Re: t-and-f: Grote tri's something new

Ghostly or ghastly? At 4:18 PM -0400 8/6/04, Jorma Kurry wrote: I was at his race last year (went to watch an old roommate). let's just say that after 6 hours of competing in the hills and cold rain, he looked even more ghostly than usual, for those who've had the good fortune to meet grote in

Re: t-and-f: Historical question

Timing for events beyond the 800 (or at least starting with the 1500) was to the fifth-second through at least the mid-'50s. John Landy's 3:58.0 WR in 1954 was actually a 3:57.9. Without checking rulebooks I'm not certain when the rule changed so that fifth-second timing pertained only to

Re: t-and-f: unlikely venue

Yankee Stadium served as a track and field venue for several meets in its first 10+ years. The Wilco AC Games of 9 Sep 1923 was one of the first meets (possibly THE first) held in the Stadium, which opened earlier the same year. Yankee Stadium was the site of the Eastern Olympic Trials in

Re: t-and-f: Brumel was a masters jumper, too

I remember watching Beilschmidt clear 2.15 with a scissors during warm-ups at Montreal '79 World Cup. At 2:28 PM -0800 1/28/03, ghill wrote: last straddle WR setter was Vladimir Yashchenko (SU) at 7-8 in '78. Coincidentally, he's also no longer with us. Wonder who the highest living straddler

t-and-f: Franklin Field Aerial View

Folks: I just found this satellite photo of Franklin Field at the following url: http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?t=1s=10x=2418y=22111z=18w=2 This was taken on Penn Relays Saturday, April 24, 1999, at about 4:00 pm. Attendance that day was 44,639. You can't imagine how much

Re: t-and-f: ready to vote

At 11:23 PM -0600 1/8/03, Mike Prizy wrote: The money saved from the Mascot RD Fund was transferred over to the Mascot Legal Defense Fund. P.S. No copy rights on Fartlek. Unless they belong to the estate of Gosta Holmer.

Re: t-and-f: re: Mascot HEY JILL

Apocolypse make it? Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

here is a guy with a skill and we got him. Two nights ago, Part beat Phil Taylor, who had won the world championship title for eight years in a row. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Former Pitt track coach issues blistering statementaf ter firing

always had an outdoor track. The indoor facility, which is seldom used because it's too difficult to quickly convert from a basketball configuration, was built after Elliott passed away in 1981. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Re Thomas Moore

rushed up and shook him by the hand, an almost unheard-of thing for a white man in the South. For more on Taylor, you can read a piece I wrote on him for the Ivy League website at (www.ivyleaguesports.com/documents/bhc.asp). Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: What track can learn from Winter Games

, tripping, catching big rig, etc. I can see the wheels turning in Dave Johnson's head already. The Penn Relays - Oldest, Biggest, and now, Longest! Come to think of it, we used to do something similar for workouts - I think it's called a Perlauf relay. Jim Gerweck Running Times Dave Johnson [EMAIL

Re: t-and-f: Looking a gift horse (was USATF Advertising idea...)

providers is quite different, I think. One always has to question the level of service provided, and, if it's less than what you're getting now, is it worth the aggravation for the lesser price? Sometimes it's a lot cheaper to spend money than to have it given to you. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: National Indoor

the kindness of strangers. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Physical limits to the mile revisited

thought we were so close to the limit. As of the April 29 '58, the WR was Derek Ibbotson's 3:57.2 from '57. It's hard to imagine that he could see improvement of only six-tenths of a second from there on! Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: Black American distance runners

to 2nd place. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: Ancient TF medals

contact me off-list. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: What's up with these officials???

. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: What are we really saying?

/worldwide.aspx Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: My miserable Bruce Dern Moment

for the past 10 minutes. Perhaps because the pace car was parked on the side of the road? Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Bruce Dern (was Famous people in TF)

was a 1:54-type half-miler then, went out in 2:00 and died big time, running mid-4:30s or so, and taking Penn out of the race. Doherty wasn't happy. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: My miserable Bruce Dern Moment

saved, but it has been misplaced. It told of his high school, collegiate post collegiate running career. Is there a way to track it down? Is it saved online anywhere? Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track?

At 12:05 PM -0500 13.12.2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! That's a mix. Puffy and the Marist Brothers...:-) NeTrack But maybe better than the Marx Brothers, or even the Marxist Brothers. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Famous people who have run track?

Figures: Henry VIII (English HT champion) William Penn (LJ) George Washington (LJ) TRIVIA ANSWER (would qualify in both Politics/Civil Rights and Entertainment, . . . last name fits between Raitt and Robinson, . . . PAU L ROBESON Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: USATF News Notes: December 5, 2001

. It is undoubtedly time for me to crawl back under my rock as I've publicly shown myself to be unworthy of living on this list. Bezball not been bery, bery good to me! Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: USATF News Notes: December 5, 2001

us.) Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Best all-time milers by state ?

Friends '87) 3:58.23 '93 Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: NJ area Perspective

have been in touch with her. She was about a half hour late getting to work Tuesday, so she never got to her office. I don't know more. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Jenny Adams - 100HH/LJ combo

object as the level of competition was probably better than at any of the three preceding Games), then you're looking at 1900 when Alvin Kraenzlein won both events and John McLean (of Die Hard fame) was 2nd in the hurdles and 6th in the LJ. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: CanAm Results: New Balance Maine Distance Festival

, Carter, Farm Team, 8:51.84; 7, Milne, CAN, 8:54.28; 8, Bryson, Farm Team, 8:54.82; 9, Digennaro, Deleware, 9:02.31; 8, Cararra, GLRR, 9:34.91. --- I notice Croghan shows up again. He entered USA nationals, but did not declare. Anyone know what was wrong? Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Top NJ HS Milers...WALK or RUN

Koch But could Lemmon have beaten Cary Grant (of Walk, Don't Run fame) in the racewalk at the '64 Olympics? Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: On several things

of 100, 100, 200, and 400, or the English equivalents. The other relays run were 4x1, 4x4 and 4x8. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: t-and-f: Come on!!!

(Hui-neng), Verse 46, lines 37-40, Yampolsky translation, Columbia University Press, 1967. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, maybe I'm wrong butcan't most WC guys who run 3:53 and better run at least 47-48? Just wonderin'. Probably. And even most American high school kids who have run 3:53 have also run 47 on a relay. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Webb 4:01.81-1600/mile

have covered the last 9.35 meters in about 1.4 seconds. In this race he covered the distance in 2.31 seconds. He must have been hurting badly! Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Track dis'd again

, merely a focusing of the story. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: another thought on standing (if you can stand it)

to be more respectful of those around you. - The old farts are also those who were brought up in an era in which people wrote results in their programs, something much more easily accomplished while sitting. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Penn Relays

know? Dan -- There is a men's Distance Medley on Friday, occupying the same slot it (or a 4x800) has for the last dozen years or so. Last year's 4x1500 race was a one-shot arrangement, but generated insufficient interest to stage it again. Dave Johnson, Penn Relays Director Dave John

Re: t-and-f: Freshman 4x400

was a frosh at UTEP in '72. Don't know that figures into whether he had a fast leg as a frosh. Nehemiah was a soph when he ran the 44.3 in '79. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Where did the following high school milers go tocollege?

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:34:24 -0800, Buck Jones wrote: I expect many on this list know that Lee LaBadie went to Ohio State (running under 4:00 for the mile, BTW). I hope nobody on this list knows this, because LaBadie actually went to Illinois. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: Ancient School Records

+, but with questions attached): 100m, Ralph Metcalfe (Marquette) 10.38 '32 (program continuity??) 1500m, Tom O'Hara (Loyloa/Chicago) 3:38.1 '64 (program continuity??) 110mH, Bil Porter (Northwestern) 13.90 '48 Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Olympic trivia--twice.

medals from the 1900 Games in Paris. I've not seen the medals, but my suspicion is that they may not have been awarded by the Olympic Committee but by the Paris Exposition of 1900, under whose auspices the Olympic Games were jointly conducted. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Brussels 10k

in recent years. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: day 11 wit and wisdom

can Atwood, wore them to avoid getting blinded by the sun as it set behind the rim of LA Memorial Coliseum. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: Re: Track Fashion (was: day 11 wit and wisdom)

g the list tradition alive with another quiz show appearance. You can watch me compete on "Win Ben Stein's Money" next Tuesday, Sept 12, Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Now I get it

. What would keep us from hiring one of these European meet directors to produce one of our meets. John -- It's not the meet directors you need to hire, it's the entire climate and the money that climate generates. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]