Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 Thread Steve Doerr
On 01/04/2014 02:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: Fly mentioned shelter_type just now — another type of wilderness accommodation is a basic shelter called a lean-to, a rough three sided, roofed shelter, open to the elements on one side. That's an odd use of the word 'lean-to'. Yes, a lean-to is a

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 Thread Dave Swarthout
In the old days when the term was first brought into use in the Adirondack Mountains, it was just that, a bunch of spruce branches leaning against a tree. At any rate, they are common features in the eastern American wilderness regions. See this link about lean-tos on the Appalachian Trail

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 Thread Rene Maroufi
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 08:01:01AM +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: I think a link to shelter:type would be a good addition to the Map Features; Tourism page for further choices when tagging wilderness shelters. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter_type. Note that this page throws more

[Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
Hello everyone, This is my first post to the list, which I've just joined, but I've been a mapper for a few years and some of you might remember me as compere at last year's State of the Map. Yesterday, I met with the W3Cs' data on the web best practice working group. At their request, I gave a

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Could the more general description found for mountain hut http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_hut be used in the context of alpine_hut as this would make it more universal. This would then cover the climbing huts found in the UK as described in the wikipedia article. Additional tags

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-01 Thread Dan S
Hi Andy, 2014-04-01 16:29 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: Hello everyone, This is my first post to the list, which I've just joined, but I've been a mapper for a few years and some of you might remember me as compere at last year's State of the Map. And well done indeed!

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 1 April 2014 17:31, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-01 16:29 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: last year's State of the Map. And well done indeed! Thank you. I've just modified [[Template:KeyDescription]] by adding two parameters: for website and

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
I commend this proposal to the list: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread Pierre Knobel
Hi all, I'm new on this mailing list, but I spend a few months already on the talk-fr list and I've been mapping for a while longer. I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud I was quite surprised that there wasn't already a

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 April 2014 18:08, Pierre Knobel pierr...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud I think this is tag a very good idea. Clouds are very noticeable features in the landscape. I just have some concerns

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread Mike Thompson
I am hoping this has something to do with it being April 1st On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: On 1 April 2014 18:08, Pierre Knobel pierr...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday:

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 01 April 2014, Pierre Knobel wrote: Hi all, I'm new on this mailing list, but I spend a few months already on the talk-fr list and I've been mapping for a while longer. I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-04-01 19:14 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: On 1 April 2014 18:08, Pierre Knobel pierr...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud I think this is tag a very good idea. Clouds

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread Pierre Knobel
I see the problem, it's tricky. Maybe we've hit the boundaries of what it is possible to achieve with nodes, ways and relations. Maybe we should ask the developers to add a new type of object that would be more suitable for this situation. It would need to be diffuse, span over several layers and

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread Clay Smalley
Sounds about right, but add layer=* tags where appropriate. Clouds go above the land, so we have to make sure they render above everything (except certain bridges and buildings). Might as well add layer=5 to all of them for good measure. On Apr 1, 2014 12:16 PM, Matthijs Melissen

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread malenki
Pierre Knobel wrote on Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:08:01 +0200: I'm new on this mailing list, but I spend a few months already on the talk-fr list and I've been mapping for a while longer. I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcloud I

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread Christian Quest
Rendering for natural=cloud has been added to the FR rendering: http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=15lat=48.63541lon=-1.51142layers=B000FFT white = non rainy cloud dark = rainy cloud 2014-04-01 19:25 GMT+02:00 Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com: Sounds about right, but add layer=*

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/1/14 1:01 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I'd be happy to do that; what do others think? While semantically correct, I think more mapper might understand URL. is it a URI or a URL? if it's strictly a URL, that's fine, URL as a term is not deprecated, it's merely a subset of URI. but if you intend

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-01 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote: The model used there fails with Wikipedia links, expressed as en:Example, because the equivalent URL is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example. Any suggestions for dealing with that? [...] ambiguous keys (ref=1234

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-01 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 01.04.2014 19:04, Andy Mabbett wrote: I commend this proposal to the list: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata I like Wikidata and therefore want to see this proposal approved. :) What I'm interested in, though: If an object exists both in Wikipedia and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-01 Thread John Packer
If an object exists both in Wikipedia and Wikidata, would you expect both tags to be used? Wikipedia links can be obtained from the Wikidata API for a given Wikidata ID and vice versa, so one of the two would suffice. It might seem redundant but the key wikipedia shouldn't be removed when

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread Richard Z.
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 12:25:03PM -0500, Clay Smalley wrote: Sounds about right, but add layer=* tags where appropriate. Clouds go above the land, so we have to make sure they render above everything (except certain bridges and buildings). Might as well add layer=5 to all of them for good

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-01 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-01 17:29, Andy Mabbett wrote : Hello everyone, This is my first post to the list, which I've just joined, but I've been a mapper for a few years and some of you might remember me as compere at last year's State of the Map. Yesterday, I met with the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-01 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-01 23:17, Tobias Knerr wrote : On 01.04.2014 19:04, Andy Mabbett wrote: I commend this proposal to the list: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata I like Wikidata and therefore want to see this proposal approved. :) What I'm interested in, though: If an