Re: t-and-f: (The real) TV mystery

2003-08-28 Thread Mike Prizy
The Big TV Mystery as I see it (((NOT))) was why even ESPN2's on-screen cable listing here in Chicago states track and field 9-11 p.m., but instead there is baseball on. The WCs were on 7-9 p.m. I sat down at 8:58 p.m. to see a near empty stadium and hear the closing comments. Baseball NOT berry

Re: t-and-f: (The real) TV mystery

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Shea
T&F was shown from 8-10 here in Eastern TZ. Schedule, like Mike's, had baseball first and then T&F. Steve S. - Original Message - From: Mike Prizy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ed Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: track net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:28 PM Subject: Re:

Re: t-and-f: TV nystery

2003-08-28 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 8/27/03 8:22:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: <> Sorry to debunk your theory, Ed, but the same people w

t-and-f: Great American XCFestival NIKE Race of Champions Preview capsules and interviews

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Re: t-and-f: TV nystery

Walt, I think the coverage is just fine. But, who is going to be watching if ESPN/ESPN2/ABC can't put the show on during the advertised time slot? >The Big TV Mystery as I see it (((NOT))) was why even ESPN2's on-screen cable listing here in Chicago states track and field 9-11 p.m., but instea

RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Sorry to pile on at the end of a discussion many are surely tired of (and for the sake of those of us on digest mode: PLEASE delete any portions of old messages that aren't directly relevant to your reply). But there are several things along this thread that I wanted to comment on: 1) First -

Re: t-and-f: TV nystery

Even though it was delayed, I was impressed with the coverage of the Steeple. I can't remember the last time I saw network coverage of a steeplechase shown in its entirety - no commercials, no cut-away to other events and come back for the last lap, just >8 minutes of top class competition. W

RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Four quality workouts in a row week after week WILL destroy your body and WILL overtrain you. In the ONE Geb week no mention is made of what kind of "sprint work" he is doing on that day. Hell, anyone can do 10x200 near all out with 200 meter recoveries at the end of an easy run everyday but I

RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

The easiest workouts I have ever done have been longer intervals (most of the time those are done near LT) The hardest workouts I have ever done are hill repeats and sprint workouts (150s, 200s, 300s). The latter leave me sore, with an oxygen debt headache, and wiped out for 2 days. If you ca

RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

My take is that it's not the back to back to back quality days that do people in. What does people in is skipping the phases prior to that which would the endurance and strength phases which prepare you to reap the benefits of quality. At some point, you have to do the quality work. Another

Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Perhaps it's how one defines quality workouts, but I know the group at the FILA center was doing this a couple years ago: -1 day with 25-40x1:00 on/1:00 off, with the "on" minutes at 3K-5K race pace and the off minutes a notch or two faster thaneasy distance. -1 day with 10-15km of long intervals

RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Mike, your last paragraph raises some good points. The other day, one of my "keg party" buddies from High School asked me: "Schiefer, how in the hell did you go from 4:20 in the mile to 3:41 for 1500m just 4 years later?" I explained to him that it's all in raising the bar to another level. I w

Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

i'm just as stupid as the next guy out there, so i figure why not throw in my 2 cents. whatever happened to long term planning? is this done in the u.s. with distance athletes anymore? i'm sure that within micros and mesos, distance coaches of these athletes assign primary themes, but do they si

t-and-f: IAAF Council Meeting Report

IAAF Council meets in Paris – agrees that race walkers will receive Special Awards for World Best Performances Thursday 28 August 2003 Paris - Council agreed that although the two World Bests set in the Men’s 20km and 50km during these World Championships can not yet be recognised as official IA

Re: RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

At 08:24 AM 8/28/2003 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:16:18 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000 1) First - I have said for the last seven years that I saw the greatest 10k ever run, the final in Atlanta, with a 13:11 last 5k in tough c

RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

I think we are missing what I'm saying: "Hell, anyone can do 10x200 near all out with 200 meter recoveries at the end of an easy run everyday but I wouldn't call that a very hard workout." As I said above: 10x200 with 200 recovery is not a hard workout. It's not supposed to be. If you are doing

Re: t-and-f: IAAF Council Meeting Report

> Council also agreed that a clearly defined procedure needed to be established to avoid repetition of such incidents in future. Among >the specific procedures that are being considered are to: > Ask starters to use their discretion to avoid disqualifying more than one athlete at the same time, bu

Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

You are correct Ed, but it was only those 4 and they weren't back to back to back to back. Josh Cox did similar workouts when he (is he still?) was under Fila/Rosa's care. A long progression run of 30-42k, up to 25 x 1:00/1:00 fartlek, and long intervals. The famed Flouspar Hill 13 mile hill run

Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Alan - My understanding was that they did those four workouts in five days, they called it "survive the five" - Ed Parrot - Original Message - From: "alan tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:34 PM Subject: Re: t-and-

Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Ed, That sonds a little more like it, though notice how you say a couple years ago. Now its non-existent. Also, that looks like a good marathon schedule... and probably one very similar to what the top guys in the world are doing. However, there definitley would need to be more speed for a

Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

You could be right. 35k, 25x1:00/1:00, rest, Flouspar Hill, Intervals. That seems doable, but still hard as hell. All depends on how hard they really ran the long run and the hill run. Hell, I wish I had a 90 minute hill around here to run. Alan From: "edndana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "alan t

RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Alan, I can't disagree with you're sentiments on "sprint" work more. 200 meter strides are meant to work on your form. That is not sprint work. The one with 100 meter recovery is harder? Are you kidding me? The one with 100 meter recovery is basically a fartlek (I run my recovery jogs rela

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #4303

Ed Parrot, Michael Contopoulis (sp) & Alan Tobin! Please stop replying to the TNF List with the last 4 days of discussion. We've read it already 1000 times and its gets really difficult to follow any discussion, when you have to spend 10 minutes finding the new message. Thanks, MJR

Fwd: Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:25:12 +0200 Subject: Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000 From: Sieg Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: rich mccann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The '99 World Champs 5K, won in 12:58.13 by Hissou, comes to mind as a candidate. I'm guessing the Atlanta 10K was the best at that distance. Jus

Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Explain the logic of that statement. bob >The fact that the US program was plagued with injuries and the Rosa >Kenyan program has done well gives even more light to the rumor that >Rosa is a druglord. > >Alan Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls.

Re: t-and-f: IAAF Council Meeting Report

It also sounds like a very murky interpretation of what the electronic blocks are supposed to be accomplishing. Are they to be relied upon or not? If not, get rid of them or use them as an informational device only. Dan --- edndana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Council also agreed that a clear

t-and-f: Seiko Timing

Here's an article someone sent me (not sure what paper) on the Seiko Timing for the World Swimming champs - they provide timing for a myriad of other things, including the World Champs for T&F. I've heard a couple rumors about problems with the timinng - anyone know any more? - Ed Parrot July 28

RE: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

Mike. I've done both. Less recovery is MUCH harder. You might run it like a fartlek, but the way I ran it was 200 meters in around :32 100 meters slow slow jog. The workout with 200 meter recover was 200 meters in about :28-30 with 200 meters slow slow jog. My best 200 is a flying start high :26