Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer Generally, I don't think it's acceptable to change the definitions of tags in this way. +1 +1 (although my recent edits against noexit=no) I also wonder how we should deal with this specific situation. Can we still assume any default

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/27 Pieren pier...@gmail.com no, IMHO we shouldn't generally imply but tag explicitly, otherwise consistency is at risk. no, if we don't have defaults, we will have to populate 20, 30 or 50 attributs on each highway in the future. come on, I wonder where those 50 attributes should

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/27 Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: no, IMHO we shouldn't generally imply but tag explicitly, otherwise consistency is at risk. If the tags implied by another tag were documented in a standard form, in a central place (so any application,

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Alessandro Rubini wrote: I don't think there are road types that are inherently one-way, besides roundabouts. This is a two-way motorway link, for example: http://maps.google.it/?ie=UTF8ll=45.249774,9.044243spn=0.002761,0.004914t=kz=18 It is indeed, but my guess is that it's an exception,

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On 11/27/09, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote: Alessandro Rubini wrote: This is a two-way motorway link, for example: [...] It is indeed, but my guess is that it's an exception, and not the normal. It is not: most motorway links in italy are made of both one-way and

Re: [Tagging] wiki+rules for mapping protected areas: nationalpark, naturereserve, etc.

2009-11-27 Thread tshrub
Hi, ... there is an update of this site: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary=protected_area r.t. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] wiki+rules for mapping protected areas: nationalpark, naturereserve, etc.

2009-11-27 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, It will be great to see what you recommend. I haven't made a final decision, nor really talked to the talk-ca list about what the 'National Protected Areas' database that is (going to) be ready for import in Canada. I have a sample

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Dave F.
How do you set the direction for one-way without explicitly defining it? Dave F. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Tobias Knerr wrote: Should an application developer decide to assume oneway=no (which might lead to longer-than-optimal routing results) or oneway=yes (which might send you the wrong way up a trunk link)? I would prefer one-way to never be assumed as yes, even on motorways, for consistency's

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Liz wrote: and when the comment in the history from 21 June is read it says (This won't break any ways, because 1. nobody (approximately) uses this for routing yet, 2. assuming they're 2-way in a routing app is potentially dangerous anyway.) 2 never applies in practice, especially outside

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Jonathan Bennett wrote: It also means that newcomers may not quite get the tagging right, because they assume that a road type which is inherently one-way doesn't need explicit tagging. Name one road type which is inherently one-way. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Dave F.
Dave F. wrote: How do you set the direction for one-way without explicitly defining it? Dave F. Ahh! disregard please - I answered it myself. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I should probably point out that not all roundabouts are one-way. I'm waiting an example. Definition of roundabout: A roundabout is one of several types of circular road junctions or intersections at which traffic is

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Liz
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009, Paul Johnson wrote: I should probably point out that not all roundabouts are one-way. That's a traffic circle I have researched this point.. Liz ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org