RE: t-and-f: Headline - Games opened to transsexual athletes

2003-11-16 Thread malmo
As silly as Paul's argument is, I think it is appropriate, considering
the IOC's absolutely asinine lead.

malmo








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women's (as far as athletics goes).  Thus the unfairness.
Would it be fair if I had 20-foot stilts implanted in my legs because 
that's what I felt I was naturally meant to have, and then broke the 
world record in the pole vault by stepping over the bar?  No.  Would it 
be fair if I felt that I was naturally 8 years old, and tried to 
compete in the junior olympics?  No.  How is this situation any 
different?







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 Subject: Re: t-and-f: Headline - Games opened to transsexual athletes

 On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:42:38 -0800 (GMT-08:00), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Are you a doctor?

 Yes, as a matter of fact Wayne IS a doctor!

 Let the medical experts decide.  Open your mind a bit: if the experts
 say they will be competing on a equal footing, then we should trust 
 they have the best of the Olympic movement in mind which means that 
 everyone should have the opportunity to compete.

 People have to earn my trust- I don't give it away.
 And lately the IOC isn't exactly on a hot streak of proving that they
 have ANYBODY'S best interest in mind except their own wallet and 
 political power.

 which means that everyone should have the opportunity to compete.

 Hey that means I can compete next year in Atlanta too, at
 age 47!  After all you don't want politically incorrect age 
 discrimination do you?  Or discrimination against the 
 fitness-challenged? No, let EVERYONE compete.  Just give everybody 
 world wide the same day off every four years, to go out to the nearest

 track, and call it an 'everybody participates' Olympics.

 This is garbage and you know it.

 Life is full of choices.  If Michael Johnson chose to have somebody
 chop off his Johnson, he could no longer compete as MJ. 
 ..h

 RT









Re: t-and-f: Headline - Games opened to transsexual athletes

2003-11-15 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Won't some of the drug tests be skewed?

Wayne T. Armbrust wrote:

 This is absolutely absurd, terminal political correctness.  A male to
 female (so-called) transsexual, even after undergoing hormone therapy,
 will still have much higher strength indexes than women.  Can the IOC
 cram this down the throat of the IAAF?




RE: t-and-f: Headline - Games opened to transsexual athletes

2003-11-15 Thread P.F.Talbot

Also, wasn't gender testing stopped years ago?

I suppose the ultimate political correctness would be to eliminate separate
male and female events.


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Won't some of the drug tests be skewed?

Wayne T. Armbrust wrote:

 This is absolutely absurd, terminal political correctness.  A male to
 female (so-called) transsexual, even after undergoing hormone therapy,
 will still have much higher strength indexes than women.  Can the IOC
 cram this down the throat of the IAAF?






Re: t-and-f: Headline - Games opened to transsexual athletes

2003-11-15 Thread koala
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:42:38 -0800 (GMT-08:00), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you a doctor?

Yes, as a matter of fact Wayne IS a doctor!

Let the medical experts decide.  Open your mind a bit: if the
experts say they will be competing on a equal footing, then
we should trust they have the best of the Olympic movement
in mind which means that everyone should have the
opportunity to compete.

People have to earn my trust- I don't give it away.
And lately the IOC isn't exactly on a hot streak of proving that
they have ANYBODY'S best interest in mind except their own
wallet and political power.

which means that everyone should have the opportunity to
compete.

Hey that means I can compete next year in Atlanta too, at
age 47!  After all you don't want politically incorrect age discrimination
do you?  Or discrimination against the fitness-challenged?
No, let EVERYONE compete.  Just give everybody world wide
the same day off every four years, to go out to the nearest track,
and call it an 'everybody participates' Olympics.

This is garbage and you know it.

Life is full of choices.  If Michael Johnson chose to have somebody
chop off his Johnson, he could no longer compete as MJ.
..h

RT




Re: t-and-f: Headline - Games opened to transsexual athletes

2003-11-15 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Do you have a name?  If so, use it.

tafnut wrote:

Are you a doctor?  Let the medical experts decide.  Open your mind a bit: if the experts say they will be competing on a equal footing, then we should trust they have the best of the Olympic movement in mind which means that everyone should have the opportunity to compete.

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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Headline - Games opened to transsexual athletes
This is absolutely absurd, terminal political correctness.  A male to 
female (so-called) transsexual, even after undergoing hormone therapy, 
will still have much higher strength indexes than women.  Can the IOC 
cram this down the throat of the IAAF?

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