Re: [Tagging] how to care about different seasonal road close?

2017-03-16 Thread yo paseopor
Idea: access:conditional=no @ (winter) access:conditional=no @ (snow) note=check availability access during first trimester ... Salut i mapes yopaseopor ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] how to care about different seasonal road close?

2017-03-16 Thread Hakuch
On 16.03.2017 19:32, Topographe Fou wrote: > I believe we still need one user somewhere to update the data each year... I > suggest to have a scheduled bot which detect obsolete conditions value (based > on actual date) and automatically create a note on the map like "Obsolete > conditional

Re: [Tagging] how to care about different seasonal road close?

2017-03-16 Thread Topographe Fou
I believe we still need one user somewhere to update the data each year... I suggest to have a scheduled bot which detect obsolete conditions value (based on actual date) and automatically create a note on the map like "Obsolete conditional access value, please update the feature" . Otherwise

Re: [Tagging] Is there a way to make tags better?

2017-03-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
What about using an existing solution, Wikibase[1] (of which Wikidata is an example)? Let's call it OSMdata. Wikibase is great because it allows for all kinds of structured data, which makes it future-proof. Some examples of use would be: We could add links to outside databases, for example

Re: [Tagging] how to care about different seasonal road close?

2017-03-16 Thread Hakuch
On 16.03.2017 15:13, Daniel Hofmann wrote: >> OSRM seems to not care for the year and does not route there. > > OSRM does not route you over barriers, which there is on that way: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/73331194#map=18/50.79082/15.32277=D oh I forgot that I put this one there.

Re: [Tagging] how to care about different seasonal road close?

2017-03-16 Thread Daniel Hofmann
> OSRM seems to not care for the year and does not route there. OSRM does not route you over barriers, which there is on that way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/73331194#map=18/50.79082/15.32277=D It has nothing to do with way tags or conditional tags from what I can see. Also check out

[Tagging] how to care about different seasonal road close?

2017-03-16 Thread Hakuch
The road after this point (northwards) is closed in the winter season. https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/917369#map=17/50.79221/15.32156 But like Petr says, its each year another time. I had the bad luck to route through this street with maps.me because it is not tagged for 2017, OSRM seems to

Re: [Tagging] Is there a way to make tags better?

2017-03-16 Thread Imre Samu
>Thoughts? Unified tag system (iD, JOSM) + suggestions + sharing translations + unified metadata == imho : one of key problems, but not so easy to solve. Some related projects : #1. Unified Preset Management System ( Google Summer of Code/2017/Project Ideas )

[Tagging] Proposal for creating working group categories on wiki

2017-03-16 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
Hello, I just want to let you know that I have published the following proposal https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki#Proposal_for_creating_group_ca tegories So if you interested in wiki documentation structure, I would be pleased if you could read it and comment/vote on it. Thank

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-16 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2017-03-16 um 05:13 schrieb Tod Fitch: > The “direction” tag [1] has different uses that seem disjoint to me. > To specify the orientation (compass point or degrees from north) of an object > (adit or cave entrance, etc.). > To specify direction (clockwise/counterclockwise) around a

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-16 Thread Topographe Fou
Hi,The second use should not be encouraged IMHO as it is redundant with the direction of the way.Reguarding the third use, you can use either traffic_signals:direction or direction but the first form will explicitly apply to the traffic_signals while the second may apply to different tags of the

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-16 Thread Zecke
Am 16.03.2017 05:13, schrieb Tod Fitch: It seems to me that the first and the third definitions should be split into separate tags with the second definition deprecated. I agree that this situation is suboptimal. The second meaning has nothing to do with a direction but with a sense of

Re: [Tagging] Is there a way to make tags better?

2017-03-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, there have been many plans/concepts in the past that tried to solve the same problems. I have lost track of the different endeavours and what they wanted to achieve and why they didn't. I remember a talk by David Earl about something tagging-related at a SOTM conference years ago; I