Re: t-and-f: Dragila's Records

2007-07-12 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust

That would really have been some record :-)

Roger Ruth wrote:

Another possible difference between IAAF and USATF criteria might be 
in what would have been a world record of 5.65m at Pocatello on 9 
February 2001...



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Re: t-and-f: Dragila's Records

2007-07-12 Thread Bob Duncan
What a legacy.  Thanks for posting, Roger.   I still have her picture up in 
my home office from that racy track calendar way back when.  Hopefully she 
isn't done yet.  It has been depressing watching her (or not) so far this 
year.


bob

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Subject: t-and-f: Dragila's Records



With Yelena Isinbayeva facing Jenn Stuczynski as the new U.S. record
holder for the first time at Rome's Golden Gala tomorrow night, it
might be timely to look back at the record contributions of Jenn's
national record predecessor, Stacy Dragila.

I'm not sure I have all of Stacy's records (records to date, that is--I
haven't given up on her adding others in the future), but perhaps
someone can fill in blanks and correct errors. I'm especially uncertain
as to whether USATF accepted as national records marks at Modesto on 21
May 2000 and at Phoenix on 26 May 2000. The Modesto mark of 4.60m tied
her own and Emma George's world outdoor best, but was not submitted to
IAAF for world record ratification because her indoor 4.62 at Atlanta
on 3 March of that year would be considered the world record under the
new IAAF rules combining indoor and outdoor best marks for world
records a/o 1 January 2000. The Phoenix mark was not ratified by IAAF
because there was no drug testing available at the meet, but USATF may
have accepted as sufficient a negative result in a test the following
morning. Another possible difference between IAAF and USATF criteria
might be in what would have been a world record of 5.65m at Pocatello
on 9 February 2001, where Stacy was an invited participant in a college
dual meet and the IAAF ruled that this constituted an exhibition,
rather than a competition.

Setting those uncertainies aside, my files show Dragila bettering or
tying indoor or outdoor national records 43 times. I wonder how that
compares with similar figures for other events. It may be that such a
comparison is unfair, in that pole vaulters and high jumpers are alone
in being able to choose the margin of improvement in any single attempt.

Dragila's Indoor National and World Records:

3.89i 1996-01-13 en Pocatello NR
3.96i 1996-01-13 1 Pocatello NR
4.00i 1996-01-19 1= Reno NRT (tied with Melissa Price)
4.05i 1996-02-10 1 Pocatello NR
4.05i 1996-03-10 en Atlanta NR=
4.10i 1996-03-10 1 Atlanta NR
4.14i 1997-01-11 en Pocatello NR
4.27i 1997-01-11 1 Pocatello NR
4.30i 1997-01-24 1 Reno NR
4.30i 1997-03-09 en Paris-Bercy NR=
4.35i 1997-03-09 en Paris-Bercy NR
4.40i 1997-03-09 1 Paris-Bercy NR/WIR=
4.48i 1998-03-08 1 Sindelfingen   NR/WIR
4.51i 2000-01-28 1 Pocatello NR
4.57i 2000-02-19 en Pocatello NR/WIR
4.61i 2000-02-19 1 Pocatello NR/WR
4.62i 2000-03-03 1 Atlanta NR/WR
4.63i 2001-02-02 1 New York NR/WR=
4.65i 2001-02-09 1 Pocatello ?
4.66i 2001-02-17 en Pocatello NR/WR
4.70i 2001-02-17 1 Pocatello NR/WR
4.71i 2003-02-01 1 Boston NR
4.72i 2003-02-07 1 New York NR
4.78i   2003-03-02 1 Boston NR/WIR
4.81i 2004-03-06 2 Budapest NR

Dragila's Oudoor National and World Records:

4.13 1996-04-20 1 Lawrence NR
4.15 1996-06-02 en Abbotsford  NR
4.19 1996-06-02 1 Abbotsford NR
4.20 1996-06-19 1 Atlanta NR
4.22 1997-04-12 1 Eugene NR
4.24 1997-04-20 1 Walnut NR
4.28 1997-04-25 1 Provo NR
4.30 1997-05-10 en Modesto NR
4.45 1997-05-10 1 Modesto NR
4.46 1999-04-19 1 Walnut NR
4.47 1999-06-06 en Uniondale NR
4.54 1999-06-06 1 Uniondale NR
4.60 1999-08-21 1 Sevilla NR/WR=
4.60 2000-05-21 1 Modesto ?
4.62 2000-05-26 1 Phoenix ?
4.63 2000-07-23 1 Sacramento  NR/WR
4.66 2001-04-27 en Pocatello NR/WOB
4.70 2001-04-27 1 Pocatello NR/WR=
4.71 2001-06-09 en Palo Alto NR/WR
4.81 2001-06-09 1 Palo Alto NR/WR
4.83 2004-08-06 1 Ostrava NR/WOB

N. B.--WR vs WIR vs WOB

Since January 1, 2000 it has been possible to set an absolute world
record (WR) in the vault either indoors or outdoors. Since that time,
an indoor record that is lower than a current world record set outdoors
is classified as the World Indoor Record (WIR). However an outdoor
record that is lower than a current world record set indoors is
classified as the World Outdoor Best (WOB), not as the World Outdoor
Record. I've never heard an explanation for the inconsistency.








t-and-f: Dragila's Records

2007-07-12 Thread Roger Ruth
With Yelena Isinbayeva facing Jenn Stuczynski as the new U.S. record 
holder for the first time at Rome's Golden Gala tomorrow night, it 
might be timely to look back at the record contributions of Jenn's 
national record predecessor, Stacy Dragila.


I'm not sure I have all of Stacy's records (records to date, that is--I 
haven't given up on her adding others in the future), but perhaps 
someone can fill in blanks and correct errors. I'm especially uncertain 
as to whether USATF accepted as national records marks at Modesto on 21 
May 2000 and at Phoenix on 26 May 2000. The Modesto mark of 4.60m tied 
her own and Emma George's world outdoor best, but was not submitted to 
IAAF for world record ratification because her indoor 4.62 at Atlanta 
on 3 March of that year would be considered the world record under the 
new IAAF rules combining indoor and outdoor best marks for world 
records a/o 1 January 2000. The Phoenix mark was not ratified by IAAF 
because there was no drug testing available at the meet, but USATF may 
have accepted as sufficient a negative result in a test the following 
morning. Another possible difference between IAAF and USATF criteria 
might be in what would have been a world record of 5.65m at Pocatello 
on 9 February 2001, where Stacy was an invited participant in a college 
dual meet and the IAAF ruled that this constituted an exhibition, 
rather than a competition.


Setting those uncertainies aside, my files show Dragila bettering or 
tying indoor or outdoor national records 43 times. I wonder how that 
compares with similar figures for other events. It may be that such a 
comparison is unfair, in that pole vaulters and high jumpers are alone 
in being able to choose the margin of improvement in any single attempt.


Dragila's Indoor National and World Records:

3.89i1996-01-13 en  Pocatello   NR
3.96i1996-01-13 1   Pocatello   NR
4.00i1996-01-19 1=  RenoNRT (tied with Melissa Price)
4.05i1996-02-10 1   Pocatello   NR
4.05i1996-03-10 en  Atlanta NR=
4.10i1996-03-10 1   Atlanta NR
4.14i1997-01-11 en  Pocatello   NR
4.27i1997-01-11 1   Pocatello   NR
4.30i1997-01-24 1   RenoNR
4.30i1997-03-09 en  Paris-Bercy  NR=
4.35i1997-03-09 en  Paris-Bercy  NR
4.40i1997-03-09 1   Paris-Bercy  NR/WIR=
4.48i1998-03-08 1   Sindelfingen   NR/WIR
4.51i2000-01-28 1   Pocatello   NR
4.57i2000-02-19 en  Pocatello   NR/WIR
4.61i2000-02-19 1   Pocatello   NR/WR
4.62i2000-03-03 1   Atlanta NR/WR
4.63i2001-02-02 1   New YorkNR/WR=
4.65i2001-02-09 1   Pocatello   ?
4.66i2001-02-17 en  Pocatello   NR/WR
4.70i2001-02-17 1   Pocatello   NR/WR
4.71i2003-02-01 1   Boston  NR
4.72i2003-02-07 1   New YorkNR
4.78i   2003-03-02  1   Boston  NR/WIR
4.81i2004-03-06 2   BudapestNR

Dragila's Oudoor National and World Records:

4.131996-04-20  1   LawrenceNR
4.151996-06-02  en  Abbotsford  NR
4.191996-06-02  1   Abbotsford   NR
4.201996-06-19  1   Atlanta NR
4.221997-04-12  1   Eugene  NR
4.241997-04-20  1   Walnut  NR
4.281997-04-25  1   Provo   NR
4.301997-05-10  en  Modesto NR
4.451997-05-10  1   Modesto NR
4.461999-04-19  1   Walnut  NR
4.471999-06-06  en  Uniondale   NR
4.541999-06-06  1   Uniondale   NR
4.601999-08-21  1   Sevilla NR/WR=
4.602000-05-21  1   Modesto ?
4.622000-05-26  1   Phoenix ?
4.632000-07-23  1   Sacramento  NR/WR
4.662001-04-27  en  Pocatello   NR/WOB
4.702001-04-27  1   Pocatello   NR/WR=
4.712001-06-09  en  Palo Alto   NR/WR
4.812001-06-09  1   Palo Alto   NR/WR
4.832004-08-06  1   Ostrava NR/WOB

N. B.--WR vs WIR vs WOB

Since January 1, 2000 it has been possible to set an absolute world 
record (WR) in the vault either indoors or outdoors. Since that time, 
an indoor record that is lower than a current world record set outdoors 
is classified as the World Indoor Record (WIR). However an outdoor 
record that is lower than a current world record set indoors is 
classified as the World Outdoor Best (WOB), not as the World Outdoor 
Record. I've never heard an explanation for the inconsistency.