Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-21 Thread Jason Michael Blank
P.F.Talbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this suspicion due to various governing bodies catching people from time to time? When was the last time anyone really thought about drug use in major sports? It's certainly higher than in track and field but people don't seem to care. Mark

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread Randall Northam
on 20/8/01 10:01 AM, Prof. Uri Goldbourt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A careful look at Yegorva's achievement last year will demonstarte that her progress was less enormous than many an athlete in the past, who still bask in glory - Florence Griffith-Joyner a988 amazing breakthrough first and

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! I quite frankly don't understand what is the fuss about all this drug/non-drug business. In a society where everyone is on drugs, from recreational purposes, medical purposes and even to get through the stresses of every day life, I don't see any moral to ask these athletes to behave as if

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
You say Yegerova was demonised and singled out among most likely a non-negligible number of athletes. I assume you mean that a lot of athletes take EPO or some drugs. Yegerova is demonised because at the World Championships she was the only one that the charge can be levelled at with

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread Oleg Shpyrko
Perhaps I am as one-eyed as Uri, but I think he has made a very valid point. Merlene Ottey went on to compete in Sydney after testing positive for nandrolone, but then being reintstated by IAAF due to technical errors. The only controversy was whether or not she should be allowed to run the

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:36:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Ed Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't get me wrong - if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and walks like a duck, most of us (myself included) will believe that it is. The urine test is not pretty

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
And please spare me the effects of a lifetime of drug taking. Many drugs help us and nobody is thinking twice about taking them when they need. I think 3 or 4 times before I take ANY drug, including aspirin or cold medicine. I know many other people who feel the same way. There is quite a

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Just so we understand each other Miguel. You are trying to tell us to let society dictate morality, fairness, and righteousness. That simply is irresponsible, and a very immature way to conduct yourself. It is the Well everyone else was doing it! attitude, that has cost more than a

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread lehane
Miguel Gonçalves wrote: but in a sport where new training methods, new shoes, new materials, new surfaces are quickly absorbed why not the new pharmacological innovations!? Why do we distrust so much science and all the sudden we want everyone to be clean! Many of the perfromancing enhancing

RE: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
On that note, let me ask some questions that I have been asking myself regarding the drug situation in track and field .. Why are we testing ?? A: Too protect people from themselves and too make the sport fair for those who don't want to resort to drug use ... so they can theoretically

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread P.F.Talbot
On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, lehane wrote: Many of the perfromancing enhancing pharmacological innovations have unacceptable health risks. Arguably, so does competing clean at an elite level. It isn't healthy to break bones or tear muscles and ligaments. It isn't healthy to neglact friends and

RE: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread P.F.Talbot
I am in no way in favor of drug use .. However, I am definitely against those things which hurt the sport .. A: Want to stop things from hurting the sport? Start with the athletes who cheat. Stop them from cheating ... and no more black eye for the sport. If it is difficult, that doesn't

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

2001-08-20 Thread Conway
Why are we testing ?? A: Too protect people from themselves and too make the sport fair for those who don't want to resort to drug use ... so they can theoretically compete on the oh-so-frequently-mentioned level playing field. How does one define this level plaing field?? See original