Re: t-and-f: Thiam puts Senegal on sporting map

2001-08-10 Thread Ralf Linnemann
The Electronic Telegraph Thursday 9 August 2001 Tom Knight [...] Merry said: [...] I'm glad Breuer didn't win because of her tarnished past. Does that mean, she wishes her teammate Mark Richardson not to win because of his tarnished past? Once guilty, ever guilty? Hard to believe.

t-and-f: USATF Release: JOHNSON WINS THIRD WORLD TITLE!

2001-08-10 Thread Usatfcom99
Contact:Jill M. Geer Director of Communications At the USATF Xerox Media Center: 780-821-4130 http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, August 8, 2001 Johnson wins third world title Hysong and Crawford bring home bronze EDMONTON - Allen Johnson on

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-10 Thread Ralf Linnemann
Is it really necessary to quote the original message in full length to every follow-up only to add an one-liner? I am receiving the t-and-f digest and it is irritating to wade through the same hundreds of lines over and over to spot the reply. Ralf Linnemann

t-and-f: Al Sheahen's indictment of WMA

2001-08-10 Thread TrackCEO
Greetings, all: If you met him on the street, you'd call Al Sheahen shy. He doesn't get outwardly emotional. He doesn't show off. From his modest apartment in Sherman Oaks, California, he quietly goes about the business of publishing and editing the most important publication in the world of

Re: t-and-f: What in the world happened?

2001-08-10 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/9/01 21:02:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I have is the agate on the IAAF/Edmonton web site- 42 women started the 20K Walk, and FIFTEEN OF THEM got disqualified!!! Is that a new record or something? More than a third of the field. i make no claims to being a walk

Re: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/9/01 15:32:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What we have left in these games are a group of sprinters who 18 months ago would have had to fight for good lane draws in the semis .. As one who for many years placed raw numbers ahead of reality, I'm somewhat hypocriical in

RE: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread Post, Marty
The SEIKO photo finish of the men's 200 is at: http://www.iaaf.org/WCH01/Images/PhotoFinish/M_200__f_1.jpg It appears that there are just seven green vertical timing lines, which means the third from the right is actually a third-fourth place double-line with the Crawford-Collins lane 1-2 tie

Re: t-and-f: 200 photofinish

2001-08-10 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 8/9/01 10:51:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess MJ will have eat his hat. He said, I think, that Kenderis would never win another Champs 200. After the race, Michael said on air, I guess I'll have to give him more credit (or words to that effect). Walt Murphy

Re: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 30+ years of covering world-class track, I've never (andi mean NEVER) seen a blanket finish to touch this one. For anyone who hasn't seen it, a small version of the photo is available on the IAAF site: http://www.iaaf.org/WCH01/Results/data/M/200/Rf.html

RE: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread malmo
As one who for many years placed raw numbers ahead of reality, I'm somewhat hypocriical in criticizing Conway here, but... as somebody who saw the race in person i've got to say that I may never have seen a greater 200. It blows MJ's 19.32 out of the water, for instance. blows

Re: t-and-f: 200 photofinish

2001-08-10 Thread Runtenkm
I guess MJ will have eat his hat. He said, I think, that Kenderis would never win another Champs 200. He also admitted that he was wrong about that - something a boatload of announcers should try. Steve S.

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British ...

2001-08-10 Thread Runtenkm
I'm wondering if the British genes are just not as good currently as they were in the Coe/Ovett era. Let's face it - if the British had produced another generation of Coe's and Ovett's including a natural progression of improvement they would be running right with the best the world has to

Re: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/10/01 07:07:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pretty impressive, although I'd be zooming in a few times would show pretty clear gaps between the runners. one would think so, but i can assure you that in the stadium they showed the finish from the front, from overhead, from

t-and-f: the 11th place wall

2001-08-10 Thread Post, Marty
hmm, seems to be a pattern here: M1500 - Jennings, 11th heat; Lassiter, 11th heat Msteeple - Chorny, 11th semi; Famigletti, 11th semi; Broe, 11th final W5000 - Dryer, 11th semi W10,000 - Drossin, 11th okay, Runyan did finish 9th in her 5000 semi, but Goucher and McMullen beware Marty Post

Re: t-and-f: 200 photofinish

2001-08-10 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 8/10/01 10:36:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He also admitted that he was wrong about that You have to realize that it's the ATHLETES who are wrong, NEVER the on-air talent. They can't help it if people finish in the wrong places Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread Conway
Actually Garry I agree with you .. And I agree with me too ... I guess two Hills must make a right !!! The race last night was one for the ages .. One of the most exciting competitive races in the history of the sport .. And actually more exciting than MJs WR if only because of how competitive

t-and-f: Relay Time

2001-08-10 Thread Conway
Relays start tomorrow, yet there are no start lists up yet .. Anyone know why .. Also there has been no word yet on the make up of any of the US squads .. Does that mean they will all be getting together tomorrow before the start of each race to draw straws ?? Given our dismal overall

Re: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Although I would love it if my fellow Greek were to challenge a healthy Mo, do you really think that would be the case? As Kederis dominated this field, you have to think Greene would dominate him. I'm sure a healthy Greene could run 19.6ish. Anyway... maybe we'll see it in Paris. How old

t-and-f: Jennings Interview on the deuce

2001-08-10 Thread Phil Weishaar
in case you missed on of the alltime track interviews with Gabe Jennings after he finished last in his 1500 heat last night here is the jist of it: Like, wow, dude I had a vision man. I can see me beating those guys (El G was in his heat) man. I had a vision (using both hands to point to his

Re: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote...

2001-08-10 Thread Michael Contopoulos
If he knew he was out of shape, why didn't he pass it over to Berryhill who has been racing fairly well this summer? Instead he goes there unprepared and embarasses us both on and off the track. No slight to good ol Jabe... but he himself admitted he was not in shape. If I was Brian, I

RE: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-10 Thread alan tobin
My previous remarks stands and is correct. Same routine...Entine posts dribble, we respond, we respond some more, we get interested, we buy Entine's book, Entine's pockets get fatter. As Malmo said, same ol shite. Alan http://www.geocities.com/runningart2004 From: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread Conway
Phil wrote: BTW When was the last lane 1 medal winner in 200? I believe Larry Black in '72 .. He got the silver in 20.19 behind Borzov's 20.00 Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: t-and-f: Jabe's exact quote...

2001-08-10 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
He started as a music major who had never sang or played any musical instruments. Now he has switched to math, which seems an odd choice to the outside observer (It's difficult, objective and unforgiving). He seems like someone who should NOT be a math major, but I have to say, that is NOT my

Re: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 8/10/01 3:05:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How are lanes assigned for the 200 or 400 running 3 semi heats. I heard the winner got a middle lane but which middle lanes just 3 of them? Does the next fastest get into the pool of 4 middle lanes? Traditionally, the three

RE: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread malmo
Having said that, I still stick by original statement (which was made BEFORE then 200 final) with one slight alteration - that with the exception of Kederis we were left with a group of sprinters who 18 months ago would have been fighting for good lane draws in the semis !! In 18

Re: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread Conway
Mike wrote: Although I would love it if my fellow Greek were to challenge a healthy Mo, do you really think that would be the case? As Kederis dominated this field, you have to think Greene would dominate him. I'm sure a healthy Greene could run 19.6ish. Anyway... maybe we'll see it in

Re: t-and-f: What Happened to the 200 meters ??

2001-08-10 Thread Phil Weishaar
sprinting, even in slomo replays. You can imagine what it was like to the naked eye the first time through. gh I saw it on TV without knowing what to expect and felt like the 2-3 places were going to come from the lanes 1-2-3 but not who. Kinda like the OL Trials womens 100HH finals several