Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread David ``Smith''
Here's how I'd address the concerns in this thread: tracks=*: number of tracks represented by the way having the tag, as per wiki total_tracks=*: number of tracks in the right-of-way of the rail line, regardless of how many parallel ways exist. This sounds more like a tag appropriate for a rail

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: tracks=*: number of tracks represented by the way having the tag, as per wiki total_tracks=*: number of tracks in the right-of-way of the rail line, regardless of how many parallel ways exist. This sounds more like

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread David ``Smith''
On Aug 14, 2012 6:43 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: tracks=*: number of tracks represented by the way having the tag, as per wiki total_tracks=*: number of tracks in the right-of-way of the rail line,

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:03 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: A little bit of redundancy is fine if it makes the data significantly easier to use, IMO. Excepted that ITO map is interpreting the tag as it is documented. If you zoom at the maximum [1], you will see that the

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread Dave F.
On 14/08/2012 11:13, David Fisher wrote: Problem : if you check the data, you see that RM added the new tag but did not revert his wrong interpretation of the old tracks. Well, I'd see that as a side-issue, rather than a problem to be honest. It was the only reason I initially contacted

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread Dave F.
On 14/08/2012 10:39, David Fisher wrote: -- as RM also correctly points out, knowledge of the total number of running tracks on a stretch of railway is useful for operational reasons, as shown in the ITO map.. Actually the ITO map doesn't represent total numbers. It's representing the wiki

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread David ``Smith''
On Aug 14, 2012 7:48 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:03 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: A little bit of redundancy is fine if it makes the data significantly easier to use, IMO. Excepted that ITO map is interpreting the tag as it is documented.

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread Pieren
I'm forwarding here the reply from Peter Miller, ITO World: Personally I find the suggestion of total_tracks reasonably appealing initially, however it would have to be repeated across all the tracks which seems ugly and still doesn't say with

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread David Fisher
Well, ok, I probably didn't state that very clearly. My point was that the ITO map is an example of the usefulness of counting the total number of tracks, regardless of how the counting is actually achieved. Also, my point about 'sniping' and 'mediation' was that the issue of an OSM member not

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, Pieren wrote: Personally I find the suggestion of total_tracks reasonably appealing initially, however it would have to be repeated across all the tracks which seems ugly and still doesn't say with confidence which tracks are connected. The relation approach is clearer

Re: [Tagging] Advice clarification of the railway tracks=* tag required.

2012-08-14 Thread David ``Smith''
On Aug 14, 2012 8:47 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I'm forwarding here the reply from Peter Miller, ITO World: An automated approach would involve merging all close tracks and figuring it out. Not trivial but quite computable in my view.

Re: [Tagging] on the name of a tag for landcover

2012-08-14 Thread Johan Jönsson
Frederik Ramm frederik@... writes: On 08/13/12 11:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: +1, the FAO system seems quite elaborated (might be too detailed/complicated/long for OSM, not sure, Anything used for OSM must enable someone who knows shit about biology and geology to make a meaningful

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Conditional Restrictions

2012-08-14 Thread Ole Nielsen
This is the formal RFC for the Conditional Restrictions proposal which was already mentioned here last week. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Conditional_restrictions Feel free to discuss the proposal on the talk page of the proposal. Ole / polderrunner