[Tagging] How to tag max width at chicane-type bicycle barriers

2013-12-03 Thread Volker Schmidt
Here in Italy we have plenty of bicycle barriers or chicanes ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Barrier_examples), often with more than 2 inverted-U-shaped bars to make life even more difficult. They are used to prevent motorcycles from using cycle paths (not as in Germany to prevent bicycles

Re: [Tagging] How to tag max width at chicane-type bicycle barriers

2013-12-03 Thread Richard Mann
I've pondered this without conclusion, yet. Unfortunately it's a bit complicated, since length and width of vehicle, width of barrier and width of path all come into play. You could probably calculate it for standard bikes by drawing a ?0.7m straight path through the barrier and then calculating

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-12-03 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de wrote: If we want to extend the tagging, we should use a new but generic tag (camera?) in my opinion. Yes, this may result in parallel tagging - but we should not run in the next cul-de-sac with one's eyes open. We already

Re: [Tagging] How to tag max width at chicane-type bicycle barriers

2013-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.12.2013 um 10:44 schrieb Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: Should I use width or est_width which normally indicates the width of a way? Yes, you could tag the width to the portion of cycle way in the barrier. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag max width at chicane-type bicycle barriers

2013-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/3 Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de If I would see a tag width (or est-width) at an object called barrier, I would assume - in the first line: It is the width of the barrier object itself. - on a second thought: It may be the total width of the opening left in the barrier. But

[Tagging] max{height, width}:physical was Re: How to tag max width at chicane-type bicycle barriers

2013-12-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/3/13 7:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: if you want to tag this on the barrier (node), it might also be an option to use maxwidth:physical. This is currently not among the mostly used tags, but the similar maxheight:physical has some (few) usage, and it indicates nicely that this is

Re: [Tagging] How to tag babycare?

2013-12-03 Thread Jonathan
+1 http://bigfatfrog67.me On 03/12/2013 10:56, Pieren wrote: So I would prefer amenity=changing_table as an isolated feature or changing_table=yes when attached to something else (like amenity=toilets). Something similar is proposed here:

[Tagging] noexit

2013-12-03 Thread André Pirard
Hi, noexit http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:noexit=yes, apparently corresponding to this dead end signal, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium#F45 is said to be used at the end of a highway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=* to indicate that there no

Re: [Tagging] noexit

2013-12-03 Thread Mike N
On 12/3/2013 8:48 AM, André Pirard wrote: I doubt very much that this tags helps anybody or any quality-check program to understand anything. A note should suffice, and I think the best option would be to remove that confusing tag. It is a signal to quality checking programs such as KeepRight.

Re: [Tagging] noexit

2013-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 03/dic/2013 um 14:48 schrieb André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: noexit=yes, apparently corresponding to this dead end signal, is said to be used at the end of a highway=* to indicate that there no possibility to travel further by any transport mode this is a hint for the mapper

Re: [Tagging] noexit

2013-12-03 Thread Georg Feddern
Am 03.12.2013 14:48, schrieb André Pirard: I agree to: This tag is - not necessary for routing - senseless on ways - only useful on nodes (the last one, where no other way is connected) The wiki should be changed, especially the use on ways should be removed. But I do not agree to I

Re: [Tagging] noexit

2013-12-03 Thread Jo
Or possibly somebody changed the meaning of the tag on the wiki, without telling dinosaurs like myself. At first it was a tag that went on ways which are a dead end for cars. It got an icon in JOSM when put on nodes and people started using it on end nodes. Op 3 dec. 2013 15:28 schreef Mike N

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-03 Thread Pee Wee
As far as I know it is not common to change the wiki while voting. I want to change many things but I understand why it is not fair to change while voting. Today I noticed that user Emkey08 added info to wiki (Rationale routing) . Is this OK? Cheers PeeWee32 2013/12/2 Jonathan