RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure???
I watched the Gabe interview as well and I don't remember some of the things that you describe. Although I did watch the ABC interview and perhaps he gave another to CBC perhaps? Specifically I don't recall him saying that he owned El G, or of him wiping the track of all of them in 3 years. Lastly, I don't remember any references to his SAT or his math major and inability to count to 10. It may have been a different interview than the one he gave on ABC right after the race. Jeff -Original Message- From: Geoff Pietsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure??? I watched this live so I don't have it on tape. Is the quote below accurate? I don't recall it the way it is printed here. Yes, Gabe did say he looked in El G's eyes, and, as I recall, he made it clear he was no longer intimidated, but I do NOT recall him saying he owned El G or anyone else. And I can't imagine not picking up on such a remark. I also do not recall any mention of his SAT scores, and the other stuff about his academic worries seems very different than what I remember. Does anyone have it on tape to verify? As for Gabe's dropping out because he was undertrained, I recall Bikila's winning gold and setting a world record in the marathon (not something you want to be undertrained for) 6 weeks after having his appendix removed (you think he missed a little training time there perhaps?) and didn't Wottle miss a lot of training due to injury before his 800 gold in '72? Geoff From: Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:48:19 -0400 If he knew he was out of shape, why didn't he pass it over to Berryhill who has been racing fairly well this summer? Instead he goes there unprepared and embarasses us both on and off the track. No slight to good ol Jabe... but he himself admitted he was not in shape. If I was Brian, I would be livid. USATF should play more a role in the athlete's lives and training and should never have let Jabe go if he was not ready to compete. Coachy Vinny gets a big thumbs down as well. M You saw me get everything out of myself that I had out there. If you knew my training, you'd laugh. It's been under 20 miles a week. But it's a thrill to compete on this big stage. This was so much more encouraging than the Olympics. I was not scared. I looked El Guerrouj in the eyes, and I was not scared. I own him. I own all these guys. Give me two years and I'll be wiping them all up off the track. I have a vision of winning at Athens in three years, and the vision starts with conquering all my fears. It's all about fear. I've been fighting that at Stanford. I got into academic trouble this year. I've been fighting fears about my SAT scores and being at Stanford and being a math major. I mean, I can't count to 10...well, maybe I can, but square root of two, what do I know? I've been studying my ass off, but I need more help with my classes than I do with my races. I've got two finals when I get back from here. I haven't been getting any sleep. - Jabe _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure???
I got that quote driectly from the runnersworld.com website I believe. M From: Hanks, Jeffrey S [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure??? Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:02:37 -0700 I watched the Gabe interview as well and I don't remember some of the things that you describe. Although I did watch the ABC interview and perhaps he gave another to CBC perhaps? Specifically I don't recall him saying that he owned El G, or of him wiping the track of all of them in 3 years. Lastly, I don't remember any references to his SAT or his math major and inability to count to 10. It may have been a different interview than the one he gave on ABC right after the race. Jeff -Original Message- From: Geoff Pietsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure??? I watched this live so I don't have it on tape. Is the quote below accurate? I don't recall it the way it is printed here. Yes, Gabe did say he looked in El G's eyes, and, as I recall, he made it clear he was no longer intimidated, but I do NOT recall him saying he owned El G or anyone else. And I can't imagine not picking up on such a remark. I also do not recall any mention of his SAT scores, and the other stuff about his academic worries seems very different than what I remember. Does anyone have it on tape to verify? As for Gabe's dropping out because he was undertrained, I recall Bikila's winning gold and setting a world record in the marathon (not something you want to be undertrained for) 6 weeks after having his appendix removed (you think he missed a little training time there perhaps?) and didn't Wottle miss a lot of training due to injury before his 800 gold in '72? Geoff From: Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:48:19 -0400 If he knew he was out of shape, why didn't he pass it over to Berryhill who has been racing fairly well this summer? Instead he goes there unprepared and embarasses us both on and off the track. No slight to good ol Jabe... but he himself admitted he was not in shape. If I was Brian, I would be livid. USATF should play more a role in the athlete's lives and training and should never have let Jabe go if he was not ready to compete. Coachy Vinny gets a big thumbs down as well. M You saw me get everything out of myself that I had out there. If you knew my training, you'd laugh. It's been under 20 miles a week. But it's a thrill to compete on this big stage. This was so much more encouraging than the Olympics. I was not scared. I looked El Guerrouj in the eyes, and I was not scared. I own him. I own all these guys. Give me two years and I'll be wiping them all up off the track. I have a vision of winning at Athens in three years, and the vision starts with conquering all my fears. It's all about fear. I've been fighting that at Stanford. I got into academic trouble this year. I've been fighting fears about my SAT scores and being at Stanford and being a math major. I mean, I can't count to 10...well, maybe I can, but square root of two, what do I know? I've been studying my ass off, but I need more help with my classes than I do with my races. I've got two finals when I get back from here. I haven't been getting any sleep. - Jabe _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure???
It sounds like he gave that interview specifically to RunnersWorld. He gave another interview that I saw on ABC that included a few other choice bits (and no mention of the SAT or of wiping the field in Athens). I have it on tape, so maybe I'll go through it tonight and see if I can't type up the interview and re-post it here in the morning. Jeff -Original Message- From: Jason Michael Blank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:52 PM To: t-and-f Subject: RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure??? Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:12:33 -0400 From: Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure??? I got that quote driectly from the runnersworld.com website I believe. M You're right. Here it is again, copied and pasted from http://www.runnersworld.com/edmonton01/home.html What an idiot. Gabe Jennings, Heat 2: You saw me get everything out of myself that I had out there. If you knew my training, you'd laugh. It's been under 20 miles a week. But it's a thrill to compete on this big stage. This was so much more encouraging than the Olympics. I was not scared. I looked El Guerrouj in the eyes, and I was not scared. I own him. I own all these guys. Give me two years and I'll be wiping them all up off the track. I have a vision of winning at Athens in three years, and the vision starts with conquering all my fears. It's all about fear. I've been fighting that at Stanford. I got into academic trouble this year. I've been fighting fears about my SAT scores and being at Stanford and being a math major. I mean, I can't count to 10...well, maybe I can, but square root of two, what do I know? I've been studying my ass off, but I need more help with my classes than I do with my races. I've got two finals when I get back from here. I haven't been getting any sleep. ___ Jason BlankHopkins Marine Station Enloe HS '92, Duke '96, Stanford ?? Oceanview Boulevard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pacific Grove, CA 93950 He is the Emperor. Ethiopia is a country racked by Aids, famine and war and Gebrselassie is their one true success story. He travels the country, giving out and receiving respect wherever he goes. -- Jos Hermens, on Haile Gebrselassie, Olympic champion at 1m ___
RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure???
I watched the Gabe interview as well and I don't remember some of the things that you describe. Although I did watch the ABC interview and perhaps he gave another to CBC perhaps? Actually Gabe is a linguistic treasure - he speaks pure unadulterated Incoherent Hippie circa 1968, a dialect that has not been heard since its last native speaker died of a drug overdose about 25 years ago. Imagine what it would mean to Classicists and other scholars of the Latin language if Cicero himself suddenly appeared in in their midst. That's what has now happened to people who study the culture of the 1960s. Linguists, historians, and other scholars of that period should be lined up outside Gabe's dorm room to record his speech, ask him questions, and request his help in translating baffling Hippie quotes from the past. An opportunity is being missed here. Kurt Bray _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... Are you sure???
Kurt, clearly you've never been to Eugene, which is living in a time-warp. malmo Actually Gabe is a linguistic treasure - he speaks pure unadulterated Incoherent Hippie circa 1968, a dialect that has not been heard since its last native speaker died of a drug overdose about 25 years ago. Imagine what it would mean to Classicists and other scholars of the Latin language if Cicero himself suddenly appeared in in their midst. That's what has now happened to people who study the culture of the 1960s. Linguists, historians, and other scholars of that period should be lined up outside Gabe's dorm room to record his speech, ask him questions, and request his help in translating baffling Hippie quotes from the past. An opportunity is being missed here. Kurt Bray _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote...
If he knew he was out of shape, why didn't he pass it over to Berryhill who has been racing fairly well this summer? Instead he goes there unprepared and embarasses us both on and off the track. No slight to good ol Jabe... but he himself admitted he was not in shape. If I was Brian, I would be livid. USATF should play more a role in the athlete's lives and training and should never have let Jabe go if he was not ready to compete. Coachy Vinny gets a big thumbs down as well. M You saw me get everything out of myself that I had out there. If you knew my training, you'd laugh. It's been under 20 miles a week. But it's a thrill to compete on this big stage. This was so much more encouraging than the Olympics. I was not scared. I looked El Guerrouj in the eyes, and I was not scared. I own him. I own all these guys. Give me two years and I'll be wiping them all up off the track. I have a vision of winning at Athens in three years, and the vision starts with conquering all my fears. It's all about fear. I've been fighting that at Stanford. I got into academic trouble this year. I've been fighting fears about my SAT scores and being at Stanford and being a math major. I mean, I can't count to 10...well, maybe I can, but square root of two, what do I know? I've been studying my ass off, but I need more help with my classes than I do with my races. I've got two finals when I get back from here. I haven't been getting any sleep. - Jabe _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote...
He started as a music major who had never sang or played any musical instruments. Now he has switched to math, which seems an odd choice to the outside observer (It's difficult, objective and unforgiving). He seems like someone who should NOT be a math major, but I have to say, that is NOT my call. From his quote about Stanford and SAT scores (I've been fighting fears about my SAT scores and being at Stanford and being a math major.), it sounds like he feels like the dunce among geniuses. It also looks like Gabe is taking summer classes to catch up on required number of completed credits. It also sounds like he is having trouble with his choice of major. Considering that he had a spotty Spring, indeed why didn't he give his spot to Berryhill? if he has been staying up late, training lightly, etc. He ought to have concentrated on summer classes, getting in shape for XC (he has eligibility, no?), and given his WC spot to Berryhill, or anyone else fit to take it. And you are right ... if he didn't want to give it to an alternate, his coach should have encouraged him to. /Brian McEwen -Original Message- From: Michael Contopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 2:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote... If he knew he was out of shape, why didn't he pass it over to Berryhill who has been racing fairly well this summer? Instead he goes there unprepared and embarasses us both on and off the track. No slight to good ol Jabe... but he himself admitted he was not in shape. If I was Brian, I would be livid. USATF should play more a role in the athlete's lives and training and should never have let Jabe go if he was not ready to compete. Coachy Vinny gets a big thumbs down as well. M You saw me get everything out of myself that I had out there. If you knew my training, you'd laugh. It's been under 20 miles a week. But it's a thrill to compete on this big stage. This was so much more encouraging than the Olympics. I was not scared. I looked El Guerrouj in the eyes, and I was not scared. I own him. I own all these guys. Give me two years and I'll be wiping them all up off the track. I have a vision of winning at Athens in three years, and the vision starts with conquering all my fears. It's all about fear. I've been fighting that at Stanford. I got into academic trouble this year. I've been fighting fears about my SAT scores and being at Stanford and being a math major. I mean, I can't count to 10...well, maybe I can, but square root of two, what do I know? I've been studying my ass off, but I need more help with my classes than I do with my races. I've got two finals when I get back from here. I haven't been getting any sleep. - Jabe _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
