[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - waterway=sanitary dump station

2015-04-09 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/waterway%3Dsanitary_dump_station This is an extension of the land based proposal, recognizing that marine and land facilities serve different users. A marine focused pumpout icon is needed to complete the proposal.

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-04-09 15:08 GMT+02:00 John Willis jo...@mac.com: But a hospital has the emergency entrance - would we want a special tag for a hospital's emergency entrance? (This is often quite different from the main entrance) I think we'd want to, yes. (Although you might be able to see this also

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 09.04.2015 02:52, Warin wrote: c) No default unit. All entries would require a declaration of the units used. Thus this would be an incorrect entry and ignored. This is my clear favourite. If providing a default is favoured by the majority, then I won't insist on this further. However,

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-04-09 8:16 GMT+02:00 Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com: Please note that speed limits are _not_ interpreted by regions. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed states that the unit has to be added explicitly when it’s not km/h – independent of the region where you are mapping.

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sorry, unfinished mail ... typically private shops and pubs, offices etc) to enter in case you were victim of an aggression. http://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_Noteingang Am 09.04.2015 um 13:19 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 09.04.2015 um 11:22

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Volker Schmidt
In line with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature#Temperature_scales I would strongly suggest the defaulti unit to be degrees Celsius. There is a technical problem with the units: Celsius °C and °F have the degree symbol °, whereas the SI unit Kelvin K does not. Given the difficulty of finding

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Warin
Sorry .. I have not made that clear .. The default speed limit for motorways on OSM in, say, Australia would be taking regionally, while that for USA would be different and taken for that region? See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed ? On 9/04/2015 4:16 PM,

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Warin
On 9/04/2015 4:49 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: There is no regional default if the units are not specified. Not the default unit, but the default speed limit. Reference http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed -- Andrew On 9 April 2015 at 15:42, Warin

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread John Willis
The most common door to be mapped is a fire door (often signed emergency exit in America), and some kind of escape, like access from underground to street level for a subway evacuation. Japan has a lot of elevated motorways on pillars, with noise walls, so essentially you're driving in a

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Dave Swarthout
C'mon folks. Temperatures are always measured in degrees, hence it is completely unnecessary to include this hard-to-type symbol in the value. We know if it's a temperature, the value will be a certain number of degrees. As for regional differences, let's not go there. The metric system is the

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Andrew Errington
There is no regional default if the units are not specified. In the case of maxspeed it is always km/h if the units are not specified. If mph is intended then mph must be specified. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed So, for your example of temperature, if the units are not

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 9 April 2015 at 01:52, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Say a mapper tags temperature=42 Under what circumstances would such a tag be used. How would we know that the actual temperature is not 41 or 43? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread johnw
On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like an indication of the preference for the default unit of the temperature= value Say a mapper tags temperature=42 The options are to interpret this as a) values would be interpreted as degrees Celsius.

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 09.04.2015 um 11:22 schrieb Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: 1. entrance=emergency (3318 occurrences - clear winner as of now) not sure what those mean to say though, in Germany there used to be a campaign Noteingang (emergency entrance), whose name is a play on words (typically you use

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-04-09 at 14:39 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-04-09 2:52 GMT+02:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: Say a mapper tags temperature=42 The options are to interpret this as; a) values would be interpreted as degrees

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Andrew Errington
On 9 April 2015 at 14:19, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: To be clear... IF the mapper enters, say, temperature=46 a) this is taken as 46 °C b) taken as 46 °C, except in regions where Fahrenheit is use then 46 °F (similar to default speeds taken as kmh or mph depending on region) c) an

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Thu, 9 Apr 2015, johnw wrote: My guess: I think the better word would be stairwell - an indoor or outdoor stairway used for accessing different floors, but not part of the floor /building itself. Often times stairwells have access limitations, as opposed to a doorway opening inside to a

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Tod Fitch
On Apr 9, 2015, at 5:43 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: This is just a suggestion in the wiki, everybody using the data will ultimately have to decide on their own how to extrapolate missing information. In Europe I'd probably assume km/h as default, but if I ran

[Tagging] Paintball

2015-04-09 Thread Dave F.
Hi Paintball is a sport/leisure activity where teams run around woodland shooting paint pellets at each other with rifles. There only about 300 tags so I'm guessing there must be a more popular name. Any ideas? Cheers Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 09.04.2015 3:42, Bryce Nesbitt napisał(a): On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: what about exits? Why entrance=exit of course :-). We already have 1793 of it. =} I would rather choose one of these: 1. entrance=emergency (3318

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-09 Thread johnw
My guess: I think the better word would be stairwell - an indoor or outdoor stairway used for accessing different floors, but not part of the floor /building itself. Often times stairwells have access limitations, as opposed to a doorway opening inside to a single floor. This door and it’s

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 09.04.2015 um 09:47 schrieb Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: Given the difficulty of finding the degree symbol on a normal keyboard this depends on the language, on a German keyboard you get it easily. No idea about other languages besides Italian, which is broken also for many

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-04-09 2:52 GMT+02:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: Say a mapper tags temperature=42 The options are to interpret this as; a) values would be interpreted as degrees Celsius. (Similar to the width key default.) b) values would interpreted by region. Most of the world would be Celsius,

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Lukas Sommer
b) values would interpreted by region. Most of the world would be Celsius, USA would be Fahrenheit. (Similar to defaults for speed on roads.) Please note that speed limits are _not_ interpreted by regions. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed states that the unit has to be added

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-09 Thread Colin Smale
a). I have not come across a precedent for region-dependent default units. The wiki pages for Units and maxspeed seem to be quite clear that the default unit is km/h. If they are to be region-dependent we will also need a default default, if you are outside of any region with a defined