian Goy, Illinois St., 4:02.09Q; 4. Hunter Spencer, Kentucky, 4:06.27Q; 5. David Kimani, Alabama, 4:02.18Q; 6. Eliud Njubi, TCU, 4:06.90Q; 7. Joel Atwater, Weber, 4:02.43q; 8. Brendon Mahoney, Georgia Tech, 4:02.50q; 9. Jeremy Tolman, Weber, 4:02.66q; 10. Chris Mulvaney, Arkansas, 4:02.69q; 11. Nathan Brannen, Michigan, 4:03.53q; 12. Scott McGowan, Montana, 4:06.91; 13. Eric Garner, Washington, 4:07.06; 14. Brandon Strong, Arizona St., 4:08.27; 15. Daniel Wilson, Connecticut, 4:08.41; 16. Bashar Ibrahim, UTEP, 4:12.02. Men 5000 Meter Run: 1. Alistair Cragg, Arkansas, 13:49.80; 2. Jorge Torres, Colorado, 13:50.35; 3. Dathan Ritzenhein, Colorado, 13:50.51; 4. Daniel Lincoln, Arkansas, 13:57.71; 5. Jason Sandfort, Arkansas, 14:00.65; 6. Ryan Shay, Notre Dame, 14:02.97; 7. Tom McArdle, Dartmouth, 14:03.29; 8. Louis Luchini, Stanford, 14:11.15; 9. Peter Riley, Iona, 14:11.53; 10. Joe Driscoll, Portland, 14:13.93; 11. Chris Emme, Stanford, 14:15.20; 12. Chris Powers, Indiana, 14:18.05; 13. Adam Wallace, Wisconsin, 14:19.07; 14. Jason Woolhouse, Oklahoma St., 14:37.70; --. Graema Reid, Iona, DNF. Men 60 Meter Hurdles Finals: 1. Ron Bramlett, Alabama, 7.59; 2. Chris Pinnock, Texas AM, 7.60; 3. Jermaine Cooper, Texas, 7.73; 4. Todd Matthews, Clemson, 7.79; 5. Karl Jennings, Tennessee, 7.80; 6. Jeff Young, S. Illinois, 7.87; 7. Michael Thomas, Arkansas, 7.91; 8. Corey Taylor, S. Carolina, 7.99. Men 60 Meter Hurdles Preliminaries: 1. Ron Bramlett, Alabama, 7.55Q; 2. Jermaine Cooper, Texas, 7.69Q; 3. Jeff Young, S. Illinois, 7.83Q; 4. Chris Pinnock, Texas AM, 7.74q; 5. Michael Thomas, Arkansas, 7.74q; 6. Karl Jennings, Tennessee, 7.78q; 7. Todd Matthews, Clemson, 7.80q; 8. Corey Taylor, S. Carolina, 7.82q; 9. Joel Bown, Ohio St., 7.87; 10. Jon Mungen, Wisconsin, 7.89; 11. Eddie Jackson, Arkansas, 7.92; 12. Hassaan Stamps, Tennessee, 7.94; 13. Jamare Clarington, Florida Int., 8.03; 14.
Re: t-and-f: Regional flaw
Nobody's from west of the Mississippi, so your comment confirms my point. Edward Koch wrote: Not according to the most recent proposals which would not divide the four regions into Northeast, South, Midwest, and West as you seem to assume. Instead, the four regions would each go north to south like the timezones except they would push further east where more schools are. The Eastern region would hug the coast, the Mideast region would be entirely east of the Mississippi, etc. The SEC schools would be split among three different regions. Ed Koch -Original Message- From: Bruce Lehane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jack Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, March 09, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: t-and-f: Regional flaw For those who like to cite regionals as a sound method for progressing to the NCAA's, examine the result of tonight's men's 400 meter result at the NCAA. ALL the athletes are from the Southeast. If you make regionals the process to qualify, they would have to knock each other out to progress to the NCAA's, whereas in other parts of the country, inferior athletes would be proceeding to the meet from weaker regions. Furthermore, notice how three of the first four finishers are from the same school. This is the way talent is: it accumulates and escalates in pockets, it does not evenly sprinkle itself around. 1 Alleyene FranciqueLSU 45.58 2 Pete ColeyLSU 45.62 3 Gary Kikaya Tennessee45.93 4 Lueroy ColquhounLSU 46.35 5 Ato Modibo Clemson 46.44 6 Shameron Turner Auburn 46.77 7 Godfrey HerringMiddle Tenn. 47.10 8 Rickey HarrisFlorida1:02.24 2 1
