[Tagging] life ring or life preserver

2015-07-21 Thread Dave F.
Hi New life preservers have been placed in my city along the river: https://twitter.com/AvonFireRescue/status/623478918729854976 Two questions: 1. Life ring http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dlife_ring seems a little specific out of date. The self inflating jacket appears to

Re: [Tagging] Playground equipment

2015-07-21 Thread John Willis
Im referring to the base platforms that make up the uninteresting part of a large playground piece. The other things are usually attached to it. Maybe it has a ladder or steps on one side, but it is the mundane part - the structure. The slide, rope bridge, zip line, etc are all bolted on the

Re: [Tagging] Playground equipment

2015-07-21 Thread John Willis
On Jul 21, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org wrote: I would prefer to have that in the playground:theme=* tag, thus playground=structure and playground:theme=octopus_mountain|ship|castle|dungeon|etc If they were a one-off, yea, but they are a named playground item here

Re: [Tagging] Disputed area

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 21.07.2015 um 16:12 schrieb Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: My idea is to replace the use of 'inner', 'outer' (and the deprecated 'exclave', and 'enclave') roles in a type=boundary relation with 'defacto' and 'dejure' (or 'claimed') roles. these could make

Re: [Tagging] Disputed area

2015-07-21 Thread Arch Arch
I think it would be better to create separate relations for disputed territories instead of introducing new roles. Your approach would break many existing applications. There's already a proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/DisputedTerritories Am 21.07.2015 um

Re: [Tagging] Playground equipment

2015-07-21 Thread Tom Pfeifer
John Willis wrote on 2015-07-21 02:14: On Jul 21, 2015, at 4:01 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is ok, if these are indeed japan specific, but I'd add a namespace like this: playground=jp:tako_no_yama so if I was tagging it in english it would be

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 20.07.2015 um 23:24 schrieb John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: You also have exceptions such as the Albert Memorial in London, England. can you explain this: is it a memorial or a monument in osm (for you)? cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 20.07.2015 um 23:11 schrieb Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: A memorial object, especially large (one can go inside, walk on or through it) walk on it doesn't sound like a reasonable criterium (you can walk on any pebble for instance). *or high enough (at least a

Re: [Tagging] Disputed area

2015-07-21 Thread Eric Sibert
One thing that perhaps might want to be captured in other disputes is what happens when one country actually occupies and controls the disputed territory. There, there's a de facto border and a claim. Yes, I started with the easy case where not country is occupying the disputed area and both

Re: [Tagging] Playground equipment

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 21.07.2015 um 03:17 schrieb John Willis jo...@mac.com: It is probably not practical to tag the stairs, ladders, platforms, holes, and other access points that make up the center core of large playground structures, why not? It is the way to go for me, if I am to

Re: [Tagging] Multiple values with semicolons (was: Voting - Blood donation 2)

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 20.07.2015 um 22:45 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: That has nothing to do with semicolons. It's a general problem with tag combinations. Say, if you use pub=yes + hotel=yes, you still cannot specify different opening hours. Same thing with amenity=pub +

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 21.07.2015 um 11:20 schrieb Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: A memorial object, especially large (one can go inside, walk on or through it) or high enough (at least a dozen or so meters), built to remember, show respect to a person or group of people or to commemorate an

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 21.07.2015 13:03, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): much better, still 12 meters are a lot, if you think about standing in front of an 8 meters high object, that's already pretty monumental. That's why I added or so. We can also add a practical hint, which is BTW the real meaning and

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread John Eldredge
I would classify it as a monument, given its size. However, its official name is the Albert Memorial. It honors Prince Albert, Queen Victoria's consort. - -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love

Re: [Tagging] Disputed area

2015-07-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Eric Sibert courr...@eric.sibert.fr wrote: Yes, I started with the easy case where not country is occupying the disputed area and both countries agree on the limits of the disputed area. There should be a similar case between USA and Canada for islands near

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 21.07.2015 9:23, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): walk on it doesn't sound like a reasonable criterium (you can walk on any pebble for instance). There may be some monuments that have no holes to enter, but one can go on them with staircases probably. I wouldn't require any

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 20.07.2015 um 23:31 schrieb Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Military_Cemetery,_Warsaw (cemetery with dedication, obelisk and taking a lot of space, and even mentioned as monument in the body of article and is officially called

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 21.07.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: object=memorial (not even historic, because it may be built nowadays - let's get rid of those compulsive categories!) I don't read historic in a way that the object has to be old, but that it is an object that

Re: [Tagging] How to recognize memorial from monument?

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 21.07.2015 um 14:19 schrieb John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: I would classify it as a monument, given its size. me too. However, its official name is the Albert Memorial. It honors Prince Albert, Queen Victoria's consort. Yes, a lot of stuff we tag as