Re: t-and-f: MJ's splits in his 43.18 WR (was Negative splits in 440)

2004-03-24 Thread MOrfuss
Don't mean to misread here--but I always thought the meaning of negative split is that the second half of a race is faster, not slower, than the first (as for example with Jim Ryun's WR 880 yards where he went out in 53+ and finished in 51+)--so MJ's splits in his WR 400 are not--by that

Re: t-and-f: MJ's splits in his 43.18 WR (was Negative splits in 440)

2004-03-24 Thread Dan Kaplan
If you subtract out the start (at least 0.50 to 0.75, maybe as much as 1.20 based on the 50m splits), then the second half arguably *was* run faster. In any sprint event, the start becomes a major factor when determining average speed. Not nearly as significant in events not run out of blocks.

Re: Re: t-and-f: MJ's splits in his 43.18 WR (was Negative splits in 440)

2004-03-24 Thread malmo
If you subtract out the start (at least 0.50 to 0.75, maybe as much as 1.20 based on the 50m splits), then the second half arguably *was* run faster. Are you sure you didn't mean to say something else? No matter how you slice it, after the first 50m each subsequent 50m split is slower than

RE: t-and-f: MJ's splits in his 43.18 WR (was Negative splits in 440)

2004-03-24 Thread Matthew Harber
Perhaps I am slightly less busy than you are today, but wouldn't 20.47 sec be 'faster' than 21.96 sec? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne T. Armbrust Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f:

Re: t-and-f: MJ's splits in his 43.18 WR (was Negative splits in 440)

2004-03-24 Thread Dan Kaplan
Ok, that obviously made zero sense. Message to self: Double check logic and math, then double check again, after being bed ridden for a week and a half... The numbers looked so purty, though. Dan --- edndana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan - I don't follow. If you subtract the start,

Re: t-and-f: MJ's splits in his 43.18 WR (was Negative splits in 440)

2004-03-24 Thread Jimson Lee
I like using 1.0 sec to account for acceleration out of the blocks, which would make his splits: 1.0, 10.10, 10.12, 10.44, 11.52 = 43.18 In his 200m, his splits were 10.12 + 9.20, or: 1.0, 9.12, 9.20 = 19.32 ... which shows he barely decelerated! Unheard of in most 200m sprinters JL

Re: t-and-f: MJ's splits in his 43.18 WR (was Negative splits in 440)

2004-03-24 Thread edndana
Yep, that 200m was Beamonesque. That was MJ with nothing to save it for and positively at the top of his game - Ed Parrot - Original Message - From: Jimson Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:51 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: MJ's splits in his 43.18