Re: t-and-f: thin sprinters

In a message dated 9/25/02 11:53:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's really amazing to see how few 6-footers make it into the World Rankings in the 100. Too hard to get out of the blocks as quickly as shorter men? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: searching for a book title

In a message dated 9/9/02 5:11:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anybody know anything about Atkinson? I have to think either he doesn't know much about running, or assumes his readers don't, to pitch the idea of a sub-2 in 1968. I groaned when I read that part. Didn't he change his name

Re: t-and-f: super-conference weekend?

In a message dated 9/9/02 7:55:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I think it's almost criminal to kill a kid so that they can't compete at their country's national champs. If it were, they couldn't build enough jails. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Viren article and journalism and double standards

In a message dated 9/4/02 9:07:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Attacking journalists when they make mistakes, however, clearly is not appropriate or effective most of the time. - Ed Parrot But it's OK for journalists to do the same? malmo Sure. It's in the job description. Jim Gerweck

Re: t-and-f: Why on the street?

In Boston I would barely DRIVE in the streets, much less run there. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: 17-year-old (?) runs sub-3:33

In a message dated 8/19/02 8:38:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hillary Chenonge ran 13:06.47 for 9th place in the 5k in Zurich. With a name like that, no wonder he ran so fast (a la Johnny Cash's Boy Named Sue). Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Webb poll

In a message dated 8/16/02 10:02:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And having run 3:53 as an 18-year-old it's hard to believe he'd still be in the sport as a 3:55 man in 2008; maybe a 3:50 miler would have been a better option. I thought you were always known by your all-time PR. Hence, even if

Re: t-and-f: Dave Johnson a Body Guard?

In a message dated 8/3/02 8:23:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I could swear that his body guard was Decathlete Dave Johnson. Does anyone know if this is true? I would bet it's NOT Penn Relays Director Dave Johnson. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: The world's next great miler

In a message dated 7/15/02 9:28:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For those keeping score, Chirchir -- who has also run 3:33 this year -- is about nine months younger than Alan Webb. Any word on when he will leave university and return to his preparatory school coach? Jim Gerweck Running

Re: t-and-f: NYC's plans for Olympic track field

Pretty cool, and maybe even feasible (the total package). But a triathlon within Central Park, w/ the swimming leg in the Reservoir? I guess it beats dodging the refrigerators in the Harlem River. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Webb going pro

Although Webb's on a slightly higher level: Can you say Liz Mueller? Foot Locker champ went to several colleges, kept leaving because she didn't like the coaches, wound up someplace where the coach allowed her to pick her own races and set her own training schedule. She is now a boxer,

t-and-f: Nova Ovals (was: Former Pitt track coach issues blister)

In a message dated 6/15/02 9:28:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: he may have been hampered by the fact that the school's track was torn down two years ago and as nearly as I can tell, there are no plans to build a new one. That never seemed to bother Jumbo Elliott at Villanova. In fact, one

Re: t-and-f: Former Pitt track coach issues blistering statement af ter firing

In a message dated 6/14/02 2:08:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: he may have been hampered by the fact that the school's track was torn down two years ago and as nearly as I can tell, there are no plans to build a new one. That never seemed to bother Jumbo Elliott at Villanova. In fact, one

Re: t-and-f: Montana State Meet results

In a message dated 5/30/02 9:13:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The National rules are in effect IF THERE ARE NO STATE RULES THAT SUPERCEDE THE NATIONAL RULES. That is interesting. Back in the 80s when the sport switched from Imperial to metric, CT was among the intelligent ones that ran

Re: t-and-f: Montana State Meet results

In a message dated 5/30/02 4:29:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for national rules (someone else's message here), there are still several states that run non-standard events (eg VT running 3k/1500m) and even additional events (Maine racewalk). And RI has the hammer. Jeez, VT RI run

Re: t-and-f: hs uniforms

I generally work as clerk or starter at indoor meets in CT, and I can't begin to tell you how many minutes I wasted and how much time was added to meets by making kids remove necklaces, bracelets, earrings and other assorted piercings (and half the time the boys had more than the girls). At

t-and-f: Why the falsies?

I'd tend to agree with Walt - the only time you see non-integral false starts is on live broadcasrs, i.e. adidas meet last week. Which brings up the question (at least for that meet): they showed several (my recollection is at least 3) FS in the 100, and as a result didn't have time to show

Re: t-and-f: Re: [TheRoadsScholar] Re: 10 k management

True enough. GPS and measuring down the middle of the road are unacceptable for measurement. Anyone interested in the USATF procedure and standards for course certification can access the online manual on the Road Running Technical Council web site www.rrtc.net Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk

I hear Jon Drummond is going to claim he was bringing in that stash to add to the mix, making a batch of Nieman Marcus/Alice B. Toklas cookies. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Fw: recipe, cakey lumps of tastless gunk

In a message dated 5/2/02 7:37:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it's NOT in jeapardy, what were those officials doing, just standing around? Why, witnessing, what else? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Am I getting to old to coach? New rules in HS

In a message dated 3/6/02 2:46:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the discussion turned to what to do with navel rings under uniforms According to the NHSF Case Book, they are legal, since they are not normally visible (the case was about a hypothetical LJer whose singlet rose while in

Re: t-and-f: USATF Release: Teter breaks AR; Jacobs wins again at Indoor Nationals

In a message dated 3/2/02 6:40:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday, BG broke the national record for the girls 4x800m relay. I wonder if the National HS Federation will recognize this mark, since it was set in an open meet (albeit in a HS-only section). Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Easterns

The day before the meet, the ADs of CT high school received a directive from the CIAC not to allow their athletes to attend the Eastern meet, as it had not been sanctioned by the National Federation. Did this prevent any other states from attending? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: EPO ad during the Olympics

In a message dated 2/22/02 10:51:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone notice the add for EPO during tonight Olympic coverage? It was for a product called Epocrit for anemic patients under chemo therapy. It was not during cross-country coverage but during the 4 man bobsleigh. Well that's

t-and-f: Checkered past?

Today's stories on the women's bobsled team(s) made reference to Gea Johnson as a former track athlete with a checkered past. Can anyone elucidate on that? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: What track can learn from Winter Games

In a message dated 2/14/02 12:19:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've also always been partial to the javelin relay - perhaps we could judge the aim of the first thrower? Sorry, Ed, the jav relay is a dying event ;-) Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: What track can learn from Winter Games

Watching the short track speed skating 5K relay last night, I concluded that TF has nothing to compare to that event. Speed, tactics, lots of exchanges, and, as evidenced last night, the chance of crashes and ensuing mayhem/carnage. Maybe TF needs a 5x20x100m relay event. Teams of 5 keep

Re: t-and-f: the value of numbers (was: Human Hydroplane

In a message dated 2/6/02 8:25:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The mile at the USATF meet (and thus the mile at virtually all U.S. meets) would be a good start. And while we're at it, at all HS meets in the country too (instead of the bastard 1600). Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Mad. Sq. Garden Sprints Downhill?

In a message dated 2/4/02 7:37:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They play ice hockey there. Based on the Rangers' record, I think they play uphill 2 out of the 3 periods each game. Jim Gerweck Running Times

t-and-f: Looking a gift horse (was USATF Advertising idea...)

I've heard that Omega/Swatch timing offered to PAY $25,000 to USATF to time the indoor nationals at the Armory in March. Apparently someone at USATF felt that figure wasn't high enough, turned them down, and now someone else is doing the timing, and - get this - USATF is PAYING for it. If

t-and-f: Pre-league records

OK, here's a question for the stat/record mavens: Should a mark set by someone from a league member school prior to the formal organization of the league be considered the league record? My gut feeling is no, therefore giving rise to the possibility that a school record could be better than

Re: t-and-f: Pre-league records

In a message dated 1/9/02 6:29:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But at any given point in time, it is possible to define what schools are in the league, so if you are going to have league-wide records, my opinion is that they can only be valid when done by an athlete at a school that is in the

Re: t-and-f: Sports code of conduct

In a message dated 1/9/02 2:40:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does this have meaning when it comes to race strategy?- i.e. always go for a PR, or at least the absolute best time that you could possibly run on that day, versus going out slow in a VIM (Very-Important-Meet) because you know you

Re: t-and-f: Acuff in running for World's Sexiest Athlete

In a message dated 1/4/02 9:17:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only trackster listed is Amy Acuff. Marion Jones Grigoreyeva are also listed.

Re: t-and-f: chip timing at European Cross-Country Chamionships

In a message dated 12/31/01 12:35:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can this chip timing record team standing at every 5 km split and report those standing to a press room and TV in real time? Tom, I'm pretty sure this technology exists right now. Those of us stuck in the press room watching

Re: t-and-f: chip timing at European Cross-Country Chamionships

In a message dated 12/31/01 4:39:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A runner could have his torso cross first but have the transponder on his back leg and lose several places. I think S.O.P. in transponder timed Xc races is to have the competitors where a chip on EACH shoe, to lessen (though

Re: t-and-f: RE: XC circuits

In a message dated 12/19/01 3:22:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First encourage a double-loop course, but to eliminate the even split issue, have a start and finish spur so that the loop is an odd distance. You coudl even have multiple loops that came by the start/finish at several points

t-and-f: Bruce Dern (was Famous people in TF)

In a message dated 12/16/01 8:35:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Dern went to college at Penn and may have competed on the track team but it was before my time. He did in fact compete and was a good half miler, but quit the team his jr. year in a dispute w/ the coach (Ken Doherty? - I

Re: t-and-f: My miserable Bruce Dern Moment

In a message dated 12/17/01 3:16:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was Rockland California in 1970 while my roomate Bob Deines was winning the National 50 miler that I, after dropping out at 30 miles leaned against a car with Bruce Dern who had also dropped out, and grumbled. I think that

Re: t-and-f: ChampionChip Timing systems (was European Cross Coun try Champs)

In a message dated 12/17/01 3:58:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hell, the last split you get is 1.1 to 1.2 miles from the finish! Not if the organizers are smart, and give metric splits for metric distance races. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: jagger at the olympics other famous people

In a message dated 12/14/01 12:44:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jagger was at the 84 opening ceremonies in LA. He often logs mileage in preparations for his gyrations during a tour - he's been observed on the roads of SW CT when he stays at Keith Richards' house in Weston (which borders

t-and-f: OT Marathon - 2 Time Qualifier's 2 Cents

Rather than get into the discussion, I will verify that yes the Trials were in Buffalo in 84, there was no prize money, and yes it was warm and humid (which is probably why I beat the altitude trained guys). Prize money would have been nice, but representing my country was more important. In 88

Re: t-and-f: Re: Hosting 2004 Olympic Marathon Trials

In a message dated 12/4/01 7:27:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bad news is that the IAAF may stiffen the A and B qualifying standards in keeping with their current direction of reducing the size of Olympic fields. If there's one event that can handle increased fields, w/o causing

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker South - why so fast?

In a message dated 11/27/01 2:12:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From one year to the next who can remember exactly how to mark the course? Tom's right. That's why XC course records should be taken w/ a grain of salt. Even at place like Van Cortlandt Park, where the trails themselves are

t-and-f: NCAA XC TV?

Anyone know of any coverage, w/ satellite coordinates if possible? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Chip timing in the Times.

In a message dated 11/1/01 5:22:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we changed the definition of the finish to count only the foot with the chip on it, you might get some very strange (and possibly dangerous) behavior by runners seeking an edge at the finish of a close race. Not just that,

t-and-f: Hash House runners cause Anthrax panic in CT

see story at http://www.newstimes.com/cgi-bin/dbs.cgi?db=newsview_records=1id=16459 pretty ridiculous over-reaction, IMHO Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: 9/11 causes route change

The Detroit Free Press Marathon has been similarly impacted, and will not run through the tunnel to Canada this year. A new course, completely in the Motor City, has been designed. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Barry's pedigree

In a message dated 10/9/01 11:52:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the old days farming skimmed away many of the better athletes. I recall hearing an interview w/ Bob Feller in which he said he developed his basic core strength hefting hay bales all day as a youth. He said today's athletes

Re: t-and-f: chump change for Takahashi

In a message dated 10/1/01 11:54:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She has seven at the last count, yielding, according to one insider, an average of $500,000 each. And don't forget the comic strip fees, and possible film rights (I can see it now - Wind Runner vs. Pokemon) Jim Gerweck

Re: t-and-f: XC Results - Codfish Bowl (Div II/III) - Franklin Pk - Boston

What the HECK is Northern Colorado doing at the Codfish Bowl in MA? Do they even know what codfish are out in Greeley? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Khannouchi makes plea for tolerance and understanding

In a message dated 9/21/01 10:41:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: acknowledged by SI as America's most accomplished Muslim athlete, I think Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or Muhammad Ali might take issue w/ that statement, unless it means active athletes. Jim Gerweck Running Times

t-and-f: Radcliffe sets Women's Road 5K WR

Paula Radcliffe ran 14:57 for an all-women's 5K in London today (2 Sept). Tegla Loroupe was second in 15:25, Derata Tula third in 15:35. 20,000+ women ran. The course was certified by Hugh Jones, who observed from the lead truck and sent me this report. He noted that for the last half mile the

Re: t-and-f: Dragila's post-Edmonton schedule

In a message dated 8/30/01 3:27:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Given that Zurich and Brussels had only men's vaults, there probably wasn't much reason to come back to Europe after Edmonton. Plus, those two Euro burbs might seem positively dull and drab after the hustle and bustle of

Re: t-and-f: Haile Gebrselassie makes 1/2 marathon debug

In a message dated 8/29/01 5:56:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it was in Addis Adaba (altitude 7900ft) it becomes a truly AWESOME time. Wait - didn't we just conclude that altitude's effect on distance times is only pyschological? ;-) (Geb must have a hell of a psyche). Jim Gerweck

t-and-f: Trackopalypse Now Redux (was Jabe's exact quote)

Just saw the restored version of Apocaplypse Now, first time on a big screen in probably 2 decades - wow (though the restored portions really didn't do much for me, or the film, IMO). There is no way Dennis Hopper is Gabe Jennings in an earlier incarnation. He makes too much sense. Jim

Re: t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend?

In a message dated 8/25/01 9:18:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me suggest that if the reason for running is to make money, DNF often makes sense, but if the reason is to prove how tough you are, DNF is failure. I remember some great runner back in the 70s saying I NEVER drop out of a

Re: t-and-f: Van Damme 200 (results)

In a message dated 8/24/01 4:06:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't he J.J. Johnson who ran in the heats on the 4 x 100 in Edmonton? I think you're confusing him with Jack Johnson, the heavyweight champ played by James Earl Jones. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: mystery high jump?

In a message dated 8/23/01 12:37:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: best we can find anywhere is only 2.21 (he made 2.20 in Edmonton), and his best from last year was 2.30. Maybe the official misread the metric tape and was off by 0.1m ;-) Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: RE: something else to chew on

IMHO, the last good looking uniforms the USA had were the '72 OG. Of late, it seems Nike's uniform style philosophy seems to be do less with more. Very busy, not too functional or aesthetic. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: party time!

In a message dated 8/21/01 2:20:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the selection of Tennessee as the nation's No. 1 party school? (when are the nationals in Knoxville again?) Don't know, but I though UT would never claim that ranking after Doug Brown left for Florida. Jim Gerweck Running Times

t-and-f: Now what's she saving for?

In Edmonton, Suzy F-H said she was saving herself for Zurich. Tonight, she (as well as Regina Jacobs) were no-shows. What's she saving herself for now? Jim Gerweck Running Times

t-and-f: Could THIS be Jabe talking too?

Hey, man, you don't talk to the Colonel. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll, uh, well, you'll say hello to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you, and he won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and

t-and-f: Trackopalypse Now (was Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure???)

I dunno, was it just me, or did anyone else think Jabe's interview seemed eerily like Dennis Hopper's character in Apocalypse Now? (The director's cut has been released to the theaters if you want to check it out). Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Post Edmonton thoughts

In a message dated 8/14/01 5:06:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The doubling of the Worlds and the concomitant rise of Goodwill as a big-bucks meet meant that every year's nationals was a must-go destination for the nation's top athletes, instead of just half the years. So the USATF tail

t-and-f: ANOTHER 11th!

In a message dated 8/12/01 12:53:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like Goucher DID finish 11th after all. The curse strikes back! Oleg. And McMullen in the 1500. I think I am going out and buy some PowerBall tickets with lots of elevens in the numbers (and the jackpot is $110 million -

Re: t-and-f: Post Edmonton thoughts

In a message dated 8/13/01 5:05:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Was a hard meet to get up for for some reason .. Didn't seem to have the usual electricity associated with the Worlds I think the WCs have lost luster ever since the IAAF went for the money and doubled the frequency of the

Re: t-and-f: 200 photofinish

In a message dated 8/10/01 10:36:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He also admitted that he was wrong about that You have to realize that it's the ATHLETES who are wrong, NEVER the on-air talent. They can't help it if people finish in the wrong places Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Greene unhappy at new start ruling

In a message dated 8/1/01 10:47:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The IAAF and its technical committee yesterday decided that in races up to 400 metres one false start will be allowed, but that any athlete subsequently false starting will be disqualified immediately. While I suppose this is an

Re: t-and-f: USATF Release: Team USA roster for World Championships announced

In a message dated 7/25/01 9:16:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is Chris Clark shown on the marathon team when she has already announce that she'll bypass Edmonton for New York. From talking to Dave Morris at Bix, didn't sound like he's even running a fall marathon - just pacemaking at

Re: t-and-f: USATF Release: Team USA roster for World Championships announced

In a message dated 7/25/01 11:16:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, does anyone know if she's running? Not running, her withdrawal was announced the same time as that of either Clifton or Kim Pawelek (boy, they're not exactly knocking each other over to run in the WC marathon when there's

Re: t-and-f: Jenny Adams

Saw her post race interview after the Paris meet - what a breath of fresh air! Seems like she's still new enough to the upper reaches of the sport to be excited about what she's doing, and that comes through vividly. Not the jaded, it's just my job atitude exhibited by many of the sport's

Re: t-and-f: Boilermaker Results anyone??

In a message dated 7/8/01 11:42:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Their website doesnt have them listed yet. What would you expect? Everyone's still at the brewery, pounding down free suds. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: On several things

In a message dated 7/6/01 10:56:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the 800m medley, with legs of 100, 100, 200, and 400, or the English equivalents. That was the third relay on the CT HS order of events, for girls only, up until the mid-80s. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Michael Johnson's last race

In a message dated 7/3/01 9:48:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no officiell record reqognized for this relay in Sweden. Like they don't have French fries in France or Russian dressing in Russia. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Competing at NATS- was a huge loss to the sport

In a message dated 6/27/01 3:45:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you imagine the best players not showing up for the NBA or MLB All-Star Games Or could you imagine Cal Ripken announcing his retirement mid-season, and then not playing another game (actually I think another player, not

Re: t-and-f: 2002 USATF

In a message dated 6/25/01 12:31:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it hasn't been awarded yet, but the buzz is that it (and '03) will go to STanford. Yeah, cut down on travel costs for a third of the entrants. (As long as Gabe doesn't bring his Bongo Boys) Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: KRUMMENACKER IN 1500 @ WC??

Hey Fanelli, never mind all the what-ifs - where's the important stuff - HOOTIE III results? What happened, someone spill a few Terminators on them while they were being compiled? Some kind of race director you are! Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: mile improvement since high school

How about Karl Paranya (Haverford sub 4, HS 4:20-ish) Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Arrogant officials and decisions...

In a message dated 6/8/01 11:56:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. Appropriate training for officials, not just meeting to look at old films or discuss how things used to be. Is track the only sport where an official can be certified w/o ever having seen, much less worked, a meet? To pass

Re: t-and-f: times on NC state records

In a message dated 6/9/01 5:37:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The timing was done by a pretty reliable auto-timer, who has no idea how it happened It's possible that the auto-timer didn't start on the gun's sound, and the operator started the timing device by hand, which, due to the

t-and-f: CT Open (was NJ All-Group meet)

In a message dated 6/7/01 11:27:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There was nothing bad about what Danny Johnson of Rahway did in the 100M, only that this race and this race was one of only four in the meet to have a illegally-high wind behind it--2.2---and thus his 10.30 clocking will not stand

Re: t-and-f: HS PV endangered

How many of these rules are really enforced, though? Most if not all the meets I have been at this season, there was no pad around the collar of the vault box, no padding around the standard bases, sometimes no top pad, etc. And as for the weight certification, that is a joke too. Most of the

Re: t-and-f: Marion Jones to divorce CJ

In a message dated 6/5/01 3:55:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First Tom and Nicole and now Marion and CJ? what next, the National Inquirer will reveal it's got Gay Tapes of CJ? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: NCAA indicator boards

Can you imagine going to any baseball game, from your local Little League to Yankee Stadium, and having the scoreboard displays balls, strikes, outs, hits errors, but not runs? That's kind of the situation that exists in track. I for one was stunningly impressed by the FinishLynx scoreboards

t-and-f: Webb's choices/non-choices

In a message dated 5/30/01 11:17:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He didn't pick his high school coach. reminds me of the answer someone gave when asked what was the most important thing someone should do to become a great runner: Choose your parents carefully Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Webb broke TWO high school records

In a message dated 5/27/01 9:50:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If Webb was only running 1500, he would have began his kick earlier. So it makes more sense to SUBTRACT the standard 16.4 or so from his 3:53.43, leaving him with something like a 3:37 flat as an equivalent 1500. That doesn't

Re: t-and-f: I'm out......

In a message dated 5/28/01 4:12:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: considering I can't walk with out a cane right now. Don't have my rule book in front of me right now - is that considered lifting or creeping? Seriously, bad luck Mike and hope you make a speedy recovery, in time for Nats.

Re: t-and-f: New rules to challenge athletes at adidas Oregon

In a message dated 5/24/01 6:53:47 PM, LTricard writes: WHEREAS sprinters/hurdlers are the only athletes in all of track and field prevented from competing before their event essentially begins Huh? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: New rules to challenge athletes at adidas Oregon

thinking about the 4 jumps/throws vs 3 3. After more than 3 weeks of no rain, the skies finallylet loose here Monday, and since then CT has resembled Seattle in terms of weather, forcing 2 postponements of local HS track championships, finally painting organizers into a corner where the boys

Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

In a message dated 5/17/01 4:57:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is the sport of athletics so pure that only the perfect may compete? Why don't we do like they did in that Kurt Vonnegut book (Cat's Cradle?) and outfit everyone w/ handicapping devices to bring them DOWN to the lowest ability

Re: t-and-f: Donohue: 4:47.61 at Princeton

In a message dated 5/12/01 9:44:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She evidently skipped today's Camden County meet in her quest for a state HS record in the event. NJ must be enlightened - in CT they wouldn't accept a mark if it wasn't run in a state HS meet. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Promotion of nationals on the backs of the stars...

In a message dated 5/10/01 10:03:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why wouldn't MJ be running our National Championships if he is so interested in promoting our sport? Touche! Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Texas High School state meet...wow...39.95!

In a message dated 5/12/01 12:32:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ychilindria Spears This definitely makes the All-Name team. I'd like to see Bob H, Scott D or Garry H wrap their vocal chords around that one. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: shirts or skins? - what's best for training in hot weather?

In a message dated 5/4/01 1:23:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: any fabric also blocks the wind and airflow that is generated by running. Having test-worn and reviewed the Stand Off singlet Nike developed for Sydney, I would say it may be one piece of clothing that is as cool as no shirt,

Re: t-and-f: Mt. Sac

In a message dated 4/27/01 3:30:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PS Come to think of it I demand that they retroactively give watches to this year's event winners. Weldon you could have just about walked and got a watch at Penn this year - the OD 10K was small and slow. I remember back in

t-and-f: Ritz 2nd at Penn

From Pennathletics.com Penn Relays Results Event 164, Friday, 7:40 pm MOD 5,000m Run 1 13:47.64 Anthony Famiglietti adidas 2 13:51.69 Dathan Ritzenheim North Kent RC 3 13:53.23 Peter Sherry New York AC

Re: t-and-f: Ritzenhein going for 5000 record on Friday

In a message dated 4/24/01 1:09:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good luck to Ritz and to listmember Dan Wilson Dan, don't give the kid any stripper URLs, at least not til after he runs, OK? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Kurt Steiner?

In a message dated 4/8/01 10:00:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: who can forget that thick Hungarian(?) accent as he'd say, "Give to me your attention, please". Or at numerous NYC Marathons: "If you can hear my voice, you can break 3 hours." I think Kurt achieved his greatest athletic

t-and-f: Fwd: Clayton's WBs

Gerweck Running Times JimRTimes Apr 07, 2001 Dear Jim: Here's what's appeared in MNF, if you want to pass it on. Regards, Malcolm Date: 99-12-10 23:00:28 EST MNF #0427 10Dec99 Historical

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